Patrick Dorgu | United in talks

The scouting teams at Tottenham, Chelsea, AC Milan, Napoli and Juventus are probably all morons for wanting Dorgu for their clubs. The Caf knows the truth. Or what?

Patrick Dorgu has the full package to become one of the worlds top left backs. Fast, really strong, good engine, good technique. He was originally trained as a striker/winger and he wants to get forward, as seen in his stats. Fits the Amorim system requirements. He is young though, and like Rasmus, Garnacho, Mainoo etc, he is not the finished product yet.

I think 40 Mio for a 20 year old up and coming player is bonkers, but looking at the "Brighton-Post" sadly it isn´t anymore. I think this is the way to go. The alternative is the road to hell, and we have been cruising Damnation Avenue for way too long. The big names will only come here for an obscene amount of money the way the club is presenting itself right now. I would much rather go for young and hungry players on the way up.

Only matters if they match the price. Else they dont want him
 
My experience with him also wasn’t positive but people rave about him on all FM related websites. He is included in all shortlist of top LB/LWB.

He is a wingback (so not exactly very good defensively) and his attributes are not impressive in the beginning of the game. It’s season 26/27 in my save and his an absolute beast, still plays for Lecce. However, when I bought him for United in another save, he turned out to be meh.
That level of realism in a video game is astonishing :lol: :lol:
 
I have seen him for the Danish National Team and for his club in Lecce and I am really surprised that he is associated with us again and again. I think he is good going forward (he can actually play as a winger too) and therefore fits the style of play Amorim wants for United, but defensively he is no better than Malacia. He is of course only 20 years old, but I find it difficult to understand if we buy him - at least from what I have seen in the Danish national team and for Lecce.
 
Seriously, though. I know it’s only a set of highlights, and… and… but I’m a little bit happy with the idea of him at LWB.

Will be interesting to see if he even plays that side

He's played leftback for several games, but when picked in attack its almost always on the right like Amad
 
My experience with him also wasn’t positive but people rave about him on all FM related websites. He is included in all shortlist of top LB/LWB.

He is a wingback (so not exactly very good defensively) and his attributes are not impressive in the beginning of the game. It’s season 26/27 in my save and his an absolute beast, still plays for Lecce. However, when I bought him for United in another save, he turned out to be meh.
So we just have to reset saves until it works.
 
That level of realism in a video game is astonishing :lol: :lol:
Let's hope whatever happens in that game doesn't turn out to be true as I have had a couple of saves where United ended up getting relegated. :lol:
 
Will be interesting to see if he even plays that side

He's played leftback for several games, but when picked in attack its almost always on the right like Amad
He is considered an alternative to the likes of Davies and Mendes according to Romano and it's well documented from almost day one of Amorim arrival that the lwb position is one he desperately needs so definitely that's the role we are buying him to play.
 
I have seen him for the Danish National Team and for his club in Lecce and I am really surprised that he is associated with us again and again. I think he is good going forward (he can actually play as a winger too) and therefore fits the style of play Amorim wants for United, but defensively he is no better than Malacia. He is of course only 20 years old, but I find it difficult to understand if we buy him - at least from what I have seen in the Danish national team and for Lecce.

I dont think we're particularly looking for amazing defenders for the wingback positions, especially as we have some fullbacks already in the positions. I think we're looking to get pace and supporting attacking play from new players in the position as they will provide a lot of the wwidth going forward

Compared to some of the other wingers, wingbacks and fullbacks Dorgu wins the ball quite a lot and more than some of them, like Kerkez and Mendes. So while I'm not doubting he will have weak areas defending, overall he does seem to have a defensive side as well and the alternatives also have their defensive frailties
 
He is considered an alternative to the likes of Davies and Mendes according to Romano and it's well documented from almost day one of Amorim arrival that the lwb position is one he desperately needs so definitely that's the role we are buying him to play.

I'm sure he is an alternative, that doesnt mean he has to play left back if hes more comfortable and wants to play on the right. Amad played on the right even though hes left footed and we lacked a left back
 
I dont think we're particularly looking for amazing defenders for the wingback positions, especially as we have some fullbacks already in the positions. I think we're looking to get pace and supporting attacking play from new players in the position as they will provide a lot of the wwidth going forward

Compared to some of the other wingers, wingbacks and fullbacks Dorgu wins the ball quite a lot and more than some of them, like Kerkez and Mendes. So while I'm not doubting he will have weak areas defending, overall he does seem to have a defensive side as well and the alternatives also have their defensive frailties
I agree - I think he will fit the formation Amorim wants and he will be better going forward than Dalot, Malacia or Mazraoui. But I cant help thinking that a left back should be better at defending than Dorgu is.
 
Most games he plays left back.

No, most games he plays right wing

5 on the right wing of a 4-2-3-1 and 3 on the right of a front 3.

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He is considered an alternative to the likes of Davies and Mendes according to Romano and it's well documented from almost day one of Amorim arrival that the lwb position is one he desperately needs so definitely that's the role we are buying him to play.
Since lwb was highlighted as the weakest position, I presume situation on right wing is kind of ok. Is it because Dalot supposed to play on the right side or because of Amad? I’d prefer Amad in advanced position
 
They got Mitoma for €3m
Estupenian who is an LB from La Liga for €17m
Van Hacke for €2m
Ayari for €3m

The guys I mentioned started against us yesterday.

What Brighton do has nothing to do with us, we should be able to negotiate and get this fella on a fee that's not as high as €35m if we believe the rumors.
Mitoma was signed from their sister club.
 
I have seen him for the Danish National Team and for his club in Lecce and I am really surprised that he is associated with us again and again. I think he is good going forward (he can actually play as a winger too) and therefore fits the style of play Amorim wants for United, but defensively he is no better than Malacia. He is of course only 20 years old, but I find it difficult to understand if we buy him - at least from what I have seen in the Danish national team and for Lecce.

