they are fuming and it's glorious, transfer ban after this.... Ahh all is right with the worldReal MadridThis isn't what they're used to.
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it's very relevant and was posted
Sorry if this has been posted before.
Just thought it was relevant, especially to those questioning the fee.
If we sign Pogba they will well and truly have the biggest meltdown ever. Real Madrid Meltdown thread - New home kit, Green with envy.Real Madrid
Come on Utd, just get this done, i hate the stench of Madrid hanging over this!.
this is the part I don't get, especially with the fans. they are all oh Riaola is a cnut and pogba is this and that. they got him for nothing after we developed him at man utd. Riaola pissed all over us and shipped him off to Juve even when pogba was thinking of staying. if it wasn't for Riaola pogba would have been a Manchester United player to this day. he's got then a few scuddettos without them having to bribe for it... and they are getting 100 million euros aswel. move on!! Christ
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Its more then just pride.
Imagine there's a luxurious restaurant in town that serve food on premium prices that only top VIPs can afford. Suddenly they start serving wine in cheap glasses, the food isn't that great anymore and when someone complained about the steak being too cooked a 21 year old chef fresh from culinary school shows up. Meanwhile a restaurant close by been renovated gracefully and they had hired the chef which previously worked in the luxurious restaurant. We all know what would happen then don't we?
Real has built a reputation of being the top dogs. Most of the top players end up there and once they are not fashionable anymore they are sold. Sponsors pay premium because they know that the most marketable players tend to play with Real. However what happens when someone manage to outgun them not once but three times? We took ADM from them (they didn't want to pay his salary), they went on skint mode for DDG and now they must go begging around the world asking ridiculous money for James and Morata to buy Pogba. Thats not the type of attitude sponsors spend premium for.
Bringing Jose was the biggest statement for me, It showed finally that the board is determined to get the club back to where we belong. Who doesn't want to play for Jose Mourinhoexcept Varane
Interesting question. Some of the players who've previously played for him at Chelsea and Madrid, if rumour is to be believed.
That refers to the "75% work done" part of Mourinho's quote
Looks like their only signing will be Gomes for 50M.
They're stuck with this squad until Jan transfer window 2018! It's also hard to do deals in Jan so essentially, this is their squad for the next two full seasons!
Jeez how I would like to be able to answer to that
Sorry if this has been posted before.
Just thought it was relevant, especially to those questioning the fee.
Puts it into perspective when people say "Keano only cost £3.75m".
I think that could be the problem. I don't think the Glazers even care about how shite the last 3 years have been, once the finances keep growing they care little for the trophy cabinet growing. They will prob just add another £105m onto their valuation of United when Pogba arrives.
We need to start acting like a global superpower though, our European record is a disgrace quite frankly when you look at teams like Atletico getting right up there with the best on a fraction of our budget.
True, it was a disgraceful transfer.
Haha, you know what I mean though! I've heard it numerous times, as if he was some sort of bargain bin purchase when in reality he was comparatively more expensive to us than Di Maria.
The 75% means we have got 3 out of the 4 players he wanted. What is not clear is whether his "3 to fit the profile" refers to those three or that we have three options for the final player. Either way he is looking for one last player. Hopefully it will be Pogba
Well done lads, proud moment. We'll easily beat Vidal if this drags on into August!
That's what I meant. Older fans consider it like a "Galactico" transfer, he wasn't cheap at all.
Not us. Well, technically, si, but they're trying to screw the agent over. They knew about the 20% and were perfectly happy with it back when they got him. They're getting much more than they imagined from this.
No honour.
Agreed. As much as I don't like Railoa types in football, once he took Pogba to Juve and that he had a deal in place with them he'd get 20% of whatever fee they get in the future for him - if Juve are now trying to renege on it by essentially getting the buying club to cover that - that's just a dick move - smart business but, still a dick move. That said - I don't think Railoa envisioned the amount being talked about now, so hopefully he'll bend a little and am sure in his mind he is already contemplating how to get yet one more big fee in about 4 or 5 years - so it's not like he is going to be hurting.
Mental isn't it? There are plenty of ways to slag United off, some of them more valid than others, but for being small?!
The rate the last 48 hours has gone, we'll pass it in 2/3 days.
how many titles can they buy though?..We can't really expect them to bend over. They are talking the piss but they wouldn't like it if we tapped up their up and coming talent.....I'm sure it'll be resolved soon enough.
