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Paul Pogba | Undergoing Medical | Helping out the Laundry Ladies
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Woody looked really confident in those pictures.
Herrera has not shown anything to suggest he should be a XI player.
Looks like United's deal for Pogba is fecking with a lot of other teams transfer plans. City wanted Bonucci, Arsenal wanted Higuain etc.
Agreed, Lil lezzer face.
How would this affect other teams transfer?
Can you post a link
Wonder if Woody is sleeping next to his Pogba cuddly toy right now?
Juventus won't sell both Bonucci and Pogba, and Arsenal won't be able to attain Higuain?
Hope information explodes about this tomorrow I want it just to end. Becoming so tedious but it's so addictive so I keep coming back.
Neither has Mata. Rooney will start anyway, on merit or not.
Well it's just speculation but i imagine Juve being forced to sell Pogba would make them much less likely to sell Bonucci to City. Arsenal were strongly linked with Higuain but now he's going to Juve because of the money they are receiving for Pogba. And now theres talk of Juve lining up Witsel to replace Pogba when Everton had agreed a fee for him.
Don't know about the Witsel one but i would definitely say the other two possible deals for Bonucci and Higuain were directly affected by United potentially signing Pogba.
I still remember last season, when they showed pictures of Woodward, after he'd signed Morgan, Darmian and Bastian.
I think the headline was something like, "the cat that got the cream".
Bastian was mostly injured. Darmian started well, but then turned to crap. And Morgan always seemed to be invisible in every game he played. In some games I didn't realise that he was even on the pitch!
Pictures of Woodward smiling mean very little I'm afraid.
You shouldn't put (poor performing) players in a starting line-up, just because other players are also performing poorly. That's a recipe for disaster.
Herrera has not been great and I don't quite understand the Herrera love-in. His energy levels are suited to the EPL, but for whatever reason, he hasn't done anything of note in 2 seasons.
Not very comparable signings to the signings we've made and are possibly due to make this summer. Although I do agree, we have to start proving ourselves on the pitch. Another season of shit football and disappointment could be very damaging.
If the toys anything like the player, Woody probably had to pay about £100 for it in Tesco.
Awesome chart. Thanks very much!
Genuinely very interesting looking back. Herrera seems an odd fit but I guess the first attempt at signing him lead to a lot of interest second time round
If he was given the same amount of games as Rooney was the last few years I'm 100% sure he would be outperforming him and many others but he never gets a decent run, anyway this is off topic.
The fake agents/advisors probably helped propel it up
Muppet theory on!
Pogba has a written agreement for a % of the sale as well as a fidelity bonus. Since he's also a Juventus employee there is a matter of social charges too, 4/5m extra. The fidelity bonus would be lost if it's Pogba who initiates the transfer, what he has not done yet.
Marotta would accept to pay this amount or deduct it from the transfer amount in order for United to pay later. Which is what Juventus did with Roma for Pjanic. He had the right for 6m on the 38m of his release clause and he gave it up. Juventus bought him for 32m and he will get the 6m over his salaries at Juventus. Roma doesn't have to pay social charges on top of those 6m, and Juventus can pay it in multiple installments.
To sum up:
Tuttosports says that Marotta received a 110+10 offer he rejected as the sum includes the 20m Raiola and Pogba are supposed to get (and the Italian IRS gets 4m). Furthermore the IRS will get a fine amount based on the profit of this sale. Indeed Pogba is a fully amortized asset in the balance sheet. He will only show as a huge benefit. Any accountant will see that buying Pipita or any other player will not amortize this sale. If the amortization is over 3 years, in order to break even on the balance sheet to avoid further taxes, Juventus has to buy for 300m.
The right scenario is that United handles the fidelity bonus and Pogba is sold "only" for 100m, or 90m with formal bonus to get later.
Sky Italia said that Higuain and Pogba are not correlated. Juventus is supposed to sell if the net amount for Juventus is 110m minimum. Which could mean a 120m offer with Pogba asking to leave and renouncing on the fidelity bonus.
The reason why Raiola needs to talk to Pogba right now maybe?
Anyway Juventus is at 150m buy and 30m sell for Morata. Higuain will cost 15m gross, Pjanic will cost 9m gross, Benatia will cost 6m gross, same for Alves. Pogba, to stay, would also need an increase. So either way this is not sustainable unless the salary structure is fully reviewed or the annual charges of players are annually amortized, e.g. with this sale.
End of the muppet theory!
