If we are going to spend 100m, I'd rather we do it on Felix or Sancho. If these options don't work out, then maybe we can go for Dybala.
Paulo Dybala
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My concern, from a position of knowing absolutely feck all of what’s going on, is that if he moved to United (struggling Europa League darlings) he’d want to be the main man, and it would cause further dressing room problems.
Also we need 25 goal a season strikers. Has Dybala been that type?
Also we need 25 goal a season strikers. Has Dybala been that type?
Couldn`t agree more. Sancho is the one this team desperately needs on the right side and i feel would improve us the most.
Hence the need for Ole to know what he is getting and whether Dybala will cause any problems off-the-field with demands and such. His best scoring was last season with 26 goals I think, and that has been curtailed this season with Ronaldo's arrival at Juve. My main hope is that this season's failure can spur him to show the world he can be back to his best, especially if preparation for 2022 where he should be seeing himself as one of the main men in the Argentinian attack, what with Messi and Aguero being close to 35 by then. As much as I like Sancho or Felix, I don't think Sancho wants to leave at the moment, while Felix will most likely end up at some other club who is courting him. Seems that Dybala is not as popular now due to his poor season, and that might be good news for us. If Lukaku leaves, and maybe Mata as well, then we will need another left-footed attacker I feel. Dybala is also of a good age and has experience in big games and title chases. An option of Dybala, Rashford, Martial (if he bucks up) and Greenwood seems to me to be a good 4 strikers to rotate among a first choice strike partnership, similar to how we had Cole, Yorke, Teddy and Ole.
Oh no, you're right!!! And the middle... the middle!!!
Lukaku, Sanchez out... Dybala, James in
If dybala comes on at the quoted 86m, I am sure we will get rid of lukaku for about 50-60m! so essentially we will ''only'' spend 26/36m on him. His transfers wont hinder others.
That's surely just rolling the dice again in the blind hope something works.
Could have said this two seasons ago, Rooney, Zlatan out.. Lukaku, Sanchez in, & everyone would have been hyped about it.
I heard from a very good source that his wag is absolutely stunning.
Diamond isnt the way forward. Theres a reason why no top team uses it and the last top team to have any success with it was Milan in the mid 2000's.
Real just won the CL three times in a row using it a lot of the time.
--Ronaldo---Benzema
-------------Isco
^Pretty sure that was their setup ahead of a midfield three in a lot of games, at least last season.
Indeed. And Monaco played 4-4-2 going to a CL final with Mbappe and Falco up front. Same as Atleti. Juve played 3-4-3 with an inverted triangle up top with Mandzukic, Higuain and Dybala as #10/SS
The amount of people obsessed with 4-3-3 and 2 wide men up top is disproportionate to the success of the system, which really hasn't been superior when compared with the other established systems like 3-5-2, 4-4-2 and 4-4-2 diamond.
It really is a matter of which system fits your squad strengths better and to be honest 4-3-3 is just the worse system for United. We have no RW, our technically best LW is a lazy feck who doesn't put in the work required to make the system work (compare Martial work rate with Mane or Sterling) and we have no single striker up top who can bang 20+ goals in a season to cover up the deficiencies of the wingers.
Agreed. It seems that Sancho and Felix are the hype this transfer window.
Would be yet another terrible move so I'm not surprised we're interested. Not a striker/winger and we don't play with a 10. There's a reason Juve are looking to offload him.
This.
Think the system is vital. I'd love to see us go back to 442, diamond may see us less exposed in MF. 433 has never worked for us as we have not had a RW for years and it doesn't seem to have been a priority for any manager as "mata or lingard can do a job there"
I honestly thought when Sanchez came in, he would be put on the right which would balance our attack....but no
I would sing Dybala but not for 100m. Of we are going to play that kind of money it should be for Sancho.
If we sell Lukaku, who do you prefer between Dybala, Richarlison and Icardi?
If we sell Lukaku, who do you prefer between Dybala, Richarlison and Icardi?
He would cost 85m pounds, 100m Euros, which is a fair price nowadays.
Dybala for me. He would suit our style. Icardi is a bit useless outside the penalty box. Richarlison would also fit in, but would cost a bomb, Everton bought him for 40m, and i think they would expect something around 70m, which is far too much.
I think he fits the bill. Center forward that is marketable in south America. As the central striker with Rashford on the side he will excel.
