Pathetic fans booing Maguire

I do think he lacks self awareness for some of the things he's said in interviews, but booing him is pointless. Booing our own players is not going to help them perform. The environment around Maguire is too toxic. I think he should leave for his own good. The fans don't support him. I don't think there is anything he can do to fix that.
 
duffer said:
Only time I would personally boo a Chelsea or England player is if I thought there was a clear lack of effort. Being shit isn't boo-worthy.
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What if the player is being shit due to lack of effort.
 
CloneMC16 said:
I do think he lacks self awareness for some of the things he's said in interviews, but booing him is pointless. Booing our own players is not going to help them perform. The environment around Maguire is too toxic. I think he should leave for his own good. The fans don't support him. I don't think there is anything he can do to fix that.
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It's face saving, you can tell. The abuse definitely affects him. You can see it in games where it's almost like he knows if he makes an error he's getting jumped on.

Tbh I would just keep quiet and keep my head down. Although due to the levels he gets I would also be tempted to tell the fans to go f**k themselves. Everyone has a breaking point.

If anything he's almost too self aware.
 
Whats all the fuss is about?

There’ll always be an element of “fans“ who pretend to act Billy Big Bollocks ….they’d boo their own mother.

Truth is if they were to meet Maguire in the street they’d likely piss their pants with excitement before begging for his autograph.
 
At this point in his career he has no way of avoiding abuse. Whatever he does will draw criticism and that will continue even after he leaves United. It's quite baffling to me, and I'm still not sure what he's done to deserve any of it.
 
He's meek and you can tell in his face when things are about to go tits up. He has very little confidence despite the media bravado and I doubt this sort of thing does anything to help anyone. I can't help but feel sorry for him.

He was good for the first couple of years before the pressure took it's toll and stumbling in your career is not really a reason to abuse the bloke. Hopefully he goes on to a decent club and has a bit of a resurgence.

We've got this weird permanently online fanbase full of dweebs and daft lads who are desperate for likes and will spread any old shit to get a cheap laugh. It's weird to see it seep into the real world so much and it is just depressing, especially when many of them will happily go to bat for, let's say, more unsavoury characters.
 
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Booing your own player is plain idiotic. It's bullying, plain and simple, with no upside. It's also really cowardly as you're hiding behind a football crowd to do it, safe in the knowledge that the victim can do nothing about it.
 
Its wrong but I dont think you should let it affect your game as the 'fan' has won. The idiots would only do it more if it does affect you.
Beckham had it bad and it never affected him. Gradually it died down as they knew it wasnt having an affect. I think a good player just shuts out the noise.
I was going to games in the 70s and the first black players were always mocked relentlessly, but never put them off their game from what I could see.
 
I feel bad for him, we live in an era where social media plays such a big part in painting players in a bad light with memes etc.., Harry has had some nightmare games but he has never been unprofessional at the club and deserves respect (not praise) for at least trying his best at the club, he just not fit for a club of our size but doesn't deserve boo's as if he has asked to move to man City or Liverpool
 
To put it into perspective, most fans/season ticket holders spend a big proportion of their income and time on attending games. At the very minimum, a player is expected to give it all they have for 90 mins.

I wouldn't boo myself, but I understand why people do. To a lot of fans, their whole working week is building up to match day, it's what their life revolves around. To then see a player put in minimal effort/poor performances - then go to Twitter and say the same recycled excuse. Or in Maguire's case 'I don't need to prove myself' & cupping his ears after scoring against Andorra, while still picking up £200k a week... A lot of match going fans put in more effort getting to the ground than a player will give you on match day. So Yeah I totally understand the frustration and fans are well within their right to do that.
 
Matty7 said:
To put it into perspective, most fans/season ticket holders spend a big proportion of their income and time on attending games. At the very minimum, a player is expected to give it all they have for 90 mins.

I wouldn't boo myself, but I understand why people do. To a lot of fans, their whole working week is building up to match day, it's what their life revolves around. To then see a player put in minimal effort/poor performances - then go to Twitter and say the same recycled excuse. Or in Maguire's case 'I don't need to prove myself' & cupping his ears after scoring against Andorra, while still picking up £200k a week... A lot of match going fans put in more effort getting to the ground than a player will give you on match day. So Yeah I totally understand the frustration and fans are well within their right to do that.
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They should boo Ten Hag for picking him if they want to boo anyone. What’s the guy to do, refuse to play because he’s in poor form?

He gives 100% effort every game, I don’t doubt that, its just he’s taken Jones’ abuse from him as the punch bag of the team.
 
Ollie Derbyshire said:
They should boo Ten Hag for picking him if they want to boo anyone. What’s the guy to do, refuse to play because he’s in poor form?

He gives 100% effort every game, I don’t doubt that, its just he’s taken Jones’ abuse from him as the punch bag of the team.
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I get that, Ten Hag is the one picking him. But Maguire doesn't help himself with what he says off the pitch. He was the captain, he should be leading by example. Not saying he should be booed, but he makes himself a target with his comments.
 
Matty7 said:
I get that, Ten Hag is the one picking him. But Maguire doesn't help himself with what he says off the pitch. He was the captain, he should be leading by example. Not saying he should be booed, but he makes himself a target with his comments.
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Agreed, when in bad times I’d go with head down, work hard and get through it.
 
Ollie Derbyshire said:
They should boo Ten Hag for picking him if they want to boo anyone. What’s the guy to do, refuse to play because he’s in poor form?

He gives 100% effort every game, I don’t doubt that, its just he’s taken Jones’ abuse from him as the punch bag of the team.
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IMO if supporters boo a player then they’re showing their disapproval for that player being selected and are therefore clearly sending a message of disapproval to the manager who selected said player.

