It’s delusional to put it kindly. At least he’s consistent.
@Rozay gave this up ages ago because he’s a very balanced poster and I’m sure he can see this season has been a disaster for Pogba.
@Jeppers7 has gone all in and he doesn’t seem to care that he’s
and it’s got to the point where he’s either flat out lying to himself or a total wum.
Im not sure what you think has changed in the last week that usurps the last five years and would suddenly make me change my opinion?
Just for clarity I will share my opinion for the tenth time and you can run around every thread on the forum screaming about Pogba and my posts like a jilted teenager.
Pogba, for me, has been one of a handful of players in his time that makes buying my season ticket, rearranging work to go to games etc worthwhile because in a lot of games he actually shows the ability required to play for a top club.
In my opinion he has been one of the best players at the club every season in this time, some would say he should be etc blah, I would simply say he has been, one of. He’s certainly not been great, brilliant, amazing, consistent (the buzzword) but no one has and I’ve already gone to lengths in this thread to show that Pogba has been a lot better than most paint him to have been and as consistently good as anyone.
If a lot of posters felt that was wrong in December, there weren’t many of them shouting and making threads about me then, when presented with facts. There were a few of us last season who were emphasising how quickly Pogba’s good form would get forgotten in the narrative as soon as he had a bad game, again there was a chance to challenge it, it was a running joke for months. A lot of mouthy posters now were very quiet then.
Your posting this last week is endemic of Pogba’s entire time here.
Look at Saturday’s game for example. You’ve got Telles doing something utterly ridiculous on the first goal, then rashly giving away a penalty. You’ve got McT wandering about not closing down, players running off him then giving it the big un in the BT Sport interview after the game, you’ve got Bruno putting in the worst performance in living memory for me in a United shirt, he literally cost us the game along with the ref.
Now posters will say yeah they get criticised too, but not in the same way, not at all.
@Rozay has posted a great summary of why, in my opinion. It’s not only fans to be fair. The media have a very weird narrative around Pogba. I’ve never seen a half-time analysis either before or since, focus on a player getting blocked off on a corner (Chelsea away) the entire half-time analysis criticising a player getting blocked off defending a corner. That wouldn’t even get a mention we’re it not Pogba. Or a commentator (Neville) go to vehemently criticise a player for losing his man on a goal (West Ham away last season) then realise it wasn’t Pogba, it was an actual defender who lost his man……and just shut up. Or be accused of treason ! For taking a penalty, when he was the penalty taker. Bruno lost the ball on the edge of his own box on Saturday (then missed a penalty), just like he did against Leeds this season, Leicester last season amongst others, he doesn’t get highlighted on MOTD etc, rightly so to be fair it happens in football especially when you’re having a mare. Pogba though gets criticised and critiqued, singled out in the media if he loses the ball on halfway (Wolves) or in the opponent’s half (Palace) if he’s surrounded and gets tackled (World Cup) on halfway even when in all of these games he’s been outstanding.
That to me isn’t fair, it’s unjustified criticism and way over the top. It’s led to this narrative where Pogba is blamed for everything and for the state of United.
Yourself as a poster I think you need to accept that others hold a different view, they just don’t post it in every single thread on the Caf like you do.
It is weird that some people feel so strongly about anyone who has not jumped in on Pogba, who have appreciated his performances and the player he is. I’ve given reasons and presented facts at times. Posters like yourself and
@Pogue Mahone have got to ridiculous lengths, like criticising Pogba when he’s played well, but results have been poor. You’ve both been in here trying to tie results to Pogba regardless of his performance. To be fair you’d only need to look at Pogue’s posts the season Pogba was top scorer, assister and top of every metric chart for us. Tens of posts trying to discredit the same metrics he will use to justify another player. It’s utter hypocrisy.
@Pogue Mahone was in another thread this weekend saying he darent go into the Bruno thread after the Arsenal game, and while I get that, to some extent, I’m less likely to be rushing into this thread when Pogba has a mare because you know that the usual suspects will be hammering him….BUT if you’re going to rush in here anytime Pogba plays badly….don’t disappear for months when he plays well. Or if you’re going to come in here even when Pogba plays well and criticise him for the rest of the team’s performance then don’t stay out of Bruno’s thread for months when he’s playing shite and return when he’s had a good game to tell everyone he’s our best player.
I’ve defended Pogba on the basis of fairness. I’ll go into McT thread when he has a good game and give credit. Or Fred’s. There’s been games this season where Bruno has been getting criticised but I’ve felt he played well, and I’ve said so. The opposite also, like Atalanta at home. There’s a large bunch of strange individuals like yourself,
@Nou_Camp99 and many more that have singled Pogba out in a vacuum. That will criticise him massively for something they wouldn’t think twice of doing for another player.
Saturdays game is such a blatant example, imagine if Pogba had missed the penalty doing THAT stupid run up (all about him, selfish, doesn’t care etc) moaned at his team mates all game for his own mistakes (toxic) then lost the ball on the edge of his box doing something stupid (get the f*ck out of my club etc) this thread would be in meltdown. Just like it has been with irrational comments when the guy is injured. Your post on this is ridiculous, I’m confident in saying you have posted that he’s faked injuries or alluded to it, criticised his recovery when it’s common practice etc….the fecking guy had to post videos of himself pre and post op. That isn’t a handful of fans that cause that.
So one last time I will explain it in simple terms :-
Our fans have treated Pogba unfairly, massively so, in my opinion….then expect him to value them.
Pogba, performance wise over his five years I’d give him a 5.5 overall, would be a bit higher if not for the ‘fake’ injuries, with the caveat that he’s been worth watching. He’d be in my top five players in that time. I wouldn’t want us to sign him on an extension at this point, his legs are going and would be an actual problem for us in the coming years.
This is a long post, hopefully for me and for all the irrational posters that make threads about me for not hating a player obsessively, it will be my last in here.