Lukako will be gone. So really 30m difference,unless we Lukaku,/Martial
Lukako will be gone. So really 30m difference,unless we Lukaku,/Martial
Can he work with martial as a main striker and how would that look
Would rather not see a diamond
Would rather not see a diamond
We basically don't have a midfield or a defense. Surely that's where our money should be going first.
We will waste all Summer chasing an impossible target and then panic buy late into the season. Typical Woodward.
We will waste all Summer chasing an impossible target and then panic buy late into the season. Typical Woodward.
I think he's a class player and he's at the right age. Just coming into his peak.
If he's happy to come here then I'd be over the moon.
Hopefully he Is the galatico signing people have talked about and then we fill some other positions with shrewd signings like the guy from Swansea, Alderweireld, Doucoure, Meunier etc.
I can't see him joining though.
If he's happy to come here then I'd be over the moon.
Hopefully he Is the galatico signing people have talked about and then we fill some other positions with shrewd signings like the guy from Swansea, Alderweireld, Doucoure, Meunier etc.
I can't see him joining though.
Guys did you not see dybala against us earlier this year? He is everything Mata should be.
He has that pass and go forward movement and enough pace to seriously pull any defence about.
Go back to 442 with dybala and either rashford of martial up front.
He has that pass and go forward movement and enough pace to seriously pull any defence about.
Go back to 442 with dybala and either rashford of martial up front.
Formations are pretty much useless nowadays. The way the team behaves as a cohesive unit, adjust to the opponent's small details and player instructions is all that matters. A formation is just a kick-off template.
Exactly. The difference between 4-4-2 and 4-2-3-1 is so minor. People always describe Utd as playing 4-4-2 throughout Fergies time but it ignores the way Rooney or Teddy or Cantona would drop off the front into a no10 role.
If we could get Dybala and RW then we have options to play 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 depending on the game and opposition.
https://www.football-italia.net/137973/alexis-dybala-swap-deal
If we end up with Sanchez and Lukaku gone in this window, with Dybala coming in, I will be fecking stunned.
If we end up with Sanchez and Lukaku gone in this window, with Dybala coming in, I will be fecking stunned.
Getting rid of Sanchez and Lukaku and signing Dybala would be a dream, but aside from money why would he want to join this United team
Dybala is technically very good, be coming here to play with elephants 
Game time in his desired position? Being an Adidas athlete, a huge boost to his image?
Sign him up. Can’t see why anyone would say no.
Usually south american players don't do well at United. See Di Maria Veron and Sanchez.
Dybala would be a gamble. He still looks more like a prospect than the finished article.
Dybala would be a gamble. He still looks more like a prospect than the finished article.
I really don’t see him fancy coming to play alongside Lingard, Jones, Young and all those basic players we have. I’m sure Pogba would warm him away.
Basically I see zero chance of this transfer happening.
Basically I see zero chance of this transfer happening.
One reason we get him in could also be to help Pogba to stay - they played well together in Juventus, no?
Especially if Sanchez and Lukaku leave, we would need more attackers, especially lethal ones.
Especially if Sanchez and Lukaku leave, we would need more attackers, especially lethal ones.
But as has been stated, PD is an attacking mid. We could do with more goals from that area but to really challenging( or in our case building a team to challenge) You need out and out goal scorers;Jovic,Piatek,Auba...that kind of player.
Sanchez can feck off, but to let go of Lukaku without a upgrade in scoring is total folly
I can see him playing in a front 2 though, with Martial, Rashford or whoever it is. Jovic will be great but I don't see why he would come to us when so many top teams after sniffing after him, like De Ligt. Piatek just joined Milan too. Can't really think of any out-and-out striker that we can get. Still think a diamond with a front 2 and a AM behind them like Bruno Fernandes will be great. That also means we need our FBs to provide a lot of width, so a new RB is surely needed.
Yeah with that large of a sample size, I don't know why you'd give a South American forward a shot in NW England.
/s
Isn't there a South American scoring for fun just across town too? Can't remember his name..
Given comments he has made in the past about the league and United I get the feeling he wouldn't really want to be here. Strikes me as a luxury player anyway.
what comments are those?
It was a couple of years ago now but he basically said he isn't that interested in playing in England and that La Liga was his dream. Also on United he made a comment/joke about us being 6th during the season Pogba joined us.