You're forgetting that fat shit Jon Moss was in charge. All he needs is the slightest hint of an excuse.
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You're forgetting that fat shit Jon Moss was in charge. All he needs is the slightest hint of an excuse.
I'm grateful to finally see another talisman growing in Manchester United team.
Long it may last!
Long it may last!
His discipline after the talking to by the ref was fantastic. (I have a feeling Mike Dean sends him off )
Great to see him do his stuff. And get the goal and assists he deserves. His numbers last season were a let down but he still had a lot of good games. Now hes adding to it (and it helps when others finish of his chances).
Fun to watch him play football.
)Great to see him do his stuff. And get the goal and assists he deserves. His numbers last season were a let down but he still had a lot of good games. Now hes adding to it (and it helps when others finish of his chances).
Fun to watch him play football.
Was good today. Had a poor 5 minutes or so, but bounced straight back and was very composed.
One thing he did really well was calm down and make sure he didn't get sent off. Could of easily happened that early in the game.
Grew into the game and I loved his forward forays, especially down the flanks. Really making use of the freedom Matic affords him. Beautiful chip for the goal, and the header that led to Bailly scoring was very good too.
Double figures this season.
You got to give him credit for that.
If he's free to go forward, he should be able to net more goals. We have to figure out the exact lineup that allows him do so throughout the game.
He's a fecking incredible player, still can't believe we managed to wrestle him back from Juventus. You just know he's going to tear up the league.
Genuinely I think that's unfair in a lot of ways. You don't need any more information than you already have to recognise that you set unrealistic expectations for him, which neither past legends nor recent megastars were able to live upto.
You've tried the deflect the issue with a totally irrelevant essay on Roy Keane, whom I never mentioned in any of my posts? You've been studying Denald Bigly too much. ... see how I did that
You keep telling me that Pogba is an exceptional talent. At the beginning of the season, it was because he did not have a pre season. Then it was because he was settling in. It then became that he had to play no 10 in a midfield 3. Then we were told that that it was no 8 and the team has to be moulded around him. Now we are being told he he a 'young un and still learning' and we'll have to wait til some other mythical stage in the future. (Im sure I forgot out some other 'explanations' this season).
You describe him as 'an exceptional talent who still has a lot to learn'. Ive not seen him learn anything this season. If anything he has regressed with an arrogant opinion of his own talent, trying thing she cant achieve and costing us in the process.
As I wrote before, if Pogba is an exceptional talent, big deal, we have paid for that privilege. It doesn't take a very astute or brave analysis of football to hope that world record signing is a world class player! I'm deeply concerned we have a bought a show pony, or at the very least a player who is costing us dearly this season.
You mentioned him less than a week ago and your OTT posts still reek of the same conscious ignorance. It's not a tangent it's another way of making a real point.The evidence is right there for you that wasn't the case. At the same age Keane individually bottled it in a cup semi and bottled it against the champions, and was part of a team that bottled the league and the cup. All in the space of 6 months. The standards you're setting for him are absurd because you're comparing him against a mythical version of your hero(es).
It's exactly like this statement from months ago:It's totally wrong. The benchmark you've set is your own, based on wrong information and false perceptions. Yet when that was pointed out to you in very plain terms, you just ignored it because it doesn't suit your narrative or agenda:Let's not forget that a month into Bale's time at Madrid, you were saying this...
...and many agreed. Bale wasn't a superstar from the off. Most players aren't. The fact you keep expecting them to be and they aren't is your issue not theirs.
Whether he goes on to consistently dominate big games will dictate whether he goes on to being perhaps our best midfielder ever, with the exception of the eternal Bobby Charlton, but you don't need to see anything more to recognise that his remerkable array of talents define him as an exceptional talent.
How many United players in our illustrious history can you think of that could do all of those things to such a high level? At most you could argue a handful. I would argue there is only one in the last half-century. Incisive through balls and raking passes, extreme bursts and constant running, delicate chips and effortless long rangers, bullet headers and beautiful chest control, intelligent interceptions and hard tackles, clever flicks and dazzling dribbles...
Come on Sammsky, surely it's time to acknowledge there's something there?
Thought he was very good in the first half, unlike what some have said. Along with Rashford he was our only threat in the first half. It was his dangerous crosses that led to the corner that we scored from. He had a big influence on our play and was the heart beat of the team. Very good performance.
I was never in doubt regarding Pogba eventually showing his abilities in a desirable manner. He's not there yet to showcase all his talents and notch up motm awards game after game, but even last season with his inconsistency he was the only reliable player to make things happen on the pitch, our lone creative spark. The beautiful thing is that he's still going to improve and I'm quite sure that he'll get into double digits in assists as well as goals charts.
He's a no. 10 made in heaven and I don't get why aren't we setting the team up for him. These 2 highscoring games are awesome evidence of that. We've dropped ineffectual Mata on the right wing 2 times in 75' minute, brought in Fellaini to move Pogba further up the field. The result is shining bright like sun, in combined time of 30+ minutes we've scored 5 goals and Paul himself got on the scoresheet twice. He shouldn't be burdened with too many tasks playing between attack and defense, instead we ought to make him a focal point of our attack. Permanently, not temporarily.