Never been a boo boy myself but I can understand why a hard working bloke on minimum wage would boo a player on £200,000 a week for not being arsed enough to make an effort.
 
BobFromParva said:
IMO if supporters boo a player then they’re showing their disapproval for that player being selected and are therefore clearly sending a message of disapproval to the manager who selected said player.

Never been a boo boy myself but I can understand why a hard working bloke on minimum wage would boo a player on £200,000 a week for not being arsed enough to make an effort.
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But which players aren’t making an effort? Boo’ing players leads to more mistakes which leads to more boo’ing, just a vicious cycle.

Now booing the team when we get dicked by 7 or 6 by Liverpool or City is fine with me cause the mentality isn’t there that day and they shouldn’t be letting that happen. As a team they have let the fans down.
 
Tango80 said:
It's face saving, you can tell. The abuse definitely affects him. You can see it in games where it's almost like he knows if he makes an error he's getting jumped on.

Tbh I would just keep quiet and keep my head down. Although due to the levels he gets I would also be tempted to tell the fans to go f**k themselves. Everyone has a breaking point.

If anything he's almost too self aware.
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Problem is it made him look like an arsehole. You can't say that you have nothing to prove when you have won nothing, and are costing the team goals every other week.

Laying low would be a better strategy than saying anything to the media. I get it must be hard to endure it from your own fans. It's worse now because his actual performances don't matter. The fans will treat him the same way.

This is why he should leave and get a fresh start at a new club.
 
Ollie Derbyshire said:
But which players aren’t making an effort? Boo’ing players leads to more mistakes which leads to more boo’ing, just a vicious cycle.

Now booing the team when we get dicked by 7 or 6 by Liverpool or City is fine with me cause the mentality isn’t there that day and they shouldn’t be letting that happen. As a team they have let the fans down.
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In Maguire‘s case, I think the booing is a message of disgust by fans who care.

IMO they’re not specifically mad at Maguire, more mad that their club made him the most expensive defender on the planet and paid him a salary that makes him practically unsellable for even half what was paid for him and then found that he doesn’t have the basic attributes to play expansive possession football.
They’re mad at the clubs management, for acting in a manner adverse to success and for consequently making them and the club look daft, and that’s their way to show it, especially when he lumbers around looking generally pleased with himself while making not a lot of notable effort.
Add in the pissed up brawling in Greece and the comical nonsense he was spouting about Albanian mafia, and that cock & bull story about his violent behaviour being retribution for his sister being injected with drugs, and I think they’re just generally miffed about the whole shebang.

My view? Well I don’t think that he’s a particularly likeable character though I do see him as a genuinely very good player in the right system.
I recon that at the time of purchase he was probably worth more like £55 million and a salary of £100kpw tops, but I don’t think that his initial whacky valuation was his fault but his £10 million+ per annum salary probably takes the sting out of the booing issue for him . .
a small fraction of that income sure would for me.
I also think that he’s a bit of a nob but that he shares common ground there with most lads in their mid-20’s (me included back in the day).

Would I boo him? Nope. But I don’t have an issue with supporters booing him if they feel it appropriate. They pay their money to be able to make their feelings known in a football ground so them expressing their feelings is, to my mind, entirely appropriate whether you or I like it or not.
And it’s not like he’s only been booed by Americans on your US tour, iirc he’s also been booed in old Trafford by home supporters a number of times previously and I could well be the case that the US supporters booing him was considered acceptable or indeed expected behaviour by them following them noting the examples of booing him made by his home supporters.

All a storm in a teacup though, as IMO he’ll be sold in this window or the next and everyone will move on as your squad continues to improve both player wise and tactically.
 
There's no need to try and justify idiotic booing of a player.

It's stupid behavior. Yes, even if you bought a ticket. It doesn't do any good to the player (who plays for your team) or the team you're there to support.
 
I'm more concerned about why Maguire was signed in the first place, especially for an extortionate fee, and getting to the bottom of why he is still at the club. The sooner he is gone the better.
 
Social media brain rot has fans making any enemy out of someone representing the club who hasn't done anything wrong. Ten Hag isn't being forced to play him and probably won't unless we have an injury crisis. Why the hatred?
 
sdb4884 said:
I wouldn't boo Maguire at the ground but there is no way in hell he should still be playing for us.
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Would you just boo him in the street?
 
Save the booing for Glazers when they attend game. That's the real problem there for the club.
 
Its pathetic no matter what you think of his performances. Idiots wanting a piece of social media trends.
 
Never boo a player who's trying his best.

If they're visibly not putting in any effort, that's another story.

Maguire didn't asked to be targetted by United, that was Jose. Maguire didn't ask to be bought for £80m, that was Woodward. And Maguire didn't ask to be slow, that was genetic.

You achieve nothing by booing, other than ruining his confidence and making him radioactive on the transfer market - both of which hurt the club.
 
One question to everyone, what if we were winning 1-0 in this seasons UCL final, ETH throws him on to help defend the last few minutes and he ends up doing something stupid like gifting a chance to the opposition which they then score in the 87min to level 1-1, then just as you were trying to get that out of your system in the 93rd min he scores an own goal to complete the turn around for the opposition...

Would it be justified to boo him after that!?
 
izak said:
One question to everyone, what if we were winning 1-0 in this seasons UCL final, ETH throws him on to help defend the last few minutes and he ends up doing something stupid like gifting a chance to the opposition which they then score in the 87min to level 1-1, then just as you were trying to get that out of your system in the 93rd min he scores an own goal to complete the turn around for the opposition...

Would it be justified to boo him after that!?
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Or, like what if he broke into your house at night time and took a dump in your toilet cistern, so every time you flushed, poo water came out. Would it be justified under those circumstances to boo him? I think so.
 
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