[Nou_Camp99]

I was being sarcastic towards that poster who has history about talking about "support" and calling out us who wanted Ole out.
But in Pogba's case, i really don't know what are booos about.

Yeah what did OGS ever do for us to warrant getting a bit more of break from us fans eh?

You really are something pal. Of course us fans were more forgiving on Ole. He's a legend who gave me the best night of my life.

I'd rather have Ole than Ralf too.

 

[Jeppers7]

Nothing to do with the fact he’s our most expensive player ever and he’s either shite or injured most of the time.

The only player you’ve commented on today both in match day thread and post match. Same every week.

 

[Forevergiggs1]

Personally I don't mind players wanting to leave if they have a reason for it, I don't expect or demand unconditional will to remain at United. The only time where it bothered me was with Ronaldo because we were at the top and he decided to join what I viewed as a lesser team, that one hurt my feelings. But that doesn't apply to Pogba, Di Maria, Lukaku or De Gea or any current players because as someone that has invested a lot of time following United, I know that the management team messed up and I don't expect players that have the ability to join better run clubs to just roll with it, I'm actually a lot more suspiscious of players that wouldn't think about leaving and are happy to just collect paychecks.

I almost agree with everything you say, including Ronaldo but for me once a player has decided to leave, or at least having made public statements saying that they want to leave then they should go. Not hang on, see if there's something better out there and when they realise there's not, stay at the club until the next time, and then the next. It points to a player using United as a stepping stone until something better comes along which in my mind is not a player fully committed to the club which in turn means I don't want him here. Whether or not that player is Pogba, Rashford or Shaw I don't differentiate. They can all look for different clubs if they feel they're being mistreated or feel they're too important to put the hard graft in to get us back to the top.

SAF never carried passengers in his squads no matter their reputation. Every single player under him was 100% committed to making us successful. We need to get back to those roots because at the minute we have far too many players coasting which will take us nowhere.

 

[Ali Dia]

The only player you’ve commented on today both in match day thread and post match. Same every week.

He is or was our second highest earner and largest transfer ever and he’s done absolutely nothing in ages. Criticism goes with the territory. He’s just not as good as you seem to think but you’re always willing to double down no matter what ever evidence there is to the contrary.

 

[Jeppers7]

By far he wasn’t the worst performing player today but as usual he’s on the pitch so he’s to blame regardless. Amazing that he’s stayed so long here with the way he’s treated. Both parties would’ve been better moving on 18 months ago.

 

[hobbers]

Amazing that he’s stayed so long here with the way he’s treated.

Probably something to do with the 290k a week he's paid to get massages in the treatment room.

 

[AndySmith1990]

By far he wasn’t the worst performing player today but as usual he’s on the pitch so he’s to blame regardless. Amazing that he’s stayed so long here with the way he’s treated. Both parties would’ve been better moving on 18 months ago.

The poor lamb having to endure such a hard life for all these years at United.

 

[SirScholes]

By far he wasn’t the worst performing player today but as usual he’s on the pitch so he’s to blame regardless. Amazing that he’s stayed so long here with the way he’s treated. Both parties would’ve been better moving on 18 months ago.

Slow hand clap? Great

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

By far he wasn’t the worst performing player today but as usual he’s on the pitch so he’s to blame regardless. Amazing that he’s stayed so long here with the way he’s treated. Both parties would’ve been better moving on 18 months ago.

Yeah it's so good of him to grace us with his presence.

We'll really miss his lethargic half arsed displays and constant injuries.

 

[SeanyC]

Great player when he wants to be and that was never when putting on a United shirt! SAF was right about him back then and is still right today. Get rid, good riddance

 

[PSV]

By far he wasn’t the worst performing player today but as usual he’s on the pitch so he’s to blame regardless. Amazing that he’s stayed so long here with the way he’s treated. Both parties would’ve been better moving on 18 months ago.

He's earning the same regardless of whether he's stinking up the place or not so I doubt he minds.

 

[Jeppers7]

He's earning the same regardless of whether he's stinking up the place or not so I doubt he minds.

Everyone is stinking up the place. EVERYONE. One player takes the blame. He’s a fantastic footballer who’s spent five years in a poorly run football club that’s fanbase is toxic towards him.

So regardless of wage I’m surprised he didn’t leave at the end of Oles first season. Would’ve been better for him and the fanbase.