He's a no. 10 made in heaven and I don't get why aren't we setting the team up for him. These 2 highscoring games are awesome evidence of that. We've dropped ineffectual Mata on the right wing 2 times in 75' minute, brought in Fellaini to move Pogba further up the field. The result is shining bright like sun, in combined time of 30+ minutes we've scored 5 goals and Paul himself got on the scoresheet twice. He shouldn't be burdened with too many tasks playing between attack and defense, instead we ought to make him a focal point of our attack. Permanently, not temporarily.
My point exactly from the last post.
Making Pogba busy with defensive work is warranted against the top teams of England/Europe, but not on a regular basis. He should be free to do what he can do best.
He was frustrating at times today, but he's hit the bar again, which Bailly has simply touched in. Then he's made a great run with a neat finish to score the third.
He's a brilliant player, and I'd rather put up with irregular inconsistencies, than regular, consistently boring sideways and backward ten yard passes any day.
He's a brilliant player, and I'd rather put up with irregular inconsistencies, than regular, consistently boring sideways and backward ten yard passes any day.
This.
His best season was in 15-16 with Juventus and he played with Mandzukic ( or Morata ) and Dybala in front of him and 2 midfielders behind him.
He never played in a midfield 2 in four season with Juventus... and he never played with an AM in front of him too.. he was the AM !
Does his header for the first goal not count as an assist?
Yes.
Less flair, more clicincal. Delighted with his through ball for martial goal. Learning from his Real Madrid mistakes
This 100% for me the best player in the league.
Stats look great thus far, 2 goals 2 assists in 3.
Yes. It makes it 2 assists.
My bad, for some reason I thought that he had an assist last week, but he didn't.
The goal was pure sex
Sensational finish.
Grew into the game after a slow start.
Grew into the game after a slow start.
The goal was pure sex
It was the impudent finish of a world class striker.
I'm just glad there wasn't a card happy referee officiating the match otherwise he could well have seen red. He showed good maturity and despite all the dancing etc. he is quite a level headed guy.
Starting to get into the groove
I completely agree. We need to have Matic and Herrera (or Fellani) behind him and the front three in front of him. The past two games hes come alive when hes not played so deep.
That said i think against teams like Swansea and West Ham playing him further back allows us to have an extra attacker and in tight games that can be key. Basically, in tougher games play him in a three. Against the lower down teams play him in a two. I do feel the more he plays with Matic the more in sync he'll be and wont sit as deep.
He finished last season strongly too in terms of productivity. 4 goals and 2 assists in his last 5 official games for us if I'm not mistaken. Good to see him putting up the numbers his performances merited.
I said he'd score a lot this season. Last season he almost scored every single game without fail, most of them very good clear cut chances too, his finishing was just poor with some bad luck with the woodwork. It showed he was getting in the positions to score though basically every game.
His finishing was never going to be as bad this season, his final tally could surprise a few I reckon, he might not quite reach Lampard level of productivity but I think he has the game that could see him score a silly amount of goals for a central midfielder.
His finishing was never going to be as bad this season, his final tally could surprise a few I reckon, he might not quite reach Lampard level of productivity but I think he has the game that could see him score a silly amount of goals for a central midfielder.
His goal reminded me of this:
(First game of 2013/14 Moyes season)
(First game of 2013/14 Moyes season)
Good FF returns so far this season.
Great that he shut down the Swansea fans after they had given him stick and did it with such a class goal.
He really benefits from Ibrahimovic's departure. With Lukaku not dropping so deep, he has a lot more room to operate in and it's benefiting him greatly.
I hope United win something major before the inevitable strong Real Madrid rumours start up. Hopefully that isn't a serious worry for a few seasons yet.
I've heard quite a few people talk about reserving judgement on how good he actually is until he does it against top teams. I think it's important to put this into perspective. Pogba isn't going to dominate top teams on his own, very few players can. The whole team, or at least 7-8 players have to have good days to be able to. For me he showed enough last season to convince me he's world class, Pogba was certainly not the problem last season. If we grow as a team, Pogba will soon have plenty of great games vs top teams imo.
There are moments in every single game he plays, where he does some outrageous skill move to free himself up, some impossible pass, or even just holding off two-three professional athletes by using his insane physique, that leaves me flabbergasted. I used to miss 70% or more of our games in LVGs last season due to boredom. Not that I didn't have it on, just that I struggled with paying attention to the game. Now I don't want to miss a second, and these are some important reasons why, I'm simply entertained.
There are moments in every single game he plays, where he does some outrageous skill move to free himself up, some impossible pass, or even just holding off two-three professional athletes by using his insane physique, that leaves me flabbergasted. I used to miss 70% or more of our games in LVGs last season due to boredom. Not that I didn't have it on, just that I struggled with paying attention to the game. Now I don't want to miss a second, and these are some important reasons why, I'm simply entertained.
Yes, it does.
90m today doesn't buy him. I'm expecting 15+ goals in all competitions this year and the better the players around him, the better he is.
No, it doesn't. The keeper saved Pogba's attempt, i.e. the ball touched one of the opposition's players, so it will not be recorded as an assist.
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