Yeah it seems odd
Paul Mcguiness Sacked ?
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Giggs has been doing a lot of work with the academy this year. Speaking with parents, taking training sessions etc. so perhaps he was genuinely just thanking him rather than having any ulterior motives
I always find it amazing when someone spends this long at one workplace. Maybe everywhere I have worked has been boring
Anyway, I hope this is part of structural and well-thought out changes in the academy, if it is indeed a sacking. I hope the changes are not just replacement of personnel.
I suppose it's different to other professions/jobs since it's probably unlikely you'll find a job of a similar level in the same area.I always find it amazing when someone spends this long at one workplace. Maybe everywhere I have worked has been boring
Anyway, I hope this is part of structural and well-thought out changes in the academy, if it is indeed a sacking. I hope the changes are not just replacement of personnel.
He's as similar age as Giggs and has been at the club basically the same time. Think it's fair to say that they know each other very well and considering who's left at the club from the time he started it's not strange to see him singled out, especially considering the whispers surrounding Giggs in the media.
Isn't Custis the one Van Gaal called fat? Not surprised he'd put a negative spin on any united related stuff
Is Giggsy going to be handed the reigns? Keep him at the club but also allow him to prove he has the ability to manage.
People love a good conspiracy theory here on the Caf whenever Giggs is mentioned.
Have you noticed that he didn't thank the Glazers, SAF, Charlton and the tea lady? I bet they were the ones who forced him out. Bastards
He was relieved from the job one day before the news was broke.Butt is set to make an announcement next week.
Tommy Martin (former U16s manager who was switched to assist Warren Joyce this season) will temporarily take charge for today game vs. Stoke.
Tommy Martin (former U16s manager who was switched to assist Warren Joyce this season) will temporarily take charge for today game vs. Stoke.
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David May always gets overlooked with these sort of things, where's his thanks?
"I will be forever grateful to SAF"
I get the feeling that Fergie ran the club more like a family business. Under Woodward I think things are going to be more hard headed.
That's the trouble of posting without taking coffee first. Did he thank Fred the red? I guess he was the ring leader
There's been talk about overalling the academy and just a causality of the new regime I recon. Probably jumped before the new broom. Sign of times to come I suspect. City are leading the way in its approach to football beyond the first team, and all the ex players sons who are half decent are at their academy not ours. Speaks volumes....
As if your sarcastic nonsense wasn't unfunny enough in the United football forum. Thanks for ruining the youth academy forum as well.
Firstly, I think that's a myth. Secondly, how do yo know which kids are half decent? Are you a regular match goer at u13 or u14 levels where all of these kids are playing?
I find it silly that Giggs conspiracy theories hit the youth academy as well and I am the kind of not shying away from the idea that Giggs want the job and there are people in OT who would like that
Who would have a problem with Giggs taking the job? Not that I think he will mind.
Obviously that's nonsense, but I guess you don't have to counter it with sarcasm!
This news in isolation is actually quite a big news given the history McGuinness has at United.
Its my way mate, give me a break.
Believe it or not I've met the guy and saw him in action when the youths came playing in Malta a few years ago against Hibs. I saw him leading and training the youth team which had young Jesse Lingard and Paul Pogba in it. He impressed me as a very intelligent guy and very modern and professional in his approach. Im not happy that he left
Your opinions seem to be based on articles which are factually wrong
Do you? Yes I am and when I say half decent, I mean decent enough to play at that level.
So you know where my information comes from do you?
You said all the ex players sons who are half decent are at City which was information which journalists had in their sensationalist stories which ignores a few fairly basic truths such as
1.you don't just place your son in Uniteds academy because you're an ex player they have to be scouted and invited to the academy just like everyone else
2.there's nothing to suggest that United actually tried to sign any of the players
3. At the moment the only ex players kids in City's academy are Fletchers since Neville's and RVP's have left
4. There are actually a number of ex Players kids in United's academy
5. Why should ex players decision on where there kids go be any more relevant than that of any other young players parents
It doesn't really make any difference to me where you get your information from wrong information is wrong information regardless of the source
Forums are full of idiots like you who think that just because you have absolute no idea, the person posting stuff must not either. Please dont judge me by what you clearly don't know. The idea that ex players sons enter into the club like a lad from longsight, is the most idiot thing I've read on here for ages.
