If he goes to Madrid, then we just need to pluck Kroos or Modric from them - one will have to be dropped.
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Maybe I didnt explain it well enough because to be fair mate you've just reiterated the same point by saying:
"Is X player that we are interested likely to improve our squad?
Yes : Who cares what player X costs."
I'd love it if we signed Pogba but clearly you don't completely disregard cost just because he'd be an improvement. The main reason being that for the same money you might be able to improve the squad to an even greater degree.
Didn't remember that. Wasn't Ruud injured anyway?
The keys tweet says THINK as in United believe they will get him, not that is actually a done deal. It wouldn't surprise me if this was true given the stories in the press lately. Especially with Castles going big on him being no1 target just the other day
after his injury he chose us
The hang time on the jump in that header was Jordanesque.
Pogba is overrated and isn't worth the money quoted for him at all.
I'm of the school of spending on forwards more than midfielders, madrid and barcelona never felt the need to break records for a midfielder but wouldn't hesitate to do so for the likes of neymar, suarez, bale and ronaldo. Ultimately i believe attacking players make a bigger impact and you could find plenty of capable midfielders that wouldn't cost more than 40m and get the job done.
If i have to choose a galactico signing for the summer it'd be griezmann.
I'm of the school of spending on forwards more than midfielders, madrid and barcelona never felt the need to break records for a midfielder but wouldn't hesitate to do so for the likes of neymar, suarez, bale and ronaldo. Ultimately i believe attacking players make a bigger impact and you could find plenty of capable midfielders that wouldn't cost more than 40m and get the job done.
If i have to choose a galactico signing for the summer it'd be griezmann.
I'd put it down to panic setting in really. Fear and all that jazz. Tactics don't result in passing directly to the opposition.
Where was rooneys so called leadership qualities? Why couldn't he captain the team properly.
Any mate, don't want to derail the Pogba thread! Each to his own
I quite like Keys - still miss him on Sky but the guy is a proper muppet troll on social media
I think this is a bad example, because bale is a superb footballer always a serious goal threat, and was the best in his position in the world for me that season. Can't be said for pogba
There you go. Spent 30mil on Herrera, 25+ mil for Fellaini, 25 mil Schneiderlin, around 15 mil in loss for Di Maria's 1 season, 35+ for Mata if you count him as #10. Not much improvement since SAF one man Carrick midfield.
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Kagawa.
For 100mil? Anyone you want
I choose Pogba.
Zidane?
The only players that are comparable to him are unobtainable.
It might be 100m euros anyway. Doesn't what currency
People keep saying he'll take over Kroos, who is the better player, so I'd take Kroos
What position does he actually play? I know midfield obviously but more specifically.
I've been watching him all tournament and can't figure it out.
I've been watching him all tournament and can't figure it out.
After Martial I've stopped worrying about the money we pay for players. That seemed over the top but he's worth every penny and will be here for years. If we can get a top player that will improve us then there is no point haggling over the fee, just get it done.
It not being a certainty to work can be applied to all transfer strategies. Probably an even bigger risk to spend big on just one player. See Di Maria in your example.
I think he works better in a 3 man midfield. He would be the box to box.
EDIT: Strange, cause I thought José plays 4231
He prefers to play left of a three, realistically if we sign him we'll have to go 4-3-3
it could be argued that tactically he is suspect. But technically, there isn't many better around. Absolutely brilliant.
Absolutely brilliant today. I don't care if he costs 100 million if it helps us get back to the top and begin winning no one will think twice.
The risk is pretty much the same. Di Maria value loss is huge and easy noticeable, but the other cheaper signings may take a more percentage of loss, and collectively bigger loss if/when we move them on.
Di Maria may/may not be better for LVG's 2nd season. May or may not save us the Mkhitaryan money if he stays until Mourinho's takeover, and finally redeem himself. We don't know for sure. So may & might pose the pretty much same risk.
If Mourinho rated Pogba and the price is affordable, then just it's good.
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Yeah I thought box to box, it's just he seemed to be more defensive today than in other games.
So I guess if we were in for him it may mean Schneiderlin could be off?
If we sign him, we should play 433 as you mentioned. Unfortunately, Rooney would be the CM next to him.
Pogba would be great with a more dynamic CM with explosive acceleration, someone like Renato Sanches or Saul.
I guess the CDM would be someone between Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Blind and Fosu-Mensah.
Where have I said signing a midfielder would be foolish? With that money you could buy 2 or 3 top players. For that money you should be getting a Messi / Neymar / Bale / Ronaldo level talent, Pogba isn't at that level in my opinion
He's a beast, Griezmann looks like a ball boy next to him
He's not a holding player, he's played there tonight due to Kante being suspended so no I don't think Morgan would be off given he imo is a holding/defensive player. Would expect (again if we got him) a midfield 3 of Morgan + Rooney + Pogba with Carrick + Basti + Herrera the backups
Hopefully Schneiderlin, Martial and Evra are tapping him up.
But both have spent big on midfielders. Real broke the world transfer record to sign Zidane, likewise Figo. More recently they spent an absolute arm and a leg on James, and close to 40M on Modric. Barca meanwhile spent 36M taking Fabregas back, which in todays money and market is more like 60M+.
Forwards should always be more expensive, that I do agree on. They do make a bigger impact. I also agree that Pogba is overrated. But at the end of the day, a player is worth what a club will pay. I have no issue us spending 80M on him because he has massive sell-on value, is exactly what we need, and is hugely marketable. So from tboth a sporting and fiscal sense, it makes a lot of sense.
Mourinho's actually quite versatile, played a diamond with Porto, 4-3-3 in his first Chelsea run, played a diamond at Inter, but switched to 4-2-3-1 in the treble season that in effect played more like a 3-4-1-2, then mostly stuck with 4-2-3-1 with Madrid and his 2nd Chelsea run.
evra?
Think Yaya Toure. Too defensively weak to play as a deep lying playmaker not dynamic enought to play as a CAM.
He could work in Mou's 4-2-3-1 if paired with a defensively sound DM. Some rag reported that Mou plans to deploy a 4-3-3 with Pogba and Rooney as the CM's. He'd work best in that IMO.
Wouldn't he want he to stay with him at Juve.
Showed today why he arguably the best cm in the world
I think real back then were obsessed about getting all the top tier magical stars in the world of football more than building a functioning team, figo, beckham, zidane and ronaldo, the galactico era, and that's not what we're trying to build here.
Also you can't compare zidane with pogba, at the time zidane was fully established and at his peak.
I haven't seen an awful lot of him as I only really watch Premier League regularly. Serious question - is he currently better than Yaya Toure at his peak?