poleglass red
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Love his don't give a feck attitude.
Not surprised the tour guide got dropped if he showed up drunk, no-one would be able to make sense out of him!On my first OT tour, the guide told us about him being dropped cos he showed up drunk.
Laughable really. I mean, what players you want then, Paul? If those two are not good enough...His assessment of Sancho and Varane is so dim.
They're right that United have never really been a club known for possession football. Even Fergie's best teams were known more for brilliant counter attacks. And they're also right that we're not wedded to a fixed philosophy in the same way as Barca and Ajax. It's not really about the United way. We don't really have a way.Enjoyed the full interview but his and Gary's takes on United are really bad. Basically said that United shouldn't play out from the back because the OT crowd gets nervous and we're not a possession based club so ETH shouldn't even try to get us to play his way, managers should play the "United way".
I thought the "United way" rubbish had died out years ago but it still lingers. First it was appointing a British manager (Moyes), appointing loads of ex-players as coaches/assistants/technical staff, then appointing United legend as manager, building a "British core" in Maguire/AWB/James. Then it was only a year or so ago that Neville said United should appoint Simeone because he sometimes plays 442 and United are a 442 club
It's irrelevant though isn't it? City weren't a possession football club, are their fans and ex-players sat there complaining that Pep playing out from the back is against tradition and makes them nervous?They're right that United have never really been a club known for possession football. Even Fergie's best teams were known more for brilliant counter attacks. And they're also right that we're not wedded to a fixed philosophy in the same way as Barca and Ajax. It's not really about the United way. We don't really have a way.
You've also got to remember this was likely recorded in the summer.Loved almost all of it, but I really don’t understand the comments on Sancho and Varane. Especially when both are doing so well. Like who does that help? Some of our ex players need to understand their job is now to be a supporter like the rest of us. We’ve all already seen they coach just like most of us would too.
It's recent, they talked about the turnaround we've made post-Brentford where we've abandoned playing out from the back.You've also got to remember this was likely recorded in the summer.
Exactly. It's such an obtuse point for Scholes to make. A club can play like Barca or like Stoke depending upon who the manager is and the players at his disposal. These ex-players need to realize that their era is over. United have not won a title for 10 years, and except for De Gea nobody surivives from that group of players. Ironically, he is one of the current players who stops us from playing a possession style because of his lack of ability on the ball. He will be moved on.It's irrelevant though isn't it? City weren't a possession football club, are their fans and ex-players sat there complaining that Pep playing out from the back is against tradition and makes them nervous?
The only reason to bring it up would be to suggest that because the club isn't known for a possession based philosophy then we shouldn't have a manager try to implement possession based football. It's ridiculous, you just need a manager to implement what they want successfully. It's not "style over substance" football if it works, Pep's teams score more goals than anyone.
It's a difference I have noticed between the ex-players of Liverpool and United. Theirs will defend and big-up their players, almost to a fault. Ours can't help putting the boot in. A middle ground will be much appreciated.Loved almost all of it, but I really don’t understand the comments on Sancho and Varane. Especially when both are doing so well. Like who does that help? Some of our ex players need to understand their job is now to be a supporter like the rest of us. We’ve all already seen they coach just like most of us would too.
Not this shit...That's hilarious, the island question
"Not this shit."
"Shit question shit answer"
Doesn't like music hope he rocks up in a Stormzy music video now.
I appreciate their point. In their mind, playing under SAF, there never was a definitive footballing philosophy. I agree, SAF’s United was a reflection of the man himself: practical application of tactics to fit the opponent and achieve the desired result — a win, usually. Pep will never waver from his philosophy no matter the opponent, and that’s why post-Messi, he’s failed to win a CL.It's irrelevant though isn't it? City weren't a possession football club, are their fans and ex-players sat there complaining that Pep playing out from the back is against tradition and makes them nervous?
The only reason to bring it up would be to suggest that because the club isn't known for a possession based philosophy then we shouldn't have a manager try to implement possession based football. It's ridiculous, you just need a manager to implement what they want successfully. It's not "style over substance" football if it works, Pep's teams score more goals than anyone.
We don't need a club wide footballing philosophy. We just need to allow our manager to implement what they want to do. If they want to play out from the back, you can't say "that's not the United way. The crowd get nervous when you play out from the back, we don't do that here".I appreciate their point. In their mind, playing under SAF, there never was a definitive footballing philosophy. I agree, SAF’s United was a reflection of the man himself: practical application of tactics to fit the opponent and achieve the desired result — a win, usually. Pep will never waver from his philosophy no matter the opponent, and that’s why post-Messi, he’s failed to win a CL.
Why must we have a club wide footballing philosophy? PSG doesn’t, Real, Juventus, Bayern… none of them has the kind of to-the-core philosophy that Ajax and Barca have.