Think he had a very good relationship with SAF and could be the main reason if it eventually becomes true. Would be sad to see him go, but i genuinely hope this is false news.
Patrice Evra to Monaco?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
To me Evra, Rio and Giggs are the three most important players for this transition, I really hope we don't sell him.
Rafael was a big gamble that only few big clubs are willing to take. I didn't see it in Rafael that warrant such a gamble, because he's so different than any fullback we've had in the club. It's definitely paid off, and I'm more than relieve.
I don't know. I sometimes a bit fed up with us buying so many kids and expecting them to be world class in the next 4-6 years. I prefer the Evra, Vidic, or Carrick route, of buying potential but not so much on the waiting time.
Evra linked with a move? 10 game ban!
From our position, we were reportedly prepared to offer him a contract extension in March, not much would have changed since so it could be down to Evras choice. He has a year left so the ball is in his court. At 32, it might make sense from his perspective. He goes out at the top and gets his retirement "pension" contract back home in France.
From our position, we were reportedly prepared to offer him a contract extension in March, not much would have changed since so it could be down to Evras choice. He has a year left so the ball is in his court. At 32, it might make sense from his perspective. He goes out at the top and gets his retirement "pension" contract back home in France.
The thing is with young players you almost have to go this route, they will make mistakes because they are young and inexperience, time and games are the only way to overcome that.
What would be the objection to Anderson going somewhere?
I'd vote against casting off Evra, but I suppose from his perspective it might make a lot of sense. He's won it all with United and now that he's on the backstretch of his career a move to Monaco wouldn't be all that irrational for him.
And of course we all know of Moyes' admiration of Baines.
Hmm this would make sense if we really are bringing in Baines/Shaw
The team spirit would take a huge hit in losing Evra I believe.
I get how this move could make sense, but seriously, feck sense. Patrice Evra is a leader on and off the pitch. I actually think he's more influential than Vidic, when it comes to team spirit and spurring the team on.
I love them man and hope he retires a United legend. For me, no amount of money will make up for losing him at a crucial time. A time when a new manager takes over can be make or break for a team and having characters like Evra, will help the players and the new manager.
feck off Monaco.
P.s. Thanks Top. (I'm assuming it was Top, if not, thanks to whoever it was.)
I love them man and hope he retires a United legend. For me, no amount of money will make up for losing him at a crucial time. A time when a new manager takes over can be make or break for a team and having characters like Evra, will help the players and the new manager.
feck off Monaco.
P.s. Thanks Top. (I'm assuming it was Top, if not, thanks to whoever it was.)
What he said.
feck off Monaco, he's our Paddy.
feck off Monaco, he's our Paddy.
There might be some leg to this rumor. I remember the kitman mention during the end of the season awards ceremony that Patrice only stayed at United because of Sir Alex or he would have left already.
To be honest, I wouldn't mind if this was true. An upgrade on the left back position won't be the worst thing in the world. The jury is still out on Fabio and his injury problems. In addition, he is right footed and all our options on the left are right footed (besides Giggs but he hardly plays there anymore). A younger player will only make us better defensively. Though I rather we go for Luke Shaw than Baines.
The only worry is, are these too many changes too soon? My opinion is that they are not. We still have Carrick, Rafael, Vidic, Evans, Ferdinand, Valencia & Van Persie as the core of our team. Jones, Smalling, De Gea, Welbeck, Hernandez, Cleverley, Young have been here for more than 2 years. We would be fine if this was true.
To be honest, I wouldn't mind if this was true. An upgrade on the left back position won't be the worst thing in the world. The jury is still out on Fabio and his injury problems. In addition, he is right footed and all our options on the left are right footed (besides Giggs but he hardly plays there anymore). A younger player will only make us better defensively. Though I rather we go for Luke Shaw than Baines.
The only worry is, are these too many changes too soon? My opinion is that they are not. We still have Carrick, Rafael, Vidic, Evans, Ferdinand, Valencia & Van Persie as the core of our team. Jones, Smalling, De Gea, Welbeck, Hernandez, Cleverley, Young have been here for more than 2 years. We would be fine if this was true.
Is everyone forgetting we have Fabio?
I'd hate to loose Evra but is Fabio ready with Butman as backup?
I'd hate to loose Evra but is Fabio ready with Butman as backup?
No way should we start the season with these 2 as our left backs. Buttner is not good enough, and we can't really say about Fabio, plus he's injured as much as Anderson.
If Evra goes then Baines / Coentrao has to come.
Baines does make sense although Coentrao would be my preference.
Baines obviously gets on with Moyes, is English, is PL proven and one of the best in the league. Also he isn't too young that it would spell doom for Fabio if he came.
The same was said of Rafael at the start of this season. Funny how people have short memories. A run of games would allow for Fabio's conditioning to improve, meaning fewer injuries. The same goes for Anderson.
We did have an alternative route, when buying Vidic, Evra, and Carrick. Our savior, Le King, was bought with this alternative route. Others like Stam, Andy Cole, and Ferdinand are also in this route. A route of buying players with immense potential, and don't need much time to reach their highest level.
