Its the people that got rubbed the wrong way that have an issue, so is he supposed to die and not live if he has a poor game?
So you went from him being a potential captain, to sell him in a few months.... right
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Its the people that got rubbed the wrong way that have an issue, so is he supposed to die and not live if he has a poor game?
So you went from him being a potential captain, to sell him in a few months.... right
Have you seen how he defends players like Fellaini when they turn in shite performances?
I have no issue with Jose commenting on Pogba form, just be consistent for 1, and 2 don't keep going back to it. No reason to even go back to it after the international break, he has has said enough already. Lets see what Pogba does in the next game first!
Yes but actually I started this conversation based on what Bryon Robson said, which again had nothing to do with anything on the pitch. Also if you think your opinion of his maturity hasn't been influenced by the media reporting of his lifestyle I think you are likely to be mistaken.
I already spoke about Fellaini on the last page.
He needs to start today! The perfect game to get the momentum going again.
Let’s be honest the experiment with Mctominay and/Fellaini needs to stop. If Pogba is fit he starts!
Let’s be honest the experiment with Mctominay and/Fellaini needs to stop. If Pogba is fit he starts!
I full agree with this, my main point is that keep the criticism to training and the pitch.
I'm sure many things influence my opinion but by far the most significant change in my opinion about Pogba was the Spurs game and the "Pogba has to play on the left of the midfield 3 in a 4-3-3" nonsense that followed it. With Jose going public having to defend himself and the subsequent changes to the formation it was extremely damaging.
Pogba's off field activities don't bother me. In fact, having such a charismatic and popular figure can be a great thing if he is a positive influence within the squad as a leader. I really thought he was getting there and showing increased maturity but since the Sanchez signing, he has really let himself down.
Did Pogba come out and say any of that?
I think he hasn't played well, but I'm not sure it shows lack of maturity IMO unless you can point to where the player himself has either criticised the manager or openly stated he needs to play in a certain position.
After the Everton game he certainly implied it.
The lack of maturity was his lack of effort, sitting on the ground throwing a tantrum when he lost the ball, not bothering to track runners and giving the impression that he was having a sulk in such a huge game.
Before that game he played 90 minutes every game whenever he was available and he has had some absolute stinkers. Jose subbing him off in that game was a massive deal.
See I have no issue with this type of criticism. Also I was one of the ones saying he should get subbed that game.
However I feel like we're in a situation now where like your last paragraph history is being re-written. I mean he was actually in very good form this season IMO up until very recently.
So yes he does need to up his game, and do better especially when things don't go his way, thats one thing.
Does he need to not live his normal off the pitch life when he is going through a bad spell? No he doesn't. Its very lazy when people decide that posting on social media is affecting his game, the same people usually on social media themselves forget that footballers are humans and football is work and they have a life outside of work.
Also Jose himself needs to also take some blame for the fact most of our players have suffered a big dip in form since Sanchez has come in, its not only Pogba and something isn't right there.
Your last sentence is spot on.
Not sure what about my last paragraph is re-writing history. I didn't doubt he started the season very well. But it is completely true that he was one of Jose's ever presents who would play every minute of every game, no matter how he was performing.
I agree with you about his private life. Who gives a monkeys what he does off the pitch. Dancing with his mum shouldn't stop him performing on the pitch.
As for Jose, there are many who are far too quick to blame him for everything that goes wrong at the club. Saying that, when he states only 2 players are showing the necessary level of commitment, that doesn't reflect well on him.
This is balanced.
Yeah people have an issue about overpaid grown man who don't have a simple reasoning to lay low a few weeks, what a scandal. Nobody said he should die nor not live his life, but he can have a bit of modesty to not invite such reactions, he is old enough to know that.
Your point? I said I had him as a potential captain before the start of the season, but his post injury collapse changed my mind, he is no leader nor indispensable. We played the biggest matches without him in the last two years, if he kicks up a fuss and it is a possibility, he can leave. Forgive us mare mortals to not attach to individuals as you.And people say football fans are reactionary/fickle
He better feckin step up. He is here to dominate midfield. If he struggles do even try doing that he needs to be replaced as soon as possible. End of feckin story.
Watch King pogba step up and roast the swans tonight!
Brandishing wealth and music videos was in relation to Memphis...when Memphis was playing for the reserves, he went against club advice and came to the reserve game in his rolls royce. Januzaj and Periera were also reported to have attitude problems when they were in the reserves, they would showboat by trying to score from as many corners as possible.
Pogba is far more active than most footballers when it comes to off the pitch stuff. He is almost always doing some sort of promo or ad campaign. That has nothing to do with his race and everything to do with his performance. He is as active as Neymar, Ronaldo and Messi while being a fraction of the player.
I've been his biggest critic this season. But I've realised one very important thing after his goal in Internationals.
He's 24 years old and lost his father during the season. That plays such a big part in your life and work regardless of what you do. Personally I've decided to judge him from next season because of this.
