Paul Ince says we need to sign a striker!!!

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Man Utd need new striker - Ince

We've got half a dozen recognized strikers at the club including one of the world's best in Rooney, last year's top scorer Berbatov and goal machine Hernandez.

With gaping holes all over the rest of the pitch due to injuries and lack of quality cover the last place we need reinforcing is up front.

He is unbelievably clueless.
 
teague said:
Man Utd need new striker - Ince

We've got half a dozen recognized strikers at the club including one of the world's best in Rooney, last year's top scorer Berbatov and goal machine Hernandez.

With gaping holes all over the rest of the pitch due to injuries and lack of quality cover the last place we need reinforcing is up front.

He is unbelievably clueless.
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Don't think we have half a dozen recognized strikers, but yes that area is not a priority.
 
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Boss said:
Maybe we have different opinions of what's 'recognized'

Anyway I don't rate Macheda....as things stand.
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Bloody hell, I missed out our greatest prospect, Welbeck.

Take away Macheda then and you still have 5 recognized strikers, 1 short of 1/2 dozen. And you can't tell me Welbeck, Owen, Berbatov, Rooney & Hernandez aren't "recognized".
 
His reasoning is not entirely wrong. Do need someone up there with Rooney to take the pressure off him.

He does also go on to say we need creativity in the midfield.
 
apotheosis said:
:lol::lol:

Why on earth would you need to make a note to remind yourself of that? :wenger:
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In all fairness, what he could be reminding himself of is to tell his team that they ought to shoot once they get a half chance in the area rather than fanny about arsenal style trying to pass it into the net...who knows? He's not a good manager but I'm sure he deserves a bit more credit as a manager than we give him.
 
Hal9000 said:
His reasoning is not entirely wrong. Do need someone up there with Rooney to take the pressure off him..
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Yes it is.

We have Berba, Hernandez, Welbeck and Owen to "take the pressure off him". And whilst Hernandez was scoring before his injury, it didn't seem to help take "pressure off" Rooney.

We're just fine up front, Welbeck and Hernandez have bright futures.
 
Skholesy said:
In all fairness, what he could be reminding himself of is to tell his team that they ought to shoot once they get a half chance in the area rather than fanny about arsenal style trying to pass it into the net...who knows? He's not a good manager but I'm sure he deserves a bit more credit as a manager than we give him.
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He really doesn't.
 
To be fair Ince alludes to the fact that Berbatov isn't playing (enough), Owen is a sick-note, Hernandez is injured until Jan and Welbeck is young.

It is not at all a priority with our central midfield problems, but it isn't a totally ridiculous suggestion, even less so if Berbatov leaves.
 
finneh said:
To be fair Ince alludes to the fact that Berbatov isn't playing (enough), Owen is a sick-note, Hernandez is injured until Jan and Welbeck is young..
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Well that's why he's a shit manager.

I mean, Berba isn't playing enough.... let's buy a new striker.

Surely last season's top scorer not playing enough is proof that the last thing we need is a striker.

What next? Lindegaard isn't playing enough, United need a new keeper? :lol:
 
I think Owen and Berbatov will probably leave in the summer. And probably Diouf.

Macheda needs a loan deal for a season to a premier league side, hopefully.

Leaving us with Rooney, Welbeck and Hernandez as our 3 strikers. If he had said this in 6 months time he may have a point.
 
Sharky7 said:
Well that's why he's a shit manager.

I mean, Berba isn't playing enough.... let's buy a new striker.

Surely last season's top scorer not playing enough is proof that the last thing we need is a striker.

What next? Lindegaard isn't playing enough, United need a new keeper? :lol:
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I guess it's more the reason that he is barely playing even when fit, rather than the fact that we have a good striker in waiting. I wouldn't be massively surprised if he left in January, if that were the case then I'd agree we'd need another, if not in January then at the end of the season.


towcester_red said:
I think Owen and Berbatov will probably leave in the summer. And probably Diouf.

Macheda needs a loan deal for a season to a premier league side, hopefully.

Leaving us with Rooney, Welbeck and Hernandez as our 3 strikers. If he had said this in 6 months time he may have a point.
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I'd agree with this. It is possible however that Fergie wants to get to get someone in a little early so that they are settled by the Summer. It depends who is available and at what price I guess.
 
finneh said:
I guess it's more the reason that he is barely playing even when fit, rather than the fact that we have a good striker in waiting. I wouldn't be massively surprised if he left in January, if that were the case then I'd agree we'd need another, if not in January then at the end of the season.
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Yeah but the reason "he is barely playing even when fit" is because we don't need a striker, right now we don't even need Berbatov, so why would we need someone else?
 
Sharky7 said:
Yes it is.

We have Berba, Hernandez, Welbeck and Owen to "take the pressure off him". And whilst Hernandez was scoring before his injury, it didn't seem to help take "pressure off" Rooney.

We're just fine up front, Welbeck and Hernandez have bright futures.
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Sorry but Berba has scored 2 in 12 this season, if you ignore his last season, 12 in 44 and 14 in 44 previously, his performances are not enough to "take the pressure off". Welbeck and Macheda are both young and still learning. Owen can't even break into an 18 man squad when fit.
 