Pogba has a written agreement for a % of the sale as well as a fidelity bonus. Since he's also a Juventus employee there is a matter of social charges too, 4/5m extra. The fidelity bonus would be lost if it's Pogba who initiates the transfer, what he has not done yet.
Marotta would accept to pay this amount or deduct it from the transfer amount in order for United to pay later. Which is what Juventus did with Roma for Pjanic. He had the right for 6m on the 38m of his release clause and he gave it up. Juventus bought him for 32m and he will get the 6m over his salaries at Juventus. Roma doesn't have to pay social charges on top of those 6m, and Juventus can pay it in multiple installments.
To sum up:
Tuttosports says that Marotta received a 110+10 offer he rejected as the sum includes the 20m Raiola and Pogba are supposed to get (and the Italian IRS gets 4m). Furthermore the IRS will get a fine amount based on the profit of this sale. Indeed Pogba is a fully amortized asset in the balance sheet. He will only show as a huge benefit. Any accountant will see that buying Pipita or any other player will not amortize this sale. If the amortization is over 3 years, in order to break even on the balance sheet to avoid further taxes, Juventus has to buy for 300m.
The right scenario is that United handles the fidelity bonus and Pogba is sold "only" for 100m, or 90m with formal bonus to get later.
Sky Italia said that Higuain and Pogba are not correlated. Juventus is supposed to sell if the net amount for Juventus is 110m minimum. Which could mean a 120m offer with Pogba asking to leave and renouncing on the fidelity bonus.
The reason why Raiola needs to talk to Pogba right now maybe?
Anyway Juventus is at 150m buy and 30m sell for Morata. Higuain will cost 15m gross, Pjanic will cost 9m gross, Benatia will cost 6m gross, same for Alves. Pogba, to stay, would also need an increase. So either way this is not sustainable unless the salary structure is fully reviewed or the annual charges of players are annually amortized, e.g. with this sale.
End of the muppet theory!
Anyway I'm going to be the one that gets the record breaking 25859th post so eat that biatches 
Well that's just a load of tosh. Maybe if Herrera actually had a good game, which he hasn't had in God Knows when, he'd get a run going.
Also very interesting that the threads about players leaving (De Gea and Ronaldo) ended up not happening in those particular years. Still hopeful for Pogba, but rather worryingly a lot of the time, it feels like the longer a saga (and thus thread) goes on, the less likely the transfer is to happen cause the clubs spend so much time stuck regarding negotiations and never actually reach a resolution. Compare Ronaldo in 08 to 09, for example.
I like Herrera but people have a habit of making excuses for his average performances a lot of the time. He played fairly often last year, and was fairly meh overall. Expecting an improvement this season if he's still a regular, and hopefully playing alongside someone like Pogba (if it happens...) will help to improve his performances. Big if, though.
Sorry, I can't. I'm not a full member.
About that Tiempo de Juego interview, there's nothing new, it's pure speculation.
Albert Diez: Matteo, what will happen with Paul Pogba?
Matteo Moretto: The deal between Juventus and Manchester is well advanced. The latest offer from United is 100m + 10m, but that's not enough for Juventus; they want more. But, if you ask me, I believe that he will sign for United. It's matter of time.
The interview is something like that.
I don't want to reply again to this because it's off topic but it clearly isn't tosh, I bet he's had at most a 3 game run maximum and when he did play well he was dropped next game anyway, but hopefully he gets a run under Jose and he will prove to be a very good player, and if he's not then he can go, but I believe he and many others need to be assessed properly under a good manager as I don't believe we should judge any players that have looked shit in the last 3 years(including Wayne) hopefully Jose is that man.
Back on topic, if he does sign would his first game be the first of the new season?
He's been fairly "meh" since his arrival. The definition of a journymen. But for some reason he's only a step away from Messi around here.
Still got shivering from the Vidal saga so didn't get involved with Pogba but now just can't keep away! It's on like donkey kong
page 600
Don't read latest quotes folks their fabricated
Don't read latest quotes folks their fabricated
The interview is real.
I can't post the link, but it's real.
What a roller coaster ride.
True but the way it was worded it sounded like United offered a new bid of 120m.
This is insane
Don't read latest quotes folks their fabricated
Still encouraging.
600 pages! What a landmark, just hope we get it as a positive one and not the great disappointment.
Really looking forward to seeing what. Pog can bring to us.
Bring him home Woody!
Really looking forward to seeing what. Pog can bring to us.
Bring him home Woody!