Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

TsuWave said:
so we are at the point were we’re ignoring reliable journalists that reported a face to face meeting with Guardiola and contract offer
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Yes ... there are many "reliable" journalists who are more than happy to obfuscate what really happened in order to build/maintain relationships. Many "reliable" journalists are also wrong at times.

TsuWave said:
United had a lucrative offer on the table for him for months by the way, if he’d wanted he also could have renewed.
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Stupid decision by a weak United leadership. Barca have a cash problem but won't consider him on a free. Madrid have been seeking out free signings like Rudiger and Alaba, but would rather spend 100million on Tchouameni than Pogba. Chelsea are losing players but won't go near him. Bayern/Milan/Inter don't see value in him. All he is left with is PSG (is there even real interest? ) or Juventus (on their way down, average players, coach on his way down).
 
Nero said:
Exactly. When he was running down his contract he would have been expecting the world's top teams to be lining up for him. None of them care.
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They’d probably care a lot more if his injury record wasn’t ever worsening and his mobility declining.
 
ilrm said:
Yes ... there are many "reliable" journalists who are more than happy to obfuscate what really happened in order to build/maintain relationships. Many "reliable" journalists are also wrong at times.


Stupid decision by a weak United leadership. Barca have a cash problem but won't consider him on a free. Madrid have been seeking out free signings like Rudiger and Alaba, but would rather spend 100million on Tchouameni than Pogba. Chelsea are losing players but won't go near him. Bayern/Milan/Inter don't see value in him. All he is left with is PSG (is there even real interest? ) or Juventus (on their way down, average players, coach on his way down).
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Yes, a reliable journalist made up a face to face meeting with Guardiola and contract offer to maintain relationship with Pogba a supposed finished player - with total disregard for a relationship with Pep, arguably the game’s best manager and City a growing powerhouse. Makes sense.

Reliable journalist or Ilrm from redcafe? What a conundrum

Stupid decision or not, is not what’s being discussed. The offer was there, he had options, he chose not to.

Real spoke to Pogba. They didn’t offer a contract. Alaba is a defender, what’s that got to do with Pogba? Tchouameni and Pogba have different qualities, one is young and one of the best tacklers in Europe, the other is 29 and a player with offensive attributes - why would Real move for Tchouameni be an indictment on Pogba when they have little to no overlap in terms of what they offer? What? You have a weird understanding of football

Barca are doing crowdfunding because they are broke. Chelsea has a bunch of midfielders, why would they add crazy wages for a position they have more than covered? Milan and Inter aren’t a better proposition than Juve, and can they even carry Pogba’s wages? More importantly, that’s where he wants to go. Why are you asking about if there’s a PSG offer you already said you don’t care about reliable reports and you rather believe your couch potato fiction.

Be at peace
 
TsuWave said:
Yes, a reliable journalist made up a face to face ....
..... Why are you asking about if there’s a PSG offer you already said you don’t care about reliable reports and you rather believe your couch potato fiction.
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That's a lot of words when you could have just said "no big team is interested in Pogba so he is going back to a struggling Juve."
The way he (and his former agent) has treated United is an absolute disgrace. A fitting end to his career would be Pogba stagnating at a struggling Juve, becoming a yesterday's man while United climb up with ETH and the new management.
 
ilrm said:
Imagine going back to a much declined Juventus, with your tail between your legs ... No Real/Barca/PSG/Munich ... Also I don't believe he declined City out of respect for United ... sounds like PR to improve the "image" after he realized that nobody cares that he left.
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He's lucky Juventus want him to being with, although I don't know how much he will cost them. Always thought he was overrated in terms of how much Manchester United were asking for him and paying him, I'm very glad he didn't come here even when Zidane wanted him. He has also himself to play as he didn't do a lot to justify the price tag and get more interest by other clubs, no wonder they never sold him.
 
Lee565 said:
He remind me a little of podolski, looked promising talent but ultimately inconsistent at club level and injury prone but looked better on the international scene and being a part of winning major national tournaments
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Podolski was never an outstanding talent, though (relatively speaking).

He just happened to be a good fit for the national team.

Pogba was/is an outstanding talent - he had/has what I would call extreme qualities.

The odd thing is - you could say - that if he goes down in history mainly as a player who shined on the international scene, then...well, the fact is that so far he hasn't really stood out for France as a player using his extreme qualities/natural talent to any truly impressive degree.

