So assuming Smalling and McNair were both fit and we were playing Chelsea tomorrow, you would go with McNair over Smalling?
In current form, yes. Smalling has been God awful.
I couldn't care less if he's a senior player.
So assuming Smalling and McNair were both fit and we were playing Chelsea tomorrow, you would go with McNair over Smalling?
Indeed, playing international football can only be a good thing for him. He has a chance of playing as well, Northern Ireland are missing both Evans and Craig Cathcart I believe.Its been an amazing month for him considering he only made his u21 debut for Northern Ireland less than a month ago
Yet you fail to quote the post where someone more or less says he's most likely a Protestant so he will stay with them ums.
I understand that players want to play for the South but you can't blame Northern Ireland fans for getting pissed off when they see posts like that.
You can't compare Alex Bruce to the players we have lostIts Ramshock though. He's on a wind up as per usual.
The poster that responded is talking out his arse. FAI poached no one. If a player declares for the Republic they'll pursue it if they deem them good enough, simple as that.
Alex Bruce plays for NI now. Should I have a rant about that?
Smalling has started twice this season. Came off the bench vs Leicester (was poor) but he's been injured otherwise. Not just the fact he's a senior player but it's because I think he's a decent CB and not terrible.In current form, yes. Smalling has been God awful.
I couldn't care less if he's a senior player.
Smalling has started twice this season. Came off the bench vs Leicester (was poor) but he's been injured otherwise. Not just the fact he's a senior player but it's because I think he's a decent CB and not terrible.
You can't compare Alex Bruce to the players we have lost
I'm not going to get into it here but you say that the FAI have poached no one? Surely you don't believe that.
This. This place is pathetic at times.Fantastic stuff, something about watching an emerging centre-half, great to see. For the tools ready to ditch Evans and Smalling on the back of those two performances, well...I can't find the words at the moment.
Anyone born in the North has dual citizenship so is eligible to play for the Republic as far as I know. Hes not going to switch allegiances though
Paddy from Ballyclare.
Maybe the FAI could actually put some money into their own youth teams, rather than scouting Northern Irish teams and approaching players based on their name/school.
Utterly disgraceful the way they act.
Fantastic to hear Getsme!
Sorry misread your post thought it said he could only play for the IFA not wouldI do know that
Its Ramshock though. He's on a wind up as per usual.
The poster that responded is talking out his arse. FAI poached no one. If a player declares for the Republic they'll pursue it if they deem them good enough, simple as that.
Alex Bruce plays for NI now. Should I have a rant about that?
Its been an amazing month for him considering he only made his u21 debut for Northern Ireland less than a month ago
It happens.Agree re. thread. Not sure theres a suitable one out there though....
And yes for the record I do believe it.
Shane Duffy: "When I was a young lad growing up all I ever wanted to do was play for Ireland, nothing else. My heroes were Paul McGrath, Roy Keane and Robbie Keane. Nobody from Ireland ever got in touch with me when I was younger. I was part of the Northern Ireland squad, but when Liam Brady phoned me up to ask me to play for Ireland there was never a chance I was going to say no."
Eunan OKane: "I was given the option that if I was interested in playing for the republic then there were opportunities to do that. People got in touch with me who had been speaking to Noel King, the [Republic of Ireland] under-21 manager, and he had asked questions about me and they then relayed that back to me. They made it clear he was interested in speaking to me if I was interested in speaking to him, and it has gone from there. We spoke on the phone and we then met up."
.Marc Wilson: "...The FAI approached me two years later and that was me settled. I was never going to play for Northern Ireland
Daniel Kearns: “The [Republic] Under-17 manager at the time was Sean McCaffrey, who I really liked. It was strange and kind of random one day – when I was at West Ham I just got a call out of the blue from Sean, asking if I fancied joining up with his squad. As soon as I chatted to him, about his team and his views, it was something I was really interested in.”
Indeed. It's been an amazing couple of years for him if you think about it. I still can't quite wrap my head around how it's possible to go through the physical and positional changes he's gone through since he was 17 and not look out of place in United's starting XI at 19.
Yeah especially since its only a year ago that he was looking somewhat out of his depth playing as a centre half in the under 19s Champions League and getting sent off. His all round development in the past year has been very impressive and I think Warren Joyce deserves a lot of creditIndeed. It's been an amazing couple of years for him if you think about it. I still can't quite wrap my head around how it's possible to go through the physical and positional changes he's gone through since he was 17 and not look out of place in United's starting XI at 19.
Sorry misread your post thought it said he could only play for the IFA not would
It happens.
As I said I understand that players will want to play for the ROI, I get that, I think it's an unfair loophole that the Republic have, but it's their right to abuse it as much as they want. However, what I can't stand is people looking at a players religion to see if he will opt for the ROI. As for young McNair, I have no idea what religion he is, nor do I care.