He's 24 years old and lost his father during the season. That plays such a big part in your life and work regardless of what you do. Personally I've decided to judge him from next season because of this.
His interviews were all about him, he was acting like he made it in top football already and the difference between him and other top players was just that he was in bad form. He wasn't worried too much.
As for his pictures:
Just to be clear, I am not criticising him for his styling a d I never did that, I couldn't care less. But blaming it on racism is utterly stupid.
Nobody complained about his hair or instagram while he was playing well.
Suddenly he's had a few poor games and it's a sin and must be stopped. Completely ridiculous.
He just needs to find his better form, whether it's him personally or the coach we'll find out I guess.
Suddenly he's had a few poor games and it's a sin and must be stopped. Completely ridiculous.
He just needs to find his better form, whether it's him personally or the coach we'll find out I guess.
Need a big performance from him today
Come on Pogba, let's see a goal like the one for France
Come on Pogba, let's see a goal like the one for France
@Amar__ Well he is now a consistent starter for the Dutch national team and is an important player for a decent Lyon side. He has "made it". He did not make it at United but, he can still have a pretty good career. And I do not see anything wrong with his outfits.
His style has always been to save face 1st and pass the buck. Did he admit that the sevilla result could have gone better for United? I recall him hyping Sevilla up, downplaying United, so it was almost expected that we lost this tie.
Perhaps they get more criticism because they can offer more, much, much more. The latter 3 could be some of the best in the league in their positions. The previous 3 won't. He is trying to push the latter on a few gears. I get it. They can and should be more. Martial could be taking it to every opponent but he just drifts in and out of games. Pogba too, just does moments but never runs things. I don't know what the hell Shaw is doing, getting out gunned by a 30 odd year old winger. These lads need to kick on and become something fast. As Tywin Lannnister once said "I need you to become the man you were meant to be, not next year, not tomorrow, NOW."
I quite like Pogba's new blue hair. My favourite was his blonde mohawk at Juventus. A close second was the blue and red streak he had a few months ago.
There is plenty wrong with his outfits, granted that it has nothing to do with football.
He was comparing himself with players like Ronaldo, etc., he is nowhere near close that level.
If you think that kind of styling is regular then I can't make you change your mind.
Certainly can't fail to spot him for a pass with that on his head.
Exactly, I don't think he' given himself enough time to mourn properly. I think his father passed away right before the EL final at the end of last season.
Man Utd 2:0 Swansea
Decent today. He had better than this in his locker imo but that's definitely better than his previous games.
Some of his long bombs were pretty bad though.
Some of his long bombs were pretty bad though.
Bit better today.
Looked better than he has for some time today. At his best when he mostly keeps it simple and breaks the tricks out when its needed rather than for showing off.
Far, far less of the dwelling on the ball stuff today. Kept it, moved it, picked the right passes. Guess he can play in a midfield two, eh?
Far, far less of the dwelling on the ball stuff today. Kept it, moved it, picked the right passes. Guess he can play in a midfield two, eh?
Used the ball very well first half
Showed what he's capable of. Kept things simple and he's the best when he doesn't over complicate. More of it please.
Good performance from him!
Looked tidy, composed and starting to show his confidence again.
It’s easy to point out his intercepted passes but he’s trying to create and play Lukaku in behind the swansea defence which is a hard pass to make. Did it brilliantly for Mata.
Hopefully he will play well next week and not going missing at the Etihad.
Looked tidy, composed and starting to show his confidence again.
It’s easy to point out his intercepted passes but he’s trying to create and play Lukaku in behind the swansea defence which is a hard pass to make. Did it brilliantly for Mata.
Hopefully he will play well next week and not going missing at the Etihad.
He's different class and better in a deeper role for me. Not sure why everyone seems to want him in a different role, I want him on the ball as much as possible.
I've been in here a lot slagging him off when he's played poorly, so it's only fair I praise him when he does well.
More like it today, got back a bit better and released the ball much better. Sure some of his balls weren't perfect but that will return as he gets more confident.
I think Matic was poor today so kudos to Pogba, Lingard and Mata for running the midfield.
More like it today, got back a bit better and released the ball much better. Sure some of his balls weren't perfect but that will return as he gets more confident.
I think Matic was poor today so kudos to Pogba, Lingard and Mata for running the midfield.
Better today. Looked closer to his early season performances. Still tuning up the band when it comes to long balls though.
Much better today because he played like another cog. No hero bullshit and instantly he becomes much better
Unusually for Pogba his long passing was off (Usually there are games he can be sloppy but still play pinpoint aerial balls at any moment) but apart from which I'm sure will be back with confidence. Otherwise a good game, his short and between lines passing was very good and he showed good strength. Kept the ball well, even in the second half (despite the commentators trying to claim otherwise when fouls were being called against him). Could have gotten 2 assists.
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