Sharky7 said:
Yeah but the reason "he is barely playing even when fit" is because we don't need a striker, right now we don't even need Berbatov, so why would we need someone else?
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Tbf Sharky i think there could be a case made that Berba isn't playing because SAF doesn't rate him anymore. I said months ago i think he is only being kept as second striker cover for Rooney, but it appears SAF just doesn't really trust him to do the job, unless he has almost no choice.

My point i suppose is that Owen, Diouf and Berbatov are not getting games not because Rooney has been too brilliant to drop, but more because even when he is off form, he still generally offers more to the team's effectiveness than those 3.

He obviously has the belief in Welbeck for instance as you can see SAF making the effort to integrate him into the team, even changing the formation to give him a chance to play. He has never made a similar effort like that with any of the 3 i mentioned.

They seem to be viewed as viable cover only in the most extreme of circumstances, and therefore could be reasonably deemed as non essential personnel or more simply surplus to requirements.
 
apotheosis said:
Tbf Sharky i think there could be a case made that Berba isn't playing because SAF doesn't rate him anymore. I said months ago i think he is only being kept as second striker cover for Rooney, but it appears SAF just doesn't really trust him to do the job, unless he has almost no choice.

My point i suppose is that Owen, Diouf and Berbatov are not getting games not because Rooney has been too brilliant to drop, but more because even when he is off form, he still generally offers more to the team's effectiveness than those 3.

He obviously has the belief in Welbeck for instance as you can see SAF making the effort to integrate him into the team, even changing the formation to give him a chance to play. He has never made a similar effort like that with any of the 3 i mentioned.

They seem to be viewed as viable cover only in the most extreme of circumstances, and therefore could be reasonably deemed as non essential personnel or more simply surplus to requirements.
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Agreed. If you discount the players that are out of form & favour or not good enough you really only have Rooney, Hernandez & Welbeck (the latter of which still has much to prove).

Not saying this is enough to warrant going out and buying a striker in January (particularly as there are far more pressing concerns in other areas), but I'd be surprised if we didn't invest in the Summer.
 
Hal9000 said:
Sorry but Berba has scored 2 in 12 this season, if you ignore his last season, 12 in 44 and 14 in 44 previously, his performances are not enough to "take the pressure off". Welbeck and Macheda are both young and still learning. Owen can't even break into an 18 man squad when fit.
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Ah ok, now we're fecked up front too :rolleyes:
 
Hal9000 said:
Sorry but Berba has scored 2 in 12 this season, if you ignore his last season, 12 in 44 and 14 in 44 previously, his performances are not enough to "take the pressure off". Welbeck and Macheda are both young and still learning. Owen can't even break into an 18 man squad when fit.
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Why would you ignore his last season?
 
apotheosis said:
Of course we do! Look at Chelsea and Liverpool buying Torres and Carroll last Jan, that went well.....ahem!
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We've got a ludicrous injury list but that will mean nothing if we don't perform because of it.

We need a centre back and possible cover in central defence, as well as at least one midfiled player. The injuires are unlucky but its simply exposed the failings in the squad depth and, in my opinion, poor planning - especially in midfield given Fletcher's obviously ongoing problems.

To be honest we've been average going forward over the last ten games so perhaps Paul Ince has a point.
 
This was an idiotic comment.

He's trying to get exposure to the fact that he's looking for a job. But on this whole interview he came across as as not very bright.

This is a shame as he showed promise as a manager in his early years with Chesterfield (was it?) and MK Dons getting both promoted.

He is trying to get work and should on the radio be demonstrating how he would turn teams around with little-no money. He didn't need to wade into the strikers department. It wasn't necessary. We have 3 recognised 20-goal a season strikers an aging one and a striker who may go on to score 20 goals a season. We need central midfield players, a left back, and possibly a left winger. Wading into another striker was inept from a tactical point of view of trying to get back gainful employment.
 
tintedsepia said:
We need central midfield players, a left back, and possibly a left winger.
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We possibly need a left winger, but definitely don't need a striker? That is insane. Nani, Young, Giggs, Park, Rooney, Cleverley and Welbeck can all operate from the left (4 of which it is there preferred position).
 
finneh said:
We possibly need a left winger, but definitely don't need a striker? That is insane. Nani, Young, Giggs, Park, Rooney, Cleverley and Welbeck can all operate from the left (4 of which it is there preferred position).
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I don't mean in January. I mean if you are looking to improve the team would look at a left winger. i.e. a left-footed winger who can go past players. Park doesn't do that any more, Giggs doesn't play there any more, Nani and Young can play there agreed, Rooney shouldn't really play there. Cleverley is not effective there. Welbeck can play there I suppose but he is a striker.

If you were wanting to improve the team which positions would you favour. I'd look at central midfield, left back (young player who could eventually take over Evra's position) and a left-footed winger as we don't have one in the squad. I didn't say we needed a winger in January or a striker in January. What we need are central midfield players.

What about this don't you agree with?
 
We currently have six strikers, 4 of which I doubt that we'll seen them again in a United shirt next season (Owen, Berba, Diouf and Macheda). Under such circumstances I wont be surprised if we sign a new striker next season.
 
He also didn't say we should sign Modric or Iniesta he said we should look for someone creative in the midfield like Modric or Iniesta.
 
devilish said:
We currently have six strikers, 4 of which I doubt that we'll seen them again in a United shirt next season (Owen, Berba, Diouf and Macheda). Under such circumstances I wont be surprised if we sign a new striker next season.
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7. Welbeck, Hernandez and Rooney are long term.
 
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