And the ratio of success (players that eventually 'make it) between buying young players and buying 'close to peak' players are about equal. The vast difference in 'mistakes duration' surely favor of using this alternative route, instead of buying them so young.
In the past, this buying young route does make sense for various reasons. Nowadays, the wage difference between senior and young (but good) players isn't that much, we are big club that can pay good wages, and players have no sense of attachment/pride to the club that develop them. They'll easily move clubs if others can offer more (in terms of financial, prestige, and trophies).
I'd hate to see Pat go but if Baines is coming then he may feel the writing is on the wall for him.
At 32 years old Evra's speed and stamina is set to decline. If his heart is set to Monaco then we should sell.
Shaw, Buttner, Jones and the twins can do the job on the rear flanks.
Shaw, Buttner, Jones and the twins can do the job on the rear flanks.
Not convinced by Buttner at left back. If Evra goes, and I think it's a big if, we would need to bring in another as although i think he has the talent Fabio has such a sketchy injury record. I'd like Shaw personally - bit of a gamble but the kid played 25 games for Southampton last year aged 17. He's going to be really good.
We do then have the likes of Buttner, Evans and even Giggs who could fill in for us in an emergency.
We do then have the likes of Buttner, Evans and even Giggs who could fill in for us in an emergency.
Rafael had a lot more playing time and was more proven than Fabio. We also had Jones and Smalling for cover.
On the left, we'd have Buttner and Fabio, it would be a huge risk.
We would have 3 full backs competing for a first team place (Buttner, Fabio and Shaw). That's not bad isn't it? If we dont believe that Fabio can play an entire season without breaking in pieces then why should we keep him in the first place?
More playing time, yes. More proven, no. Fabio played a Champions League final don't forget.
I'm not saying sell Evra and at the core of it, I agree with your point but Fabio is a lot better and reliable than you are making out.
Don't think Fabio's place in that team was a reflection on who the better of the two was. As the only fit natural full back, he had to play.
Rafa had played a heck of a lot more than his brother in the previous two seasons and most tipped him to remain the most frequently used of the two given the way he hit the ground running.
I'd love Baines here myself but he will cost near 20 million which would be daft ck sideri g Fabio was shown in the past he has it in him to be a starter here.
what on earth happened here?
I could understand Baines but what is the point signing Shaw when we have Fabio?
I wouldn't like to see Evra go. He's one of the biggest characters at the club and a leader on and off the pitch. Ive said it before, as little upheaval as possible is required during this post-SAF phase. I also have concerns in bringing several CL inexperienced players.
Unfortunately I can see Evra leaving, Albert Morgans comments about him only staying for SAF is a tad concerning
I wouldn't like to see Evra go. He's one of the biggest characters at the club and a leader on and off the pitch. Ive said it before, as little upheaval as possible is required during this post-SAF phase. I also have concerns in bringing several CL inexperienced players.
Unfortunately I can see Evra leaving, Albert Morgans comments about him only staying for SAF is a tad concerning
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His influence off field and his impact on he dressing room will be much tougher to replace than his actual qualities as a Lb. This has always been my biggest concern with saf Leaving. Scholes, Rooney, evra are 3 big players to lose on And off he field(If the later 2 go).
It'd obviously make a lot of sense from A business pov but i'd just hate to see evra leave.
It'd obviously make a lot of sense from A business pov but i'd just hate to see evra leave.
He's wanted to leave at least twice? So i don't think he's to devoted to the club as some people think.
He's a good talker though. Compare to Rooney, he speaks highly of the club and what it means to be here quite often. Now that might be fake, but he makes the effort.
A lot of people seem to think we have already signed Shaw 
Fabio played ahead of Fabio quite a few times throughout the season.
That season yes, a few times. Prior to that season and after that season, nay.
No, he was very bad last season, and the season before. You are right, however, about this season. A real return to form.
Age can mean feck all. Players are individuals and their ability will fade when their biological clock says so.
I wouldn't be that disappointed if he did leave. If we get a big enough offer, then I'd sell him, provided that we had someone coming in to replace him. I still have high hopes for Fabio, but he can still make a name for himself and he can play either side so he can still get plenty of games.
Tough one, at 32 his best years are slipping away quickly, BUT he is still a winner, may still be key to our transition and still has plenty to offer, best season in 3 seasons. However, maybe that is a good reason to sell. Get the most for him while he can and avoid a return to last couple of seasons form.
I dont think we can afford to let senior players leave considering the big changes occuring this coming season. Evra will be even more important. Selling might make sense from a bussiness perspective but from a club perspective it'd be a grave error.
Baines is definitely an upgrade over Evra(the current one).
2012-2013 was better than the two seasons before that for paddy. but i would not mind letting go off evra if we can get baines.
baines and fabio. looks good to me
2012-2013 was better than the two seasons before that for paddy. but i would not mind letting go off evra if we can get baines.
baines and fabio. looks good to me