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Most of the players who have opted for the ROI have played underage football for Northern Ireland. As I said, I have no issue with it as it is the rules, however those players had no issue playing for Northern Ireland when they were younger. It wasn't until they had become a relative success or they had been approached by FAI scouts that they decided to switch allegiance.How's it unfair? That's a very narrow minded statement. If a person feels Irish they should have the right to play for the republic. I only feel sympathy when someone changes their allegiances after playing for one country the entire way up until senior.
He wasnt even getting regular U21 action either. So LvG saw something Warren Joyce and Paul McGuinness couldnt see
He wasnt even getting regular U21 action either. So LvG saw something Warren Joyce and Paul McGuinness couldnt see
Yeah especially since its only a year ago that he was looking somewhat out of his depth playing as a centre half in the under 19s Champions League and getting sent off. His all round development in the past year has been very impressive and I think Warren Joyce deserves a lot of credit
Its Ramshock though. He's on a wind up as per usual.
The poster that responded is talking out his arse. FAI poached no one. If a player declares for the Republic they'll pursue it if they deem them good enough, simple as that.
Alex Bruce plays for NI now. Should I have a rant about that?
To a certain extent I'd agree, however Jones is the better player at the moment and would be better suited for the game against Chelsea. Saying that, many didn't think McNair would cope against Lukaku and he had him in his pocket the entire game.Id continue to start him, at the moment we don't have any senior CBs so i see no reason to bring Smalling/Jones ahead of him considering theyre also unproven.
I still have some faith in Evans ability but not on him consistently displaying it
Theres a huge United connection in the Northern Irish squad at the moment with Carroll, Cathcart, McCullough, the two Evans, Norwood and McNair and Croskery and Jordan Thompson in the under 19s and Lewis Thompson played for the under 16s last monthNo problems. Him and Evans would make a good pairing if Evans stayed fit.
Indeed. I have high hopes for Norwood, never good enough for United but he has a lethal foot on him. Now young McNair could be our main CB for years to come alongside Evans.Theres a huge United connection in the Northern Irish squad at the moment with Carroll, Cathcart, McCullough, the two Evans, Norwood and McNair and Croskery and Jordan Thompson in the under 19s and Lewis Thompson played for the under 16s last month
Indeed. I have high hopes for Norwood, never good enough for United but he has a lethal foot on him. Now young McNair could be our main CB for years to come alongside Evans.
Utter bullshit. I know that the FAI have been in attendance at IFA Youth Games on the basis that they are scouting out potential players.
And you can have Bruce back if you wish, I mean, it isn't like the FAI haven't done the same thing *Cough* Adam Barton *Cough*
I was talking about Northern Ireland.Alongside someone else maybe. Not Evans.
Theres a huge United connection in the Northern Irish squad at the moment with Carroll, Cathcart, McCullough, the two Evans, Norwood and McNair and Croskery and Jordan Thompson in the under 19s and Lewis Thompson played for the under 16s last month
Totally the other way round.McGuinness's decision to make him a CB has saved his career.He couldn't compete with the likes of Pearson,Rothwell,Weir,... further on the pitch.Joyce played him almost every game in the second half of last season and he has improved a lot during that period.
Hmm another live one. You lot need to read up on shit and stop screaming from the same gospel sheet. Also get something for your cough
I was talking about Northern Ireland.
It's true, look at Getsme's post earlier on the page. I know people who have worked with youth players from both Irish League and youth football who confirm the same thing. Scout the players then drop a line to see if they are interested.
Who played at CB before him then Keane and?
Thorpe and Keane then Keane went on loan and McNair took over the starting role since then (Love played CB for a few matches as well)
They have every right to. The IFA have no ground to stand on. Your argument about the FAI not spending money on youth development was wrong. They have 12 full time centres to the NI's 4 and those arent full time. The passport and citizenship issue is somewhat a unique situation and any kid born in North can choose to play for South if they so wish its just the way it is.
I was taking the piss about how the FAI approach Northern Irish youth players.
What they are doing is morally wrong, they are abusing this totally unique situation to their own advantage, how many players from Northern Ireland actually end up playing for the Republic of Ireland?
I believe that the FAI would be happy enough to continue their sectarian head selection of Northern Irish players because it gives them an advantage. I've yet to see anything otherwise.
When the IFA are trying to make a more nonsectarian atmosphere around football the FAI are doing their best to stop them.
But anywho, I'll be at Windsor on Saturday hopefully seeing young McNair make his debut.
Apart from air duels he managed to block him few times without a foul.He didn't really engage him physically did he? Everton played may be 2 crosses onto Lukaku's head but McNair was pretty much doing his job before Lukaku even got the ball. He was showing Lukaku where to receive the ball and got in ahead to take it away. Just a brilliant performance.