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Jose Mourinho Reveals the Reason Why Man Utd Missed Out on Bayern Signing Renato Sanches
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ByScott Saunders
6 AUG 2016

Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho has revealed the club lost out on the signing of Renato Sanches this summer because he arrived at the club too late.


Bayern Munich won the race to sign the Portuguese wonderkid before Euro 2016, even while United were initially primed to be the ones to sign him within media quarters. United's appointment of Mourinho however dragged on a little too long, and according to the man himself, it meant that Bayern had their chance to steal in.

He told Portuguese channel Sport TV: “I arrived late. I signed in May, we started talking a week before, but completely out of the process. If I had arrived earlier, I’d fight for him.


“Manchester United watched Renato many times and maybe I did it even more. In so much time at home, I watched many Benfica and Portuguese league games, I got to know the boy better with time.


“He’s in a big club, in a league where he’ll certainly be the champion. The club have players of very high level which belong to the structure, a little like Benfica.”


United are instead set to sign Juventus superstar Paul Pogba in a world record deal this weekend, and separate reports from Manchester Evening News claim that Mourinho green-lit a move for Pogba upon arrival while vetoing a move for Miralem Pjanic in the process.


The Bosnia-Herzegovina midfielder signed for Juventus from domestic rivals Roma earlier this summer, and is expected to take Pogba's place in the Italian champions' midfield. He joined for £25m - a snip of the expected £112m sum United will pay for the Frenchman - but Mourinho is reported to have made a decision early on that Pogba was the man he wanted.


Had he been able to get Renato Sanches, however, you wonder if the Pogba deal would ever have taken place.
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Very interesting. Simply because this means that José's first option was also probably Renato. Ryan Giggs also said that we missed out on him and so did he....
U would wonder that if we got the boy, then would they actually have gone for Pogba and the circus along with it. But then again, when we missed out on Shearer we got Cantona, and we missed out on Ronaldinho we got Ronaldo. So probably that's how things pan out
But overall very interesting
 
drmuji said:
Very interesting. Simply because this means that José's first option was also probably Renato. Ryan Giggs also said that we missed out on him and so did he....
U would wonder that if we got the boy, then would they actually have gone for Pogba and the circus along with it. But then again, when we missed out on Shearer we got Cantona, and we missed out on Ronaldinho we got Ronaldo. So probably that's how things pan out
But overall very interesting
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Castles was the first to break the news about Pogba. And in the report, he says Mourinho sees Pogba as the only option after missing out on Sanches. The number of times we scouted Sanches suggest to me,he was our first choice.
 
If missing out on Sanches means that we get Pogba instead then I'm happy we missed out on him.
 
Jose, early on, probably didn't think there was a chance in hell of signing Pogba.

Few proper chats with Ed later, and I'm sure he soon learned just how determined Ed was to spend £100m on someone, anyone :lol:
 
AndyJ1985 said:
If missing out on Sanches means that we get Pogba instead then I'm happy we missed out on him.
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Maybe Jose is preparing territory for a future bid, to see if there's a reaction from the player. The tone of the article is perfect, perhaps geared to see if the player would be interested in a move. Maybe it's Mourinho paying back Rummeniegue for the Schweinsteiger comments.
 
drmuji said:
Very interesting. Simply because this means that José's first option was also probably Renato. Ryan Giggs also said that we missed out on him and so did he....
U would wonder that if we got the boy, then would they actually have gone for Pogba and the circus along with it. But then again, when we missed out on Shearer we got Cantona, and we missed out on Ronaldinho we got Ronaldo. So probably that's how things pan out
But overall very interesting
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Age to ability, Renato is the far superior player. But player development hardly ever follows a predictable curve.
 
midnightmare said:
This discussion on valuation is something I just don't get. People seem to have a massively distorted view of the game thanks to Ronaldo. So, just for the sake of it, let's go slightly further back in the game. Before Ronaldo (let's forget the pesky Kaka fee), Zidane was the most expensive player in the world. He cost Real Madrid GBP 57 Mn at the age of 29. He only ever scored 10 or more league goals in a season once (for Bordeaux in 1992-93). His season-high for goals scored was 12 (across all competitions). Here's the context:

Age: 29
Resale value: 0
Real Madrid income (from Deloitte Money League) in 2000/01: 138 Mn Euros
That figure today stands at 577 Mn Euros

Before Zidane, the record-holder was Figo. He had a nearly identical scoring record to Zidane.

My point is that people have got this massively mistaken idea that clubs pay / should pay for players based on the goal-scoring prowess alone. Fact is, this view has been massively distorted by Ronaldo's (and Messi's) goal-scoring exploits. Take them aside and you'll realise that before these guys, a player who scored 20+ a season was a phenomenon. 25 in the league? That was considered a minor miracle.

When you look at Pogba, he's (at just 23) scoring as many as Zidane was scoring (for the same club) when Madrid made their move. As a % of revenues, the proposed fee is dwarfed by what Madrid paid for both Zidane and Figo.