That's not a smart move at all. Severing ties like that over 20 million will come back to haunt you.
After listening to him answering the question I agree with the opinions that we've signed 3 of the profiles he gave to the board and there is one left.
Ah sorry, as you were, I thought you were joking about it being a poor value transfer.
I'm pretty sure he meant that we have 3 targets for the remaining position, which makes sense because we weouldn't be pursuing Pogba without a backup plan, no matter how confident we are.
Sorry if this has been posted before.
Just thought it was relevant, especially to those questioning the fee.
This chart is completely relevant and a good start if you need to analyse our transfers. The question isn't necessarily whether we have the means or not. Of course we do, we have plenty of money to burn.
Many posters here are just concerned about us paying way over the fair value for the player. Sure you can say that fair value is what a club asks for him and if you believe that then the discussion ends there.
But if you did a similar comparison of other near world record transfers and the clubs' revenues at the point and also compare the career stage those players were at, you would see that we are paying more than what we should pay for a player like Pogba.
The amount is shocking when you consider the turnovers of the club but it was a great decision.
Well if they get United to pay most of his fee, then it's smart - Railoa still gets paid, so won't be a bridge burnt there and United are not going to be like "well they made us pay Railoa fee, so we won't do any business in the future".
Ok, Bale was POTY and Suarez was a Golden Boot winner, but what about Neymar? Did he achieve more than Pogba before joining Barcelona? Not to mention the tax fraud and that Barca reportedly paid his father 40 mil euros. You want a talent, you'll pay for it.
Raiola is doing what Pogba wants him to do. He is not some evil little leprechaun whispering temptations into the innocent boys ear
If Pogba is happy to stay he wll stay.
Well obviously when I read those posts I thought they were replying to the poster's question about the bolded part. Fair enough if they were commenting on something else. But this is boring, where is Pogba dammit?
Rare are the people who think that Neymar's transfer fee was normal.
Why I feel the need to defend Juve I don't know!
If the agent fee is 20 or 50% of the agreed fee, they still get to determine the size of the pot, that gives them the cut that they feel willing to "agree" to.
If the agent fee is 20 or 50% of the agreed fee, they still get to determine the size of the pot, that gives them the cut that they feel willing to "agree" to.
What a summer
If Pog hurries up and gets to Manchester in this weather, he won't even notice he's left Italia
If Pog hurries up and gets to Manchester in this weather, he won't even notice he's left Italia
I don't actually know what Neymar finally cost Barca. The initial figures were obviously false but last time I read, it said something about 57m Euros being his transfer fee, which in my opinion was fair value for a player of his quality at the time. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was something more but maybe you can find me a source that says they paid any more than that?
I agree with the fact that when you want quality you pay for it. I think Pogba is quality no doubt. But can he step it up to the next level? I hope and I think he can in which case his fee will not matter.
Sorry, but that's streching things too far. We didn't 'take' AdM from them, they had a player they didn't want and we paid them a british record fee for him. Someone who as it turned out didn't even want to play for us. With DDG, we'll never truly know what actually happened. Real had an excellent GK playing for them, by all accounts DDG wanted to join them. We were just really lucky that the transfer fell through. Or else we would have ended last season way lower.
Fingers crossed, Pogba joins us. But if in a couple of years time, Real comes knocking with a then world record bid, are you sure Pogba would say no to them ? I am truly glad that we are flexing our financial muscle and possibly out bidding Real. But it would be naive to start thinking that this is the start of some new world order.
We have the financial muscle to set a new presedence for transfer fees and wages, I think that is what RM is fearing. Sure for the glory, the aura and the fame every player would want to join RM. But if RM pay 250k\week and we pay 350k\week that glory and aura goes straight out the window. Also we must consider that players today consider themselves as a brand and a product. Commercially there is no club that can compete with us, if you want to enhance your brand and product, go to Manchester United.
Also, is it totally unrealistic that following scenario will happen:
Bayern, Barca, RM, Juve tap up a player
Club president of the club of said player realizes that MUFC will pay 20-30% more for said player
Club president offers said player to MUFC
We present bid which is 20-30% higher than the rest, and an insane wage
?
I know, it makes me feel dirty. But this is what football and the world has become. Let's embrace the plasticity.
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I agree with the next level thing. Pogba is Raiola's client after all and my biggest fear is that he'll end up like Balotelli or something. Hope he'll keep his feet on the ground.