He’s homegrown right? So the IOU Napoli gives us is worth triple or some nonsense?
But yeah I agree, a striker is desperately needed.
Patrick Dorgu | United in talks
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
But yeah I agree, a striker is desperately needed.
That tells us nothing though to be fair. City was linked to Sanchez, Maguire, Fred before we signed them all. I genuinely think he’ll be a decent buy but like I’ve just said it makes no sense signing a LWB alone when we’re potentially letting 3 attackers go.
Is there a possibility of both? Alvaro for the left and Dorgu for the right. Offer 20 plus add ons for dorgu and use the buy option for Alvaro which is 16mil isn't it? Then get Quenda on top of Diego Leon and those positions are sorted for a long time.
I'd be happy with a back line of
Alvaro (cm) (cm) Dorgu
Martinez Maguire Mazraoui
Dorgu con Lecce -> Dorgu sin Lecce -> Dorgu con Licha
Bummer! 
The player has some encouraging qualities but is too hit-and-miss as a creative outlet (arguably the foremost consideration for wingers and wingbacks) and a real work in progress from a positional standpoint at this point in time. Surely we could recruit someone who's more polished or more talented at that price range (or a bit higher, perhaps, if push comes to shove and we have to pay a slight premium for crème de la crème options?)
That being said, would love to be proven wrong (in the near term, and especially in the years to come). Hope spring eternal, as always; maybe Dorgu is primed for the next step in his development and there's more to him than meets the eye (which has captured the imagination of our scouting department).
The player has some encouraging qualities but is too hit-and-miss as a creative outlet (arguably the foremost consideration for wingers and wingbacks) and a real work in progress from a positional standpoint at this point in time. Surely we could recruit someone who's more polished or more talented at that price range (or a bit higher, perhaps, if push comes to shove and we have to pay a slight premium for crème de la crème options?)
That being said, would love to be proven wrong (in the near term, and especially in the years to come). Hope spring eternal, as always; maybe Dorgu is primed for the next step in his development and there's more to him than meets the eye (which has captured the imagination of our scouting department).
I've never seen the guy play so I have no idea about him per se. However, I'm really happy with the "profile" of the signing in the club pursuing younger players that we could potentially build a team with over the next several seasons.
It might be naive of me, but with Berrada/Ineos stating that the aim is to win the PL again in 2028, I genuinely believe that the way to achieve that aim, and to remain successfull, is through buying young up-and-coming players and build with a longer view than this or even next season. We could perhaps sprinkle with a marquee signing or two if everything else is aligned, but still with 80% of our signings being young, hungy, highly rated talents.
I understand that that would probably also demand more patience in the sence that probably also next season will be unsuccessfull, but for the greater good i.e. long term success I do believe it's the way to go about it. Or else we will be in this turmoil every other season anyways..
That being said, for all I know this guy could be 100% hopeless, but as long as we don't feck up with a big fat contract there's always a resale value when buying young talents.
It might be naive of me, but with Berrada/Ineos stating that the aim is to win the PL again in 2028, I genuinely believe that the way to achieve that aim, and to remain successfull, is through buying young up-and-coming players and build with a longer view than this or even next season. We could perhaps sprinkle with a marquee signing or two if everything else is aligned, but still with 80% of our signings being young, hungy, highly rated talents.
I understand that that would probably also demand more patience in the sence that probably also next season will be unsuccessfull, but for the greater good i.e. long term success I do believe it's the way to go about it. Or else we will be in this turmoil every other season anyways..
That being said, for all I know this guy could be 100% hopeless, but as long as we don't feck up with a big fat contract there's always a resale value when buying young talents.
Damn, He doesn't look better than Dalot there.
Was my first impression. Dalot like performance, maybe even a bit poorer in an attacking sense. Some nice interceptions though
That's it, I'm not onboard with this now.Bummer!
The player has some encouraging qualities but is too hit-and-miss as a creative outlet (arguably the foremost consideration for wingers and wingbacks) and a real work in progress from a positional standpoint at this point in time. Surely we could recruit someone who's more polished or more talented at that price range (or a bit higher, perhaps, if push comes to shove and we have to pay a slight premium for crème de la crème options?)
That being said, would love to be proven wrong (in the near term, and especially in the years to come). Hope spring eternal, as always; maybe Dorgu is primed for the next step in his development and there's more to him than meets the eye (which has captured the imagination of our scouting department).
Would it not be better to spend €40m on a goal scorer?
Is he worth the investment given out financial troubles then?Bummer!
The player has some encouraging qualities but is too hit-and-miss as a creative outlet (arguably the foremost consideration for wingers and wingbacks) and a real work in progress from a positional standpoint at this point in time. Surely we could recruit someone who's more polished or more talented at that price range (or a bit higher, perhaps, if push comes to shove and we have to pay a slight premium for crème de la crème options?)
That being said, would love to be proven wrong (in the near term, and especially in the years to come). Hope spring eternal, as always; maybe Dorgu is primed for the next step in his development and there's more to him than meets the eye (which has captured the imagination of our scouting department).
Can we get one? Striker and LWB are our biggest needs, I'll take whichever one we can get.
I've watched another 3 compilations. Gotta say that I don't see it anything special about him. Not physically imposing, or really fast, no outrageous skill or dribbling, not particularly good crosser or finisher.
And he's not cheap like Malacia, either.
Sounds like a United player.
