This feels pretty steep to be honest, considering our financial situation
Patrick Dorgu | United in talks
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Surely he must mean something else? It's January which is about as cold as it gets, what else would he expect!
EDIT: just realised it was sarcasm - and meaning transfer season
That's true, I guess. Although, Amad combining with another strong, pacey player with good attacking instincts can cause havoc on the right.
I'm so confused by the 'what would Brighton be paying here?' comments. This is exactly the type of signing Brighton would make. This summer alone:
Matt O'Reilly - Celtic - €30m
Ferdi Kadiolgu - Fenerbahce - €30m
Brajan Gruda - Mainz - €31.5m
Mats Wieffer - Feyenoord - €32m
Yankuba Minteh - Newcastle - €35m
Georginio Rutter - Leeds - €47m
Dorgu is playing for a club (and his country by the way) coming up against stiffer competition week in week out than anyone on the list above was when they were signed (and I include Minteh in that, as he was on loan at Feyenoord). What makes people think that it's obscene that a club like United are going to have to pay €40m for him based on master recruiters Brighton's signings?
People haven't even seen him play and are saying we shouldn't be paying €40m for him... How would you know?!?! Have some faith that the newer structure (and manager) we have in place might produce some different results in recruitment. Try and be positive! If he signs and it turns out he's shit, you'll have plenty of time to moan about it then.
Matt O'Reilly - Celtic - €30m
Ferdi Kadiolgu - Fenerbahce - €30m
Brajan Gruda - Mainz - €31.5m
Mats Wieffer - Feyenoord - €32m
Yankuba Minteh - Newcastle - €35m
Georginio Rutter - Leeds - €47m
Dorgu is playing for a club (and his country by the way) coming up against stiffer competition week in week out than anyone on the list above was when they were signed (and I include Minteh in that, as he was on loan at Feyenoord). What makes people think that it's obscene that a club like United are going to have to pay €40m for him based on master recruiters Brighton's signings?
People haven't even seen him play and are saying we shouldn't be paying €40m for him... How would you know?!?! Have some faith that the newer structure (and manager) we have in place might produce some different results in recruitment. Try and be positive! If he signs and it turns out he's shit, you'll have plenty of time to moan about it then.
Sign him if he can fight. He looks big though.
About time we get in more players who can shithouse us wins - kicking everybody till we win.
We need to start looking intimidating again.
About time we get in more players who can shithouse us wins - kicking everybody till we win.
We need to start looking intimidating again.
So he’d rather join us than anyone els. Positive news
He is no where near worth £30m, if we pay anything more than £15m including add-ons (similar to what the club paid for Malacia), then INEOS are as bad as the glazers, he should be treated as punt just like Malacia.
Dorgu was mentioned few times in recent past (not sure if it was related to United or some other team) and that's all I know about him.
He's left-footed so probably would play at LWB? Hopefully he's decent with his right foot as well and can play on both sides.
He's left-footed so probably would play at LWB? Hopefully he's decent with his right foot as well and can play on both sides.
He's worth 20m euros according to Transfemarkt. However, got contract until 2029 and last extension was few months ago. And it's January. So they'll be looking for bigger fee. Hopefully we can negotiate reasonable fee instead of overpaying again.
MUFC stands for Manchester United Football Club not Manchester United Fight Club!
I am sure we are not going to pay €40mil for him, if Garnacho is being priced around €60mil by us.
That's just because we don't talk about that
These are the signings everyone needs to make now. Surely no one can be splashing out 100's of millions again unless you are getting relegated and PSR wont be requirement
No club will determine the valuation of a player without considering what they can do on the pitch. The points you mentioned have nothing to do with a player's overall skillset, which you just completely ignore, but it's the most important thing clubs will look at.
Fair enough, but £30m is around €35m, sounds steep from €20m valuation, I respect that Lecce would want to fleece us but we should not be fleeced, €20m is a fair value for him and I assure no one is knocking at Lecce's door to pay them £30m for Dorgu
Because we've been overpaying for players for the last decade so there's a "United Tax".