 

[JPRouve]

I almost agree with everything you say, including Ronaldo but for me once a player has decided to leave, or at least having made public statements saying that they want to leave then they should go. Not hang on, see if there's something better out there and when they realise there's not, stay at the club until the next time, and then the next. It points to a player using United as a stepping stone until something better comes along which in my mind is not a player fully committed to the club which in turn means I don't want him here. Whether or not that player is Pogba, Rashford or Shaw I don't differentiate. They can all look for different clubs if they feel they're being mistreated or feel they're too important to put the hard graft in to get us back to the top.

SAF never carried passengers in his squads no matter their reputation. Every single player under him was 100% committed to making us successful. We need to get back to those roots because at the minute we have far too many players coasting which will take us nowhere.

I agree with the bolded part, I don't want Pogba to stay and have been on the sell Pogba camp for a long time, in fact the first reason was that I expected/feared that he was injury prone after his ankle injury. But me wanting a player out doesn't mean that I have any bad feelings or disrespect for the player.
As for the other point that you make I strongly disagree with the one sided idea that a player has to be fully committed to the club when the club isn't himself as fully committed to players and the project they sold them because United didn't sold to any of our players this constant mismanagement and competing for top 4.

I'm particularly bothered by this double personality that many fans have where they are happy to criticize the club and judge it relatively fairly but are up in arms when people that are actually impacted by the club's management are making the same conclusions. It's even worse when most of you criticize players for not caring and being happy to collect a pay check and are also unhappy if they communicate publicly in a positive/negative way or if they decide to leave this mismanagement behind. And I have that issue when people do it with any player, it's not just Pogba.

Pogba should leave and should have left a while ago. But from my point of view it was something that needed to happen for the good of both parties, Pogba isn't a good fit and the club isn't in the right state.

 

[Jeppers7]

Slow hand clap? Great

Did anyone else get booed ?

 

[SirScholes]

Did anyone else get booed ?

Any other player saying he wants out ?

your defence is awful, he isn’t paid the insane amount he is to simply “not be the worst” he is paid to be the best on the pitch man

 

[Andycoleno9]

Why he is booed anyway? Because he doesn't do silly tackles and kisses the badge?

 

[Jeppers7]

Any other player saying he wants out ?

Yet you’re surprised ?

 

[Slevs]

Why he is booed anyway? Because he doesn't do silly tackles and kisses the badge?

Mate, most of the time its him doing the silly tackles and looking gob-smacked an obvious foul has been called

 

[Jeppers7]

He is or was our second highest earner and largest transfer ever and he’s done absolutely nothing in ages. Criticism goes with the territory. He’s just not as good as you seem to think but you’re always willing to double down no matter what ever evidence there is to the contrary.

There were players today far worse….as always you have only comments for one player. You’re not on your own but it highlights why there is such a toxic atmosphere around Pogba and why everyone would have been better off had he left two seasons ago. You’re obsessed with the man it’s bizarre. If he plays well and we don’t win it’s his fault. So god help him if he doesn’t play well. Literally 90% of your comments in any thread feature Pogba. Like I said you’re not on your own.

Pogba’s gone. I wish him well. Will be nice for the club not to have a scapegoat and perhaps to finally have a proper manager next season.

 

[Andycoleno9]

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Mate, most of the time its him doing the silly tackles and looking gob-smacked an obvious foul has been called

Again, he is not even close to be labelled among our worst players. But yet, only him is regulary booed. We have some players who give 1/10 regulary but they are never booed. So why is Pogba booed exactly?

 

[RedPed]

There were players today far worse….as always you have only comments for one player. You’re not on your own but it highlights why there is such a toxic atmosphere around Pogba and why everyone would have been better off had he left two seasons ago. You’re obsessed with the man it’s bizarre. If he plays well and we don’t win it’s his fault. So god help him if he doesn’t play well. Literally 90% of your comments in any thread feature Pogba. Like I said you’re not on your own.

Pogba’s gone. I wish him well. Will be nice for the club not to have a scapegoat and perhaps to finally have a proper manager next season.

I'll just leave that there.

 

[Jeppers7]

I'll just leave that there.

We all know why

 

[hobbers]

Morons on twitter do love a nice agenda conspiracy dont they.

 

[Slevs]

[
Again, he is not even close to be labelled among our worst players. But yet, only him is regulary booed. We have some players who give 1/10 regulary but they are never booed. So why is Pogba booed exactly?