The biggest issue for me. He's not a punt, he's like 75% of the fee of a big boy WB
I'm into potential young talent at cheap prices, but I hope this board know what they're doing and making sure they balance it with experience, we don't want to turn into Spurs. At this price if he flops we're in more trouble.
Not convinced. Lots of heavy touches that draw him into 50 50s and has to use he's speed to compete for a ball he should have had. Alot like zirkzees youtube vids.
Bummer!
The player has some encouraging qualities but is too hit-and-miss as a creative outlet (arguably the foremost consideration for wingers and wingbacks) and a real work in progress from a positional standpoint at this point in time. Surely we could recruit someone who's more polished or more talented at that price range (or a bit higher, perhaps, if push comes to shove and we have to pay a slight premium for crème de la crème options?)
That being said, would love to be proven wrong (in the near term, and especially in the years to come). Hope spring eternal, as always; maybe Dorgu is primed for the next step in his development and there's more to him than meets the eye (which has captured the imagination of our scouting department).
He only just turned 20 in October and is clearly not the finished article, but if he fits Amorims style and is fairly cheap, he can be molded and can't be any worse than Dalot has been.
The club won't be signing many finished articles any more, cheaper young players that can improve looks to be the new approach.
Well they paid about 10 mil for Barco in the summer, who had a similar level of promise about him. Then loaned him to Sevilla
Ah here. Whatever about anything else, his physicality is pretty excellent for a 20 year old.
I know the forum doesn’t like to hear it, and I am not saying the lad is Cafu, but if you watch a lot of football you’d know that not many full backs today are better than Dalot, especially on the right. Sure a lot might be better if you focus on one thing, for example finishing, but when you look at defending, pace, stamina, injury record, versatility, quality of overlapping runs, and the rest of it, he’s very good.
We’re obsessed with him because the rest of our attacking play is so pathetic that he gets on the end of attacks so often, on his left foot, because no one else knows how to make a run in behind or has the pace to exploit spaces etc.
Anyway, Dorgu would be replacing Mazraoui imo. He’d play on the left and Dalot moves to the right because Nous at wingback makes my eyes bleed.
Sounds like a prime target produced by our scouting departement. Our Italian record is very poor. Would Wolves turn down 40m euro for Ait-Nouri?Bummer!
The player has some encouraging qualities but is too hit-and-miss as a creative outlet (arguably the foremost consideration for wingers and wingbacks) and a real work in progress from a positional standpoint at this point in time. Surely we could recruit someone who's more polished or more talented at that price range (or a bit higher, perhaps, if push comes to shove and we have to pay a slight premium for crème de la crème options?)
That being said, would love to be proven wrong (in the near term, and especially in the years to come). Hope spring eternal, as always; maybe Dorgu is primed for the next step in his development and there's more to him than meets the eye (which has captured the imagination of our scouting department).
Do people believe he's being brought in as the first-choice left wing-back, or do you think we'll still pursue another option in that position during the summer?
Good post.
I like Dalot. I wish he'd use his left foot a bit more, but he's clearly a very good player. Strong athlete and putting in the work as well. Also agree with any new LWB leading to Dalot on the right and Maz RCB.
Still, for the touted 35M, I'm not convinced
No sane club spends £30m on a backup full back.
First choice given the talks of it being above £30m.
I live in hope that we are negotiating with different teams and using that interest to driving prices down.
Dorgu is a prospect signing in 16m range.
Ait Nouri would be ideal.
Dorgu is a prospect signing in 16m range.
Ait Nouri would be ideal.
First choice. On the basis of the price, the fact that he was being reported as an alternative to other players who would also be first choice, and the fact that the other clubs linked to him were being linked with him as a player to be first choice.
This is United we're talking about.
Don’t think there are any €40m forwards that would be worthwhile. West Ham has been bidding close to £60m for Duran.
If he’s signed it will be to come in and start straight away, we’ve also just signed that Diego Leon kid who’ll be joining in the summer, so can’t see us signing two youth prospects when we need a first choice LWB.
feck me, he looks like incoming deadwood. None of that is better than what Dalot serves up. Our recruitment truly is the worst in the league.
It’s fairly obvious the club is valuing physical tools very highly at the moment.
Signing Dorgu means they trust that Amorim could simplify his role enough to help him excel. And this is something that he was very good at doing with Sporting.
Dorgu is very fast, is very tenacious and is strong. If we deploy him currently, then he can bring dynamism to our attack on the left. And we would need to give him simple defensive assignments to focus on while he grows.
My first choice is Ait-Nouri, and has been for as long as I’ve been on this forum, but Dorgu is big talent for his position, and I wouldn’t complain about signing him.
Signing Dorgu means they trust that Amorim could simplify his role enough to help him excel. And this is something that he was very good at doing with Sporting.
Dorgu is very fast, is very tenacious and is strong. If we deploy him currently, then he can bring dynamism to our attack on the left. And we would need to give him simple defensive assignments to focus on while he grows.
My first choice is Ait-Nouri, and has been for as long as I’ve been on this forum, but Dorgu is big talent for his position, and I wouldn’t complain about signing him.
This all looks like agent drumming up interest, after we made a tentative enquiry and the agent went giddy tweeting.
I doubt we are trying to sort something for the summer. It’s now or never I would imagine as we’ll have more options in the summer.
Never watched him play in a game but his highlights videos don’t do much for me.
Have my reservations about shopping in Italy and specifically the lower end of Serie A. That said the cost of buying Premier League proven is more than we have available.