It's on us to revert that, teams to that because we've shown time and time again that we'll pay over the odds. The right thing is to value the player if it's more than what we think its fair then move on, that's the way to do it then team will know they have to put fair prices if they want to sell.
His pace and athleticism alone will be nice to bring into the side. The more powerful players, the better. Especially in those gruelling wingback positions.
Not sure how well we can expect a 20 year old from a relegation threatened Serie A side to hit the ground running at Manchester United, but I think he should be okay generally.
In an ideal world we target someone a bit more proven — the names like Ait Nouri, Mendes, Robinson, Davies etc. will come to mind — but I don’t think we have the facilities for that. Dorgu will undoubtedly be on a lot less money than them
Not sure how well we can expect a 20 year old from a relegation threatened Serie A side to hit the ground running at Manchester United, but I think he should be okay generally.
In an ideal world we target someone a bit more proven — the names like Ait Nouri, Mendes, Robinson, Davies etc. will come to mind — but I don’t think we have the facilities for that. Dorgu will undoubtedly be on a lot less money than them
Agree. Could be something like 25m pounds + 5m add-ons? There's enough time in the window to find the agreement but definitely wouldn't like to see us being ripped off by another club.
Best post here. Well done!
So you’ve followed him closely then?
Excellent post.
They got Mitoma for €3m
Estupenian who is an LB from La Liga for €17m
Van Hacke for €2m
Ayari for €3m
The guys I mentioned started against us yesterday.
What Brighton do has nothing to do with us, we should be able to negotiate and get this fella on a fee that's not as high as €35m if we believe the rumors.
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Nope, know nothing about him, and that should tell you he is an unknown, an unknown should not cost a pretty penny, €35 plus bonuses is hefty for someone most of us know nothing about
Is he strong and fast? Because lord knows we could do with some physicality.
What an utterly moronic line of thinking
More successful attacking actions than even Amorims favorite at Sporting, Quenda
To be fair, all of these players were loaned out for several years before playing in Brighton's first 11.
Being able to move on from players who don’t make it is so crucial now and it’s another reason teams spread money around and sign younger players.
We have to accept that we can’t solve all our problems by signing 50m plus players. I think Malacia will go on loan as well and we will effectively replace Antony and Malacia with Dorgu.
Pay Malacia price, get Malacia level player.
Good post.
Utd fans - "why can't we sign players from clubs before their price sky rockets?"
Also Utd fans "why are we paying 30m for a player nobody has ever heard of or seen play?"
If Brighton or Brentford were in for this lad for 20-30m, we'd be hearing about shite Utd are in the transfer market.
Also Utd fans "why are we paying 30m for a player nobody has ever heard of or seen play?"
If Brighton or Brentford were in for this lad for 20-30m, we'd be hearing about shite Utd are in the transfer market.
Maybe it should tell you the football world of valuations doesn’t start and end with @OmarUnited4ever’s football knowledge.
You probably don't know anything about dozens of players that are very highly regarded by scouts as top prospects, what does that have to do with anything
Especially as all clubs know United only pay hefty sums for absolutely mint world class players, which has been proven by our astute acquisitions over the last decade or so.
Unknown to who?
Did you hear about Yoro before last summer? When did you first hear about Pau Cubarsí, Lamine Yamal, Josh Acheampong, or Dean Huijsen? Surely you realize what you're saying is just not making sense.
Also, it's funny because I first heard about Dorgu more than a year ago. Just because you're not following young talents before they make a name for themselves, that doesn't mean much. By the time you've heard about Dorgu, which I assume is today, all the top clubs around Europe will have compiled extensive scouting reports on him.
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I've not watched him play so I have no idea if he's good enough but judging from his youtube highlights he is exactly the type of player we should be looking for, strong, fast and with the ability to run with the ball on the wings.
I will be absolutely thrilled if we end up signing him. I'm not all that familiar with him but that doesn't really matter. He's a left back, an actual left back!
Sounds like a good transfer in general, but one that would be more suited to a summer transfer imo. Can't imagine him making a straight impact in the EPL. Would have preferred Kerkez or Aït-Nouri but understand that they might cost too much. Massive upgrade over Malacia I guess.