Does Robbie Savage's son still play for us?
Yeah clearly I'm the one who doesn't know what I'm talking about
Yeah he does
So who is standing out in the u13/14s?
If you have read these forums for a while you will know that @jb8521 has a decent amount of insight into the whole academy system at Utd. He also made some very pertinent points that you dont seem to have seen or understood.
I'll be interested to see his next move. It'll tell us a lot about how much truth is in his talk about ambition for bigger jobs.
I can't help but think that he would have been one of the ones most effected by whatever reshuffle is coming and has decided it's probably a good time to bow out rather than work in a different role or with different responsibilities.
I can't help but think that he would have been one of the ones most effected by whatever reshuffle is coming and has decided it's probably a good time to bow out rather than work in a different role or with different responsibilities.
Could we be transitioning Giggs into an academy role?
I've got a feeling he possibly jumped before he was pushed.
My son
What makes you think I don't understand them? Hes just factually wrong. If he thinks the pathway to academy football is the same for a lad from longsight as it its for a players son, he's completely dillusional......
In fairness saying that footballers sons don't have an advantage when it comes to getting into academies is clearly complete bs. You think if Wayne Rooney wants his kid picked up by the academy the club are going to tell him to feck off? Come on now. I trust jb on everything else related to the youth teams, but not buying that for a second. There would be an unusual amount of footballers kids who happen to be in the 2% talented enough to get picked up by a top academy if that was the case.
I just hope that whoever comes in has been picked carefully and that the club are serious about this youth development revamp. With the new TV deal and increased revenues there's no excuse to not be putting a couple of million aside to maintain an elite academy.
I just hope that whoever comes in has been picked carefully and that the club are serious about this youth development revamp. With the new TV deal and increased revenues there's no excuse to not be putting a couple of million aside to maintain an elite academy.
We rejected Brooklyn Beckham so well...Although he was U14 at that time so different scenario.Robbie Savage had two sons with us in the very young age groups but we only took in the older one.They usually had a lot of players at age groups like U9s with huge rate of overturn when they proceed up to U12s so even if you got in didn't necessarily mean that you're too good to be missed.Proof is Fletcher twins were kicked out of the academy after they found out that they also trained with City, hardly sound like highly-rated isn't it.
Unless anyone can prove otherwise about ex-player sons I'm not really bothered about them tbh.There were better talents been poached by City that I'm more concerned about.Few months ago one of their U13s team beat us 2-0 both scorers were our ex-players.
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Fair enough, you are both far more in the know than me, so perhaps I'm wrong. Just with the way the world works it would seem hard to believe that the club wouldn't do the players a favour if they wanted their sons in the academy. But if we turned down Brooklyn Beckham then maybe so.
You're right about it not being the main issue anyway. It was something people would point to as a concern but like you say, the fact our youngsters are getting poached is cause to worry enough. Hopefully the club are serious about the investment into the youth academy. Give these kids incentive to be at United over City.
I can't wait for this season to end.. We'll be finally done with all the speculation and wild stories.
On the former players discussion, i think City are playing a good PR game by bringing in former players kids. Gives the impression that the players want their kids to play there when you just read about it in the paper or hear about it. Do you really think Gary Neville would put his kids in the City academy when he has the option to let them play for our team?
The academy that was good enough to bring him through is not good enough for his kid?
On the former players discussion, i think City are playing a good PR game by bringing in former players kids. Gives the impression that the players want their kids to play there when you just read about it in the paper or hear about it. Do you really think Gary Neville would put his kids in the City academy when he has the option to let them play for our team?
The academy that was good enough to bring him through is not good enough for his kid?