If you don't know why by now you're either blind/deaf or don't want to accept the reality. He has been a massive failure while allowing his agent/brother/family/friends to talk shit about the club whatever chance they get. Hopefully in 6 games time he leaves and we never see him in a red shirt again.

 

[PSV]

I think you guys might be on to something.

It is much easier (and much more logical) to show your disgust with someone heading for the door rather than someone you know you're likely stuck with for years to come.

 

[MackRobinson]

I'll just leave that there.

Not surprising at all. Pogba has been the scapegoat ever since Mourinho threw him under the bus to mask his managerial failures. It’s a shame United fans took the bait and haven’t let go.

 

[clarkydaz]

Maguire was booed for England and mocked off the pitch being subbed at OT.

 

[hobbers]

Maguire was booed for England and mocked off the pitch being subbed at OT.

Ah but "UK", whoever that is, stood up and in some unexplained way denounced that horrible treatment. But they haven't done that for Pogba, apparently. So it makes you think, doesn't it... or does it? Huh.

 

[Fanta Stick]

Looking at Pogba's twitter profile.

You wouldn't know what club he played for. No mention of club in bio and not wearing club colours but is "proud to represent @adidasfootball".

The account doesn't follow any current United players.

I know his twitter is probably run by a PR team but they must be receiving some direction from him?

 

[Sayros]

* Yet he's been the subject of ridicule and richly deserved criticism (and plenty of abuse) on social media and in stadiums (see: Atletico sub, England boos).

Pogba has been shit for years, a sicknote for over half of the time, criticises the club at every opportunity and has been angling for a move away for the last 4 summer transfer windows.

Hope that helped make some sense of it all.

The bolded part aren't true at all though, so no...doesn't help make sense.

I do hope Pogba leaves, because I think he's a scapegoat for far too much at this club. It's a mess with or without him in it, and he deserves better for his last big contract, and United fans deserve better than to see a guy who's not working out to be paid ridiculous sums for another 5 years. I think it's rightfully outrageous that United would offer him 500K/week with what he's given, and I hope that's not true because it would be just another sign of how far-gone United's decision-makers have been.

Whatever you folks want to believe, Pogba is not a disruptor. He has an agent that's a pain in the ass for any club to deal with, which is also what makes him very successful with certain players, and a brother that speaks with absolutely zero input from Paul. He's been constantly misquoted when he gave his interviews in French to have as much of a click-bait article as possible, I remember one particularly egregious instance where they completely changed his quote and cut out half of it to make it seemed he was intent on leaving United when his actual quote was the complete opposite.

I have no issues with criticizing Pogba for his performances, because they are night and day compared to what he gives for France for a multitude of reasons that go beyond his individual abilities, but I have a problem when people make up narratives to tarnish his character and make him out to be some kind of bad influence, unprofessional, or a diva. He is none of those things.

 

[swred]

I was at the game today.
Pogba was not the worst player on the pitch.
I thought the booing was a bit harsh, but, he doesn’t look like he puts any effort in, he just looks like he’s jogging around and having a kick about with his mates.
His attitude just comes across as he doesn’t give a damn whether they win or lose.

 

[Carl]

Why he is booed anyway? Because he doesn't do silly tackles and kisses the badge?

Because pashun.

 

[90 + 5min]

I'll just leave that there.

I asked you once. What are you implying? That it is some racial thing?

 

[sullydnl]

Didn't think he particularly deserved boos today.

In general though he's been a flop and it'll be good for all parties when he moves on in the summer.

 

[Forevergiggs1]

I agree with the bolded part, I don't want Pogba to stay and have been on the sell Pogba camp for a long time, in fact the first reason was that I expected/feared that he was injury prone after his ankle injury. But me wanting a player out doesn't mean that I have any bad feelings or disrespect for the player.
As for the other point that you make I strongly disagree with the one sided idea that a player has to be fully committed to the club when the club isn't himself as fully committed to players and the project they sold them because United didn't sold to any of our players this constant mismanagement and competing for top 4.

I'm particularly bothered by this double personality that many fans have where they are happy to criticize the club and judge it relatively fairly but are up in arms when people that are actually impacted by the club's management are making the same conclusions. It's even worse when most of you criticize players for not caring and being happy to collect a pay check and are also unhappy if they communicate publicly in a positive/negative way or if they decide to leave this mismanagement behind. And I have that issue when people do it with any player, it's not just Pogba.

Pogba should leave and should have left a while ago. But from my point of view it was something that needed to happen for the good of both parties, Pogba isn't a good fit and the club isn't in the right state.