Even for United (mentioned long time ago on this same thread), fee as % of revenue will not be the highest for Pogba (Rio and Veron will remain higher). Those above him in the table were not goalscorers either.

Hmm... just glad to have got that off my chest. Irritates me no end when rival fans start this rubbish... Maddens me when some of our lot do the same!
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Fantastic points made here.

On a side note pretty impressive that the fee as % of revenue is not as high as Rios or Verons. Mindblowing really.
 
The price for Pogba is totally insane in my view, but United will obviously recoup that fee back in no time anyway.
It's just a shame that by forking out £100M on someone worth somewhere in the region of 45M - 55M tops, it's just going to inflate the market to ridiculous levels.
Obviously these super high prices for players must reelect the lack of quality available.
He hardly ripped up trees in the Euros.
 
midnightmare said:
This discussion on valuation is something I just don't get. People seem to have a massively distorted view of the game thanks to Ronaldo. So, just for the sake of it, let's go slightly further back in the game. Before Ronaldo (let's forget the pesky Kaka fee), Zidane was the most expensive player in the world. He cost Real Madrid GBP 57 Mn at the age of 29. He only ever scored 10 or more league goals in a season once (for Bordeaux in 1992-93). His season-high for goals scored was 12 (across all competitions). Here's the context:

Age: 29
Resale value: 0
Real Madrid income (from Deloitte Money League) in 2000/01: 138 Mn Euros
That figure today stands at 577 Mn Euros

Before Zidane, the record-holder was Figo. He had a nearly identical scoring record to Zidane.

My point is that people have got this massively mistaken idea that clubs pay / should pay for players based on the goal-scoring prowess alone. Fact is, this view has been massively distorted by Ronaldo's (and Messi's) goal-scoring exploits. Take them aside and you'll realise that before these guys, a player who scored 20+ a season was a phenomenon. 25 in the league? That was considered a minor miracle.

When you look at Pogba, he's (at just 23) scoring as many as Zidane was scoring (for the same club) when Madrid made their move. As a % of revenues, the proposed fee is dwarfed by what Madrid paid for both Zidane and Figo.

Even for United (mentioned long time ago on this same thread), fee as % of revenue will not be the highest for Pogba (Rio and Veron will remain higher). Those above him in the table were not goalscorers either.

Hmm... just glad to have got that off my chest. Irritates me no end when rival fans start this rubbish... Maddens me when some of our lot do the same!
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Thanks mate. One of the most meaningful posts I have read on here lately.
 
Considering the money will be made back on shirt sales the price is fine.

If the club charge £10,000 per shirt
 
TheNewEra said:
Considering the money will be made back on shirt sales the price is fine.

If the club charge £10,000 per shirt
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Not on shirt sales but on new sponsorship deals, for sure.

Woodward and his commercial team have been flagging all these deals on the back of a mediocre squad whose marquee player is a spud-faced has-been. Think what they can do with Pogba and Ibrahimovic to trade off.

Two or three big new deals and they've made the Pogba money back.
 
JohnnyKills said:
Not on shirt sales but on new sponsorship deals, for sure.

Woodward and his commercial team have been flagging all these deals on the back of a mediocre squad whose marquee player is a spud-faced has-been. Think what they can do with Pogba and Ibrahimovic to trade off.

Two or three big new deals and they've made the Pogba money back.
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An easy way to recoup the money is charge players £20,000 to park per day at Carringtom.

But hopefully Woodward has more noodle sponsors for next summers transfers.
 
Lynty said:
Age to ability, Renato is the far superior player. But player development hardly ever follows a predictable curve.
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Wait what did i just read :lol:

Far superior to whom exactly? I hope you don't mean superior to Pogba because that would honestly make you look bad due to the sheer ignorance displayed in your post.
 
Sarni said:
Yep I reckon if it gets done, it will be very close to the deadline day.
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You serious? It's been done for a while now. This so called delay that people are up in arms about is nothing more than a player having to physically sign contracts and take his medical.

Also, do not underestimate the influence Adidas have on this. They are lapping up the hype.

Anyhow, I expect come Monday you'll be taking the above post back.
 
Turnbl said:
Indeed. And Clubcall was the inception of all this soap opera nonsense.
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:lol:

I had forgotten about Clubcall. Did you ever use the hotline?

I remember being so tempted when seeing rumours of us signing players like Salas and Kluivert. Thankfully I was wise enough not to as I knew how much trouble I'd be in with my parents when the monthly telephone bill came through.
 
vidic blood & sand said:
The price for Pogba is totally insane in my view, but United will obviously recoup that fee back in no time anyway.
It's just a shame that by forking out £100M on someone worth somewhere in the region of 45M - 55M tops, it's just going to inflate the market to ridiculous levels.
Obviously these super high prices for players must reelect the lack of quality available.
He hardly ripped up trees in the Euros.
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Personal valuation has been tossed around freely around here and other places so; "Someone worth somewhere in the region of 45M-55M tops"....Interested in how you came up with these figures.
 
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