For me, his best performances for France has involved him playing fairly conservatively - not as a player showcasing his full (attacking - that is where he ultimately stands out) potential.
 
ilrm said:
8m euros net annually, 4 year contract. Juve burning more money.
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Mate… you are taking all this waaaay too seriously… and without any interest in the facts or the player’s reasons. Do you really think Real will be better off by spending €80m on a kid? Each to their own.
 
Bepi said:
Do you really think Real will be better off by spending €80m on a kid?
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Yes ... I'd rather risk money on a kid who is on his way up rather than spend a penny on Eden Hazard Pt II.
 
The other centre mids must be worried at the idea of Pogba coming.

Imagine having to do the dirty work in a team with Pogba, Messi, Neymar and Mbappe.
 
ilrm said:
Yes ... there are many "reliable" journalists who are more than happy to obfuscate what really happened in order to build/maintain relationships. Many "reliable" journalists are also wrong at times.


Stupid decision by a weak United leadership. Barca have a cash problem but won't consider him on a free. Madrid have been seeking out free signings like Rudiger and Alaba, but would rather spend 100million on Tchouameni than Pogba. Chelsea are losing players but won't go near him. Bayern/Milan/Inter don't see value in him. All he is left with is PSG (is there even real interest? ) or Juventus (on their way down, average players, coach on his way down).
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You’re mad if you don’t think that every single club on the planet is trying to sign Pogba.
 
Rolaholic said:


They'll finally win the UCL if Mbappe hires Zidane
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The workrate on that team is going to be dogshit. Atleast they'll make a couple of Pogba -> Mbappe highlight reels by the end of the season.
 
Bepi said:
Mate… you are taking all this waaaay too seriously… and without any interest in the facts or the player’s reasons. Do you really think Real will be better off by spending €80m on a kid? Each to their own.
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Tchouaméni will be one of the best holding mids for the next 10-12 years, whilst all Pogba will do is pretend he's still an elite player for the next 2-3 years in a weak league. If Juve wants to compete for Champions Leagues, Pogba shouldn't be part of that rebuild.

I don't believe for a second that any teams were in for him other than Juve and PSG. City and RM are way smarter than that.
 
Him ending up in Italy tells you everything, he's not good enough for a top team, that's it.
 
Beans said:
Him ending up in Italy tells you everything, he's not good enough for a top team, that's it.
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And Mbappé in the 5th best league means he is not good enough either. How ridiculous is this argumentation?
 
Beans said:
Him ending up in Italy tells you everything, he's not good enough for a top team, that's it.
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Nope. Reliable sources confirmed he was approached by City and Guardiola held personal talks with him but he turned it down due to fears over the backlash. And PSG offered him more money than what he is supposedly said to have accepted from Juve. Do people think they can just come on this site and lie without getting caught up on it?
 
Not Juventus' biggest fan but calling them the 4th best team in Italy based on where they finished last year is a bit unfair.
 
Wonder how he will do in that midfield. Won’t have Vidal and Pirlo helping him out anymore.
 
Beans said:
Him ending up in Italy tells you everything, he's not good enough for a top team, that's it.
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He rejected City and is Juventus a step down from United? They had a poor season as they're going through a transition but I think they will be back at the top of Serie A again soon.

I get the frustration with Pogba but we don't need to sit here and pretend like he isn't a great talent that top clubs wouldn't take just to make us feel better. His United career is what it is.
 
JPRouve said:
He had neither in 15/16.
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He had Marchisio & Khedira. That's still a level above what they have now (Locatelli, Rabiot and Arthur/Zakaria). It is a tougher challenge for him now, both in Serie A and in the CL, compared to what he had with him last time.
 
Tom Van Persie said:
He rejected City and is Juventus a step down from United? They had a poor season as they're going through a transition but I think they will be back at the top of Serie A again soon.

I get the frustration with Pogba but we don't need to sit here and pretend like he isn't a great talent that top clubs wouldn't take just to make us feel better. His United career is what it is.
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I don't believe he rejected City to play in the wilderness, this is a guy who had Railoa as an agent. Unless it was a tiny contact and they wanted him to start from the bench.
 
Canagel said:
Nope. Reliable sources confirmed he was approached by City and Guardiola held personal talks with him but he turned it down due to fears over the backlash. And PSG offered him more money than what he is supposedly said to have accepted from Juve. Do people think they can just come on this site and lie without getting caught up on it?
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He's a very strange fellow if he turned down City and PSG to play for Juve, in Italy where nothing he does will matter outside the CL. I personally find that not credible, but maybe I'm wrong.

Going to PSG shows enough lack of initiate, 95% of top players want to play in England, Spain or Germany. But going to Juve is even worse.
 
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