To he fair it sounds like the difference between us is you want Pogba sold because other than his injuries it's what's best for him whereas I want Pogba sold because it's best for the club. The Pogba experiment didn't work but even though we have one of the worst run clubs in top echelon football I don't think you can say the club weren't committed considering the money spent and players brought in. Was it badly spent? Obviously but the intent was always there to try and get us back to the top. A lot of players may have failed trying to get us there but so has Pogba so in this not all the blame can be put at the clubs door.

You say you're particularly bothered by fans that criticize players that communicate publicly in a positive/ negative way or if they decide to leave the club behind due to mismanagement but to the best of my knowledge Pogba is the only one that's said he wants to leave on various occasions without actually leaving which does make him more of a moving target. Is it right or wrong? Who's to say. Us fans are a fickle bunch. Maybe if he didn't have such a toxic agent things would be different with him but he does so they're not. Calling the club out when his client isn't exactly pulling up trees himself maybe isn't the best way to adhere himself to the fans. Rooney tried it and was slaughtered. Why should Pogba be treated any differently.

 

[RedPed]

I asked you once. What are you implying? That it is some racial thing?

Let me ask you, why have you asked if it's a racial thing?

 

[90 + 5min]

Let me ask you, why have you asked if it's a racial thing?

Because it is second time you post something that can been seen as you think criticism of him is because of skin colour. So I ask you once again. Third time. Do you imply that it has anything to do with racism?

 

[RedPed]

Because it is second time you post something that can been seen as you think criticism of him is because of skin colour. So I ask you once again. Third time. Do you imply that it has anything to do with racism?

That tweet wasn't posted by me. I'll leave you to form your own opinion as to whether skin colour ever comes into play when players are castigated for poor performances, conceding goals, missing penalties etc., etc.

 

[Cassidy]

To he fair it sounds like the difference between us is you want Pogba sold because other than his injuries it's what's best for him whereas I want Pogba sold because it's best for the club. The Pogba experiment didn't work but even though we have one of the worst run clubs in top echelon football I don't think you can say the club weren't committed considering the money spent and players brought in. Was it badly spent? Obviously but the intent was always there to try and get us back to the top. A lot of players may have failed trying to get us there but so has Pogba so in this not all the blame can be put at the clubs door.

You say you're particularly bothered by fans that criticize players that communicate publicly in a positive/ negative way or if they decide to leave the club behind due to mismanagement but to the best of my knowledge Pogba is the only one that's said he wants to leave on various occasions without actually leaving which does make him more of a moving target. Is it right or wrong? Who's to say. Us fans are a fickle bunch. Maybe if he didn't have such a toxic agent things would be different with him but he does so they're not. Calling the club out when his client isn't exactly pulling up trees himself maybe isn't the best way to adhere himself to the fans. Rooney tried it and was slaughtered. Why should Pogba be treated any differently.

If you read the poster said it would be best for both parties. Meaning the club too

 

[JPRouve]

To he fair it sounds like the difference between us is you want Pogba sold because other than his injuries it's what's best for him whereas I want Pogba sold because it's best for the club. The Pogba experiment didn't work but even though we have one of the worst run clubs in top echelon football I don't think you can say the club weren't committed considering the money spent and players brought in. Was it badly spent? Obviously but the intent was always there to try and get us back to the top. A lot of players may have failed trying to get us there but so has Pogba so in this not all the blame can be put at the clubs door.

You say you're particularly bothered by fans that criticize players that communicate publicly in a positive/ negative way or if they decide to leave the club behind due to mismanagement but to the best of my knowledge Pogba is the only one that's said he wants to leave on various occasions without actually leaving which does make him more of a moving target. Is it right or wrong? Who's to say. Us fans are a fickle bunch. Maybe if he didn't have such a toxic agent things would be different with him but he does so they're not. Calling the club out when his client isn't exactly pulling up trees himself maybe isn't the best way to adhere himself to the fans. Rooney tried it and was slaughtered. Why should Pogba be treated any differently.

Not really, I didn't want the club to sign him because I knew that he wasn't a good fit, overhyped and overpriced, my opinion never changed and when he started getting injured I wanted him out because it was beneficial to the club to get something out of him before it was too late. Now I also realized that it was also a good thing for the player, he was unlikely to reach his personal goals and the fan base had already turned on him.

Also clubs including United aren't committed to players taht don't serve their interests, clubs conditionally committed when you are not useful to them they try to sell you.