The reason to play this way is the 3 central players defend and allow the WB to push on more
 
I agree - I think he will fit the formation Amorim wants and he will be better going forward than Dalot, Malacia or Mazraoui. But I cant help thinking that a left back should be better at defending than Dorgu is.

Fair enough, I'm sure you've seen a lot more of him than me. Thats dissappointing to hear because from the stats that seemed like the more solid area
 
Your response is genuinely one of the worst I’ve ever read on this forum, “I’ve never heard of him, he can’t be any good” you actually have the audacity to insinuate that post had meaning?
stop lying, I did not say he can't be any good, I did not insinuate that, I said he is an unknown and should not cost us 35m or whatever is being mentioned now, but you decided to fabricate what I am thinking instead discussing what I said, and then the worst ever you read!! talk about sensitive.

Again another boring response and you are yet to discuss the matter or the point in my post.
 
Only matters if they match the price. Else they dont want him
At least they won´t get him, but that is not the point. All these scouts are seeing something in Dorgu. I don´t think they are wrong. Amorim doesn´t either, or else we wouldn´t be in talks right now. We need someone with a left foot who can run up and down the pitch for 90 minutes and we are not getting Davies or Nunez as a bottom half team right now. Dorgu could be a good buy from my point of view.
 
stop lying, I did not say he can't be any good, I did not insinuate that, I said he is an unknown and should not cost us 35m or whatever is being mentioned now, but you decided to fabricate what I am thinking instead discussing what I said, and then the worst ever you read!! talk about sensitive.

Again another boring response and you are yet to discuss the matter or the point in my post.
It's absolutely what you insinuated and were rightly called out on it by about 10 different people. What's there to discuss? You haven't seen him play.
 
30-40m eur is such a ridiculous amount people talk about. Under current climate, it’s even more ridiculous. 10-18m is already very inflated.
 
At least they won´t get him, but that is not the point. All these scouts are seeing something in Dorgu. I don´t think they are wrong. Amorim doesn´t either, or else we wouldn´t be in talks right now. We need someone with a left foot who can run up and down the pitch for 90 minutes and we are not getting Davies or Nunez as a bottom half team right now. Dorgu could be a good buy from my point of view.

I agree. Not 100% sure he's my first pick as I think some of the other options are faster. But I think his overall skillset is interesting and longterm that he would be a good player... Just... We've overpaid a lot for young promising players and dont want this to be another one in the cycle.
 
I'm sure he is an alternative, that doesnt mean he has to play left back if hes more comfortable and wants to play on the right. Amad played on the right even though hes left footed and we lacked a left back
He'll probably be able to play both sides considering he has experience playing as a right winger.
Since lwb was highlighted as the weakest position, I presume situation on right wing is kind of ok. Is it because Dalot supposed to play on the right side or because of Amad? I’d prefer Amad in advanced position
To be honest I think we need both sides. I don't fancy Maz or Dalot as genuine threats in the final third which a wingback should be.
 
It's absolutely what you insinuated and were rightly called out on it by about 10 different people. What's there to discuss? You haven't seen him play.
others agreed with my thinking (that 35m or 40m is too much), but you didn't see that.

Again, I did not see him play, hence I don't know him, however, I am saying 35m is too much for him, for a player of his profile, so this is me trying to discuss in good faith, do you think Manchester United should pay 35m euros or 30m pounds for him in Jan 2025?
 
Hell of a step up for him this.

Hopefully he's one of those rare breed young players who takes to it quickly.

But I don't get us as a club. We seem intent on signing all age brackets outside of those prime years.
 
I have seen him for the Danish National Team and for his club in Lecce and I am really surprised that he is associated with us again and again. I think he is good going forward (he can actually play as a winger too) and therefore fits the style of play Amorim wants for United, but defensively he is no better than Malacia. He is of course only 20 years old, but I find it difficult to understand if we buy him - at least from what I have seen in the Danish national team and for Lecce.

That definitely sounds like the perfect transfer target for this club. If they can overpay by 70-80%, even better.
 
We cannot make the same mistake as Sancho, by signing him for the right wing and then finding out that he wants to play on the left wing. Dorgu should only be signed if he is happy to play LWB.
 
It's hard to get a good read on his stats with him playing different positions etc, but some things are the same no matter which position he's compared against...

His successful take-on %, numbers for miscontrols and being dispossessed and most of his passing stats are just shocking.
 
We cannot make the same mistake as Sancho, by signing him for the right wing and then finding out that he wants to play on the left wing. Dorgu should only be signed if he is happy to play LWB.
If the manager likes inverted WB's as told by Sporting fans then we are probably signing him to play RWB & will continue playing Dalot as a LWB.
 
If the manager likes inverted WB's as told by Sporting fans then we are probably signing him to play RWB & will continue playing Dalot as a LWB.
That would be insanity (excuse the pun). We have someone capable of playing RWB. We don't have someone capable of playing LWB.
 
Hell of a step up for him this.

Hopefully he's one of those rare breed young players who takes to it quickly.

But I don't get us as a club. We seem intent on signing all age brackets outside of those prime years.
Prime year players are extremely expensive, I think we can't pay 90m+ for anyone atm.
 
That would be insanity (excuse the pun). We have someone capable of playing RWB. We don't have someone capable of playing LWB.
I'm guessing he would be seen as someone who can cover both sides depending on who else is available for any given game.
 
I think we do have a competent hierarchy now who can get deals done quickly. They’ve just gotta deal with the absolute shitshow finances first.

Wonder who we might bring in should be manage to offload casemiro and Rashford. The way this has come out of nowhere after Antony’s departure tells me we probably have more lined up.