We should have signed him.
Ousmane Dembele
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Would not take him on a free. Avoid avoid avoid.
Just for the craic. This is woeful stuff though.
I didn't remember he had another chance against Liverpool. The idiot.
He’s got some tools. Speed, dribbling, 2 footed etc all are reliant on being tip top physically. He’s a busted flush. He’s obviously not going to say to Barca yes my performances are only worth 1/2 of what I’m currently on, sorry about that. He’s most likely just looking to leave and start again (with a massive sign on bonus somewhere) or get overpaid to spare Barca the embarrassment of letting such an expensive player go on a free.
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You'd have to admit seeing that video that in spite of his finishing looking like Bebe's, he can be a deadly player for the club that signs him. There is clear potential to see, provided his attitude improves and he stays injury free. At 150k wage / week, it'd be worth a shot - at 400k, sorry.
He would fit in well with our French divas.
This thread still running on fumes?
Barcelona are absolute tools and hypocrites. They are happy for the likes of Memphis, Garcia and Aguero to run their contracts down elsewhere before joining them but treat Dembele like some sort of criminal for completing his.
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To be fair, if I was Barcelona I’d feel slightly sh*tty towards him aswell. Due to constant injuries He literally cost them £1m per appearance plus wages (roughly £45m over 4 years), and has contributed very little for the cost. Although not completely dembeles fault, to ask for even more wages just feels a bit cheeky, especially when it’s been frequently reported that he’s not the most professional. I’d feel I’d be due some kind of refund from him but that’s the way football goes now. Technically hasn’t done anything wrong, and football is a business and a job, just feel there’s a value of ethic missing
To be fair, if I was Barcelona I’d feel slightly sh*tty towards him aswell. Due to constant injuries He literally cost them £1m per appearance plus wages (roughly £45m over 4 years), and has contributed very little for the cost. Although not completely dembeles fault, to ask for even more wages just feels a bit cheeky, especially when it’s been frequently reported that he’s not the most professional. I’d feel I’d be due some kind of refund from him but that’s the way football goes now. Technically hasn’t done anything wrong, and football is a business and a job, just feel there’s a value of ethic missing
I read Ansu Fati just injured (again) his right knee in the Copa match vs Athletic Bilbao... Is it like his 6th injury at only 19 yo? Poor guy, sadly, I think his body won't make it for professional football.
Barca's new board have taken very bad decisions lately... It's OK being mad at Dembele due to his poor performances and health endurance, but crying out loud in the media that he is gonna be benched if he doesn't sign an extension can clearly be interpreted as an inhibitory act... I wouldn't be surprised if the agent sues the club and demands damages for breach of contract... Not only that, but with Fati's injury, wouldn't it make sense to use Dembele? Even if he is not considered for the future, you have to bring solutions immediately and right now he is available.
This is one of the reasons Florentino Perez at Madrid stays quiet about Bale. Once Bale's contract expires it will become another's burden.
And watch out for Ferran Torres, that kid is also injury prone, just like Pedri...
Barca's new board have taken very bad decisions lately... It's OK being mad at Dembele due to his poor performances and health endurance, but crying out loud in the media that he is gonna be benched if he doesn't sign an extension can clearly be interpreted as an inhibitory act... I wouldn't be surprised if the agent sues the club and demands damages for breach of contract... Not only that, but with Fati's injury, wouldn't it make sense to use Dembele? Even if he is not considered for the future, you have to bring solutions immediately and right now he is available.
This is one of the reasons Florentino Perez at Madrid stays quiet about Bale. Once Bale's contract expires it will become another's burden.
And watch out for Ferran Torres, that kid is also injury prone, just like Pedri...
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Its Barcelona... they'll make players like Coutinho fake injuries and push moves but when players want to play for Barca, they'll shaft them when it suits them.
It is one club I hate outside of the PL. They think they are above the rules and regulations too, the way they go on about their business.
Granted, the way barcelona went about it was so bad they probably even gave him the kind of ammunition to try, but it's highly unlikely anybody would sue anybody else here. At the end of the day barcelona are under no obligation to play him, the contract only requires them to provide the player with training facilities and coaches to perform his job. Not playing him because he won't sign a new contract is not a breach of contract, at most its mobbing but then you have to prove it and it's simply just not worth it. It's not like this is a unique or isolated case
There is zero risk for any club that needs a winger to take him on loan for the remaining of the season. The question is who needs a winger at the moment? Chelsea? Tuchel worked with him before so it makes sense on paper. It is WC year so Dembele should be motivated to play.
They already got a warning by the Professional Footballers Association in Spain, I don't know if that carries any weight but it's clearly not the way to treat a player, and it's a turn off for other potential transfer targets. It's also illegal and considered coercion or blackmail as Dembele put it. The injury to Fati is only going to make their situation worse if they stick to their guns.
It's really not illegal. Pressuring him with that is a bad look and would naturally get the players union interested, but it's not strictly breaching any contract or labour law as long as they provide him with whatever they're contractually obliged to. Not playing him is a legitimate - i.e. entirely lawful - choice. Again, this happens frequently and very rarely ends before a judge
The issue is not benching him - I'm aware they can do that - but the problem is the explanation the Board gave to the media and how that could be interpreted by a trial court in case Dembele makes a case for blackmailing/coersion. When the termination of his contract is nearby, his agent will surely look very carefully the little details of his contract to obtain a better severance package.
