M Bison
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Played very well and scored a cracker but he did overplay a little at times. Sometimes he needs to give it rather than take an extra touch.
Played very well and scored a cracker but he did overplay a little at times. Sometimes he needs to give it rather than take an extra touch.
I doubt that he is a dud. He has remarkable skills and Mourinho needs to find out create a system that makes him shine. Else we have another Veron on our hands. I simply didn't think he was as good as he should have been last season.I think he's incredibly overrated by fans on this board due to a fear of letting opposition fans think we bought a dud.
He clearly has talent, but his decision making still isn't quite there. He produces moments of quality rather than minutes of sheer domination. Basically a winger in a midfield position. He produced 3 or 4 moments of quality today. Real quality. And that's often enough to sway the masses.
He was good, but not 9/10 good. Hart should have done better for his goal. Rashford robbed him of an assist or two.
I doubt that he is a dud. He has remarkable skills and Mourinho needs to find out create a system that makes him shine. Else we have another Veron on our hands. I simply didn't think he was as good as he should have been last season.
But with a full year under his belt, Matic and Carrick to do his running and genuine power and pace ahead of him, I'm hopeful he will justify his price tag and status.
Promising start to the season but as I said before Pogba's real job is to win us the big games so will reserve judgement until we've had a few of those.
Playing next to Matic will help him loads. I think you can see the mutual respect already. In a midfield two, we will still be suspect against better teams, as West Ham were really bad today so it will be interesting to see how he develops.
Imagine having Martial, Rashford, Miki and Lukaku on the pitch at the same time :/
I feel you, man. He has that Cantona's or Ibra's aura; that smugness where he knows that he's the shit. Where everyone has to bow to his greatness.He is a livewire isn't he?
the way he beats west ham's players, is like watching an adult bullying the school kids.
very, very quick feet, sees the opponent moves, bam! the ball is moved so quick, they have no chance.
more of that please pogba,
who cares if you're doing too much,
there are no other midfielder like him, one of a kind.
football is about entertainment! and oh boy you are the entertainment.
I feel you, man. He has that Cantona's or Ibra's aura; that smugness where he knows that he's the shit. Where everyone has to bow to his greatness.
The reason why i want us to play 3 in midfield, with Pogba released of defensive duty. So he can do whatever the feck he wants to do on the pitch. He's a very special player, and deserves that kind of treatment.
Agreed. I think that's when Jose will drop Mata/Mkhi and play Herrera next to Matic, and move Pogba further forward which should help us immensely, especially with players like Martial/Mkhi/Rashford/Lukaku on the counter.Playing next to Matic will help him loads. I think you can see the mutual respect already. In a midfield two, we will still be suspect against better teams, as West Ham were really bad today so it will be interesting to see how he develops.
Imagine having Martial, Rashford, Miki and Lukaku on the pitch at the same time :/
Agreed. He's actually much better when he has a more disciplined role. He can still do the showboaty stuff but he plays more like an actual midfielder instead of trying to do everything himself. I much prefer him in a 2 man midfield.No he doesn't. He had that job against Madrid and was bloody awful. He played box to box against West Ham and was much better. Much as everyone loves this idea of him being a no 10, he's just not good at it.
Matic is playing with a lot of freedom and looks like he's really enjoying playing for us. I seriously underestimated how good an all round game he has.He'd be boring as feck if he changed it, I love that you don't know what Pogba is gonna do; that's part of what makes him great. Matic can be the guy to "do the right thing" every time.
Yeh. That's a fair point. Although last season, he also had average games when playing in midfield two. The logic said that having less defensive duty would maximize his work on attack. But then the closer to the final third, the more crowded it is, thus less room and time for tricks. I still think his skillset and vision are suited for more advance midfield role.No he doesn't. He had that job against Madrid and was bloody awful. He played box to box against West Ham and was much better. Much as everyone loves this idea of him being a no 10, he's just not good at it.
At home against shoddy opposition he'll be fine in a midfield 2; it's when the top 6 arrive that the logical option is Herrera next to Matic, but then you sacrifice an attacking threat to accommodate him as an advanced player.
The simple solution is to bench him sometimes, but his price tag makes that difficult for Mourinho.
His goal was pretty central but fair play to him for capitalising on Hart's kryptonite low to his left side. Good 7/10 performance from him.
Yh I thought he should have easily dealt with that goal tbf, not knocking Pog's game - he was class - but that wouldn't have got past Dave.
Then you are expecting every goal keeper to be world class like De Gea. Haha.
Credit to Pogba, normally a player would dribble closer into the goal, Joe hart must have to move towards pogba to prevent him coming closer, that opens up the left side of his goal, Pogba understood this, he opened his body, curl it to the left side of Joe Hart.
Accurate or not, it doesn't matter, because the keeper has no chance to dive as he moves to the other side. Any goal keeper will find it difficult to save that.
That's how much ability he got. Our pogba. Love him
Then you are expecting every goal keeper to be world class like De Gea. Haha.
Credit to Pogba, normally a player would dribble closer into the goal, Joe hart must have to move towards pogba to prevent him coming closer, that opens up the left side of his goal, Pogba understood this, he opened his body, curl it to the left side of Joe Hart.
Accurate or not, it doesn't matter, because the keeper has no chance to dive as he moves to the other side. Any goal keeper will find it difficult to save that.
That's how much ability he got. Our pogba. Love him
You're giving him too much credit here. Every time he tries to place a long range curling shot off his right foot he goes to that side. It wasn't even one of his better efforts, many of which still get saved by any half decent keeper. It was just Joe Hart being Joe Hart.
A number of our goals wouldn't have got past De Gea, he's much better in 1 on 1 situations than Hart. Hart's positioning is poor and he commits too early, while De Gea stands his ground, keeps both hands low and feet apart, and makes himself look big while forcing the attacker to commit first. Martial and Lukaku would both have had more trouble scoring on him. We aren't going to be facing keepers of De Gea's class in the PL so I wouldn't knock Pogba's goal on that basis.Yh I thought he should have easily dealt with that goal tbf, not knocking Pog's game - he was class - but that wouldn't have got past Dave.
You're giving him too much credit here. Every time he tries to place a long range curling shot off his right foot he goes to that side. It wasn't even one of his better efforts, many of which still get saved by any half decent keeper. It was just Joe Hart being Joe Hart.
A number of our goals wouldn't have got past De Gea, he's much better in 1 on 1 situations than Hart. Hart's positioning is poor and he commits too early, while De Gea stands his ground, keeps both hands low and feet apart, and makes himself look big while forcing the attacker to commit first. Martial and Lukaku would both have had more trouble scoring on him. We aren't going to be facing keepers of De Gea's class in the PL so I wouldn't knock Pogba's goal on that basis.
Aye, I just wanted to talk about how shit Hart is in comparison to De Gea actually . I'll never forget his first season here where every week the pundits would talk about Hart's latest 'uncharacteristic mistake' and explain how he was actually much better than our Dave.Not knocking it, just saying a good GK (not just DDG) would have stopped it. I don't care how we score, whether pea rollers or 40 yard screamers tbh.
Aye, I just wanted to talk about how shit Hart is in comparison to De Gea actually . I'll never forget his first season here where every week the pundits would talk about Hart's latest 'uncharacteristic mistake' and explain how he was actually much better than our Dave.