Dembele was never good as Sancho?
People have very short memories.
This kid was on another planet before he went off the radar.
Ousmane Dembele
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People have very short memories.
This kid was on another planet before he went off the radar.
I think you need to read Ryan’s quote, as he’s saying he did and you’re contradicting his words! But feel free to carry on if you know better!
Good point on Martial and Pogba. Also Ole seems to be rather good with talented young players that lost motivation for one reason Mourinho or another.
He definitely wasn't.
Objectively, Dembele was never on another planet compared to Sancho.
Sancho has likely out-performed him if we compare their Dortmund careers.
All about opinions I guess. But the way people talk about Sancho is so over hyped.
Wrong. His last season for Dortmund: Played 49 games, scored 10, assisted 21.
He was absolutely great and I still think he is if he manages to stay injury free.
I mean I am pretty sure no one else has that opinion of Dembele. So you can't talk about Sancho being overhyped, when you claim Dembele was on another planet to him.
But if you feel that way, fair enough. Maybe we get him and he has a chance to show his worth.
Sancho was the smokescreen for Dembele.
I was only comparing league, but if we are doing totals then Sancho has 20 goals and 20 assists.
He may have been good, but the person I was replying to was saying he was much better than Sancho. Really doubtful.
I don’t think there is a need for scouts if we only use goals and assists to define a player ability
If he doesn't want to leave Barcelona and would have be forced to come to United I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. This guy has shown in Dortmund that he has no professionalism and would do about anything to get his way. Inlcuding going on strike or disappearing completely. This guy is a poison chalice.
OK So I decided to go check the actual stats, the seasons where he seems to have been most affect by injuries are 96/97, 98/99, where he played 26/24 of the 38 league games (note he still played 37 and 41 games in those seasons). This is for PL only, as we cannot tell a great deal from cups due to the way we played them at times, also its not certain that him missing games is down to injury but I will assume so for the stats.
in 96/97 he missed the first game played the first 7 games was out for 3, came back played 1, missed one then played 18 games before missing the last games to the end of the season
98/99 - 2 in, 1 out, 3 in, 1 out, 2 in, 4 out, 11 in, 1 out, 6 in, 5 out, 2 in
So arguably yes in 98/99 he had a particularly bad season, but again he still played over 40 games that year.
Again Ryan's quotes talk about him suffering from multiple hamstring injuries, not the frequency or gaps between. So it is not incongruous with what I have said, or shown. 98/99 seems to have been his worst period where you could make an argument his injury woes were "similar" to Dembele (i.e. being in for a period then out), yet he made 41 appearances still.
If Ole decides this is our transfer direction then so be it, if he turns out to be a genius player then great, I guess I can't argue with it. Has Dembele ever show anything in his recent record or attitude to suggest he has it in him? Does he want to come to United, those are the things that concern me when we will be spending in the region of £20 million for a year of him.
OusmON Dembele!
Why do we necessarily have a world-class player?
He had all the potential at Dortmund. Hence, why Barcelona decided to spend so big on him. However, he has failed to show anything for Barca or France over the past few seasons to suggest he is anything near a top class talent. Injuries haven't helped, but I don't believe in acquiring injury prone players. Add in the poor performances, bad conduct over training. What is there to suggest he could be a decent player for us? His youthful age and his past hype?
All that is likely to play against us. If he scored 10 goals over the season, we would no doubt pay a daft fee to acquire him despite all the issues that have plagued his Barca career likely to still be around.
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Sounds like Manchester to me, the writings on the wall.
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I see him as the best alternative to Jadon around and clearly still looks a top player despite the injuries,however as many have said I do have major concerns that he's not all that keen on joining and being forced out a la Di Maria.
Listen IF we could get the player who stayed fit for Dortmund and really ripped it up then it's a no brainer but big risk no doubt.
Listen IF we could get the player who stayed fit for Dortmund and really ripped it up then it's a no brainer but big risk no doubt.
Let's be real, we won't sign anyone and will be stuck with Daniel James as the back up.
To me, Sancho never displayed the drilling ability or the lightning pace that Dembele showed at Dortmund, some other member posted a youtube compilation of him like 2 pages ago where you can see how easily he used to glide past players in a manner that only a few players in the world can, for me he is in top 5 dribblers in the world.
Also, he is 2 footed and you can see how much that matters when you look at Greenwood. Dembele is also a much better finisher, regardless of that missed chance against Liverpool.
If he comes here and stays fit will have the same impact in the league that Hazard did, only that he's more talented and can become twice the player that Hazard is. But, of course, that is a BIG, BIG IF.
No way do I allow myself to believe that until the window closes on Monday night
It's not your money though is it,Sid ! Is it!!
Believeeeee it! Then you won't be disappointed when nothing happens.
Not a chance I am staying optimistic
If he doesn’t want to come, leave him there. No point forcing a player whose heart isn’t going to be here once he lands in Manchester
Just sounds like a total recipe for disaster. Doesn't want to be here and injury prone. Brilliant.
Yeah I can't disagree with that,we have already seen what happens before with players brought in that way
I think it's safe to say that this will end well.
Romano loves the attention.
Looks like it might happen this one.
Once we sign him he will reveal that he was a Manchester United fan all along
It’s like we’ve taken everything that hasn’t worked about every flop we’ve ever had, put them into a Venn diagram and decided to sign the only player that meets every criteria.
What? Flopped at another big club? Attitude problems? Not really keen on signing? Injury prone? That’s exactly why it’s going to work out against all odds.
Only way this could work out is him staying fit and a pep talk from our french connection
This is such an infuriating transfer.
An injury-ravaged player with attitude problems who doesn't want to be here yet we still want him? How is this happening? How is Solskjaer not kicking down Woodward's door and headbutting him into submission?
An injury-ravaged player with attitude problems who doesn't want to be here yet we still want him? How is this happening? How is Solskjaer not kicking down Woodward's door and headbutting him into submission?
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