About the possibility of enforcing legal action by the player, honestly, I think it has crossed his mind and would have good grounds to do so, specially if the Club keeps placing him as 'the bad guy'. If Dembele ever plays again at Camp Nou (which I think he will), how do you think fans will receive him? I bet he surely receives a lot of backlash in social media already , so it would make things easier for him and his agent to seek more money.
I think the other cases you pointed out, and I think you even used Bale as an example, were done without the kind of statement the board made about Dembele. I don't know or at least can't recall of a situation where the board explicitly explained he would not play because he refused to renew his contract. This makes it a bit different than trying to argue it is for sporting reason, especially with their lack of options.
Yea i concur. If you told him to just keep doing what he is doing but pass instead of shoot, he looks decent.
Still though his attitude i would question.
The board statement was outrageous but I still doubt they face any consequences. It’s just Dembeles camp trying to save face. As long as they keep paying him there isn’t much to argue about.
That being said; it does go to show that you can’t just make ‘players train with the kids’ or whatever our fans want when Pogba or Rashford is playing poorly.
Great dribbler, can’t shoot to save his life, massively injury prone, overpaid, over values his worth, questionable attitude, mentally weak, still has untapped potential.
Wouldn’t touch with a ten foot pole.
Wouldn’t touch with a ten foot pole.
He can shoot but he is terrible at 1v1.
Talented player, if he goes somewhere with a coach that knows what he's doing and makes him train properly he could kick on.
Naturally that makes him a terrible fit for us, our a great one if Woodward gets to decide.
Naturally that makes him a terrible fit for us, our a great one if Woodward gets to decide.
He really needs to stop holding the O buttton on the controller
No, it's a bit more complicated than that. It's coercion, that can easily be proven. You can also easily argue that you are lowering his already plummeting value by not playing him when he is fit and available and you have injuries at his positions, which hampers his future prospects. This isn't just trying to save face, although it doesn't mean it would go to court, but there's valid reasons to be upset at this sort of treatment, and it's really not a good look for any prospective players thinking of signing a contract at Barcelona.
Dembélé's main issues aren't about training properly, though it doesn't hurt and could do with a good coach. Due to injuries he has never been able to have a long and stable season, despite that he registered a goal or assist every 136 minutes which is pretty good when you consider the negative context. Also his injuries are mainly not niggling injuries which could be linked to lifestyle, he seemingly has a similar issue to Coman, they accelerate a bit too strongly and the hamstring explodes(it's not accurate but that's how it seems).
Now when it comes to United, I wouldn't touch him because our medical staff can barely handle our injury prone players and we seemingly don't have a strong leadership in the locker room which I believe is important when you have characters like Dembélé who needs guidance and attention. On paper I would say that Liverpool, City, Real Madrid and Bayern are the best fit, maybe Juventus.
He would fit our team well. Buy him for 100M.
If you think that the little bitch that is Haaland said he felt unneccessarily "pressured" by Dortmund the other day because they told him they want a decision by him what he'll do in summer.. and that after what his agent and dad have been pulling for the whole of his spell
Liverpool, Juve would be good destinations. Liverpool better than Juve. But no PSG?
I don't see PSG as a good fit for Dembélé, I could be wrong but it's sink or swim kind of environment and he doesn't want the scrutiny of french media, in fact I apply that to all top french players.
Liverpool have probably the greatest need, but they won't pay him what he'd want. City and Bayern have a ton of wide players, so PSG would probably be the best fit when the Mbappe to Real transfer happens. Though between him, Messi and Neymar, that's one injury prone front line.
I don't know anything about the medical side of his injuries but there have been players that grow out of it once they hit their prime. Something a top coach with a good medical team would consider in depth.
Good thing we have so few of them.
To be clear, I'm not predicting where he will go or where he should go but the kind of environment that could see him not ruin his career.
Good thing we have so few of them.
I don't know if you agree or disagree. Surely you know what would happen if Dembélé or any top french player went to PSG and had a few poor weeks of Football. Even an all conquering Mbappé is criticized heavily at the first opportunity.
"He didn't score in the past 60 minutes. His head is somewhere else!"
Like when Neville said David Luiz v Germany was like watching a child play PlayStation. Dembele Could be worth a gamble for a settled club with a steady dressing room to focus him and improve him but that’s clearly not us.
I get that.
As for the bolded, even the white ones?
What is that supposed to mean? The player that has been the most targetted in the last decade is white(Giroud) and the french PSG player that has had the most pressure outside of Mbappé was probably Ménez who I believe is white.
Just, jokingly really, fishing based on that I heard or read someone saying the whole package of Rabiot, his performances, his behaviour, the behaviour of his entourage, would have been under much heavier scrutiny had he been black. Obviously no idea whether that was true, that's why the question form.
That's nonsense because Rabiot was critcized, his mom was heavily criticized and Rabiot is one of the few players to have been pushed aside from the french team after acting like a fool. An other one being Ribéry.
Right. That's true.
Oh, I'm agreeing with you. It's always more difficult for any player in any league to deal with the press of their own country anyways, others don't care as much and just look from afar. I was just making a joke of how that's not really much of a problem at PSG since we have so few.
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