Well if being priced out means you aren't in then technically that's correct. It's a nice way of dealing with it for those who don't get their man.
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Well if being priced out means you aren't in then technically that's correct. It's a nice way of dealing with it for those who don't get their man.
I think Jones has fallen down the pecking order both because of his performance and his injury record. I seriously doubt Mourinho would've bought Bailey if he thought Smalling and Jones, alongside the likes of CBJ would've been sufficient.
Few people on Twitter saying we're close to reaching agreement with Raiola.
People say anything mate, you've got to find the source!
That means nothing unless it's someone of note tweeting.
Looking for it now.
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for really to see if someone reputable reports it.
I am getting drawn into an off topic debate. So I will reply only once regarding this.
MCFC did have superior "everything".
They were doing well in the league. They went far into the CL. They won the League Cup.
Once Pep was announced, I have no idea what happened, but their form nose dived and they lost ground in the league.
Even though they performed so badly in the 2nd half of the season, they still finished ahead of us.
IMO we finished the season with a worse squad than MCFC. Jose has come in and has immediately rectified this, by buying players in their prime or about to hit their prime.
I certainly don't feel sorry for MCFC. Over the last 3 seasons, they have the best average finishing position, of any team in the EPL (1st, 2nd, 4th).
So we can say when Real Madrid signed Ronaldo they beat every other team in world football to his signature seen as every team would have wanted him? The original post referred to 'real competition'. I would not call it 'real competition' if only one team is willing to meet the selling club's valuation.
@sunama gotcha. Jose definitely made a huge difference, and is also one of the reasons why I'm so confident about this 'saga' than the previous ones. He gets things done.
Who do you think we beat when we originally signed Ronaldo?..The same teams that you say beat everyone....It's swings and round abouts. The Spanish clubs wanted him and others but ultimately we got him. If we had more sun, we might have been able to keep him but it weren't to be.
Let's get back to Pogba!
A lot of posters still seem confused on the 'Raiola fee'. His fee is so 'large' because when Pogba signed on a free for Juve a clause was inserted into the contract which sees Raiola entitled to 20% of any future transfer fee (That's pretty standard in contracts when players are signed on a free, especially if the signing on bonus is low). It's now that time and if we're paying Juve €120m then Raiola is due €24m from Juve not United. However, Juve being the scaly and shrewd negotiators they are, are trying to get United to up their offer so that Raiola's cut doesn't come out of their portion. Which is why Mino posted that tweet earlier today about the deal not being done yet. Juve and United have agreed on what Juve will receive. The only issue left is who pays Mino his cut.
What position does he play?
Agree though I thought United and Juve split the agent fee. In any case, Juve are trying to worm their way out of this like you say. I reckon we should just bite the bullet and pay up (which is probably what we'll end up doing...well, at least most of the agent fee). The chances of us having to deal with penny pinching vermin like Juve any time soon is slim. The chances of us having to pay an agent 20% of a fee any time soon is also slim.
With Pjaca now signed and official Juve can now concentrate on Pogba, which is why I think there have been a lack of updates today.
I assume the process can now speed up.
I assume the process can now speed up.
Please god, no.
Thread has grown by 60 pages since I was on last night but can't see that anything has actually happened?
Nothing has happened. Just us muppets being muppets.
Mainly developments about how much Real and City didn't need him.
It's been a bit like trying to have a secret wank, but consistently getting interrupted and having to start again.....
Starting to feel less confident of this deal getting done !! I feel we are gonna be left standing at the alter, again !! 
When will we learn??
#pessamist
When will we learn??
#pessamist
All gone very quiet...the calm before the storm?
Makes sense...
I was more referencing to some of the arrogant posters who is posting as if it's United right to get any player and angry at Juve for delaying, etc. I have no problems with United as a club. It just ignorant fan base which I guess every club has.
to be fair there has been a storm every night since monday in this place its like a hurricane with 5 eyes
I'm pretty sure Spurs, Chelsea and Barcelona made attempts to sign Martial in the same window we signed him.
I think Arsenal were in for Schneiderlin too last summer before we signed him.
You are right. And instead of blaming Juve we should actually learn from them how to sell players for good money as this is something we have been extremely bad at for decades.
Chelsea wanted martial, its why we acted when we did
Chelsea wanted Shaw as well. Barcelona were after Bailly before we stepped in.
It sounds like it's more to do with Raiola's fee than either club actually stalling the deal out, it looks like we've agreed to pay the fee for Pogba but the issue is just how/who pays Raiola's fee, which probably will have been resolved by the time we hear from Di Marzio later on (usually about 10pm).
Never mentioned United's squad.
City had a better squad when Fergie left and have spent more money than we have since and they still were very average in central defence and midfield. They've spent a lot of money in both departments and have nothing close to a world class player in those positions from those buys.
I heard rumours about Umtiti not being their first choice but wasn't sure how true it was, good to hear we acted fast in that case.
Yes but wouldn't you call that an underachievement? Chelsea finished 10th. What shall we make of their squad?
Yeah, have noticed this too.
No need to worry. The primary reason Vidal didn't happen is Van Gaal's concerns with his knee injury at the time (at least that's what I remember being reported). Had he been fully fit, I'm confident that transfer would've happened. Pogba in this case is fully healthy.
I've question, do you folks think that if and when we sign Poggers, after 18 months he sign a contract extension and Real will simply be priced out by virtue of his fee and wages. I know it's wishful thinking, but isn't that plausible?
I dont know mate but i agree with you though, they had all the advantages over us and almost even signed Pogba. Made me sick when he was linked with them for the past two seasons as i knew we didnt have a chance back then.
It would be a case of Pogba himself wanting to leave IMO, he will let us know and then we will work out a deal that suits us just like we did with Ronnie. The difference is that the fee would be so huge that I think it might be more plausible for them to include a top player or two. Bottom line is that we'll be fine, he'll be super motivated if he signs with us and will help us win trophies again.
I was under the impression that pizza boy owned a % of Pogba, hence the fee as the PL does not allow 3rd party ownership.