I think it's still too early to say whether or not Ole has that same ruthless streak as Pep and Klopp. (Apparently) having a big drop off from our first 11 to our backups has made Oles job slightly easier because it's easier to keep players happy if he plays the same players almost week in week out. I think his biggest challenge has yet to come once we sign better players and making the squad a lot more competitive. Then and only then can he be judged on his ruthlessness or lack of. Obviously there's more to say on what else makes a successful manager but as this thread is about his man management I'll leave it there.
Ole the man manager
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Whatever happens in the next week and also at the 2022 World Cup, I think Gareth Southgate might want to return to club management and hopefully following success with England, he won't be looking for a Fulham or a Wolves type job.
Would Man utd. fans welcome him as a successor to OGS? He does seem to excel at the 'man management' side of things.
Would Man utd. fans welcome him as a successor to OGS? He does seem to excel at the 'man management' side of things.
Lord no
No, no and no.
No. There are times and places for types of managers and Man Utd is not the place or time for Gareth.
No.
What's wrong with that picture?
Great idea, he could use his relationship with the English players to get the muppets the players they want.
He'll also be getting knighthood soon and we're used to our manager having that.
I don’t see him returning to club management anytime soon. I think he would want to emulate Joachim Löw and have a prolonged tenure with England.
Ole could finish 6th next season and I would still rather the club kept him than replaced him with Southgate
If Utd. finish 6th next season and assuming they don't win the CL or drop into the EL and win that, OGS will be released. I keep pointing this out: it is a minimum requirement in his contract to keep Utd. in the CL and if G. Southgate has declared his intention to return to club management after Qatar 2022, Utd. might put a caretaker manager in place and then allow Southgate to take the job. If he wins the Euros and/or the World Cup, it would be a logical move for him and Manchester Utd: world famous club takes on world famous manager.
100% no to Southgate. If he’s smart he stays in the England job for as long as possible. He seems to have a good arrangement.
This is like when people suddenly thought Chris Coleman was a good manager after he got Wales to the Euro 2016 semis.
This is like when people suddenly thought Chris Coleman was a good manager after he got Wales to the Euro 2016 semis.
It would be an illogical and extremely ill-advised move. International management is a totally different job to club management.
This United fan thinks he got the job because he is "white man"
This United fan thinks he got the job because he is "white man"
This video is over a year old. That guy goes by the name “rants n bants” & is probably the most toxic “United fan” on the Internet. He seems to hate everything about the club. Including our legends & downplaying our history.
You forgot his terrible treatment on Greenwood.
I thought Mason Greenwood withdrew himself at the beginning of June (just before the 33 became 26) due to an underlying injury that needed recuperation, or have I missed something?
I was talking about the last year one which made Ole angry of Southgate's man management on Greenwood.
Southgate has shown nothing in his man management, not saying he doesn't have one but I'm not sure how you think his man management is top notch.
I dunno whats worse, the utter Bollox he spouts to generate attention and clicks or that Robbie sits there noddin along with it.
He can't seriously believe that drivel, can he?
I think he has some issues to be honest. Seems like a nasty piece of work from what I’ve seen of him.I dunno whats worse, the utter Bollox he spouts to generate attention and clicks or that Robbie sits there noddin along with it.
He can't seriously believe that drivel, can he?
His brother is that Expressions fella, the Spurs fan. Polar opposite personality. Seems like a happy go lucky chap. It’s weird they are related.
Didn't he also say that Shaw was only at United because he was white?
I'm not familiar with him, I try to avoid the YouTube pundits if possible.
The only ones I tend to watch from time to time are the Stretford paddock bunch as they don't seem quite so psychotic and they actually have something to say other than everybody else is shit and they're cheating.
Plus I like the whole starting a football club thing they've got going on.
On a side note, I stumbled across 'a bunch of amateurs' recently which, if you've ever played in the amateur leagues, is hilarious.
God no.
Weirdo. Keep your ignore list to yourself.
Don't act like savage around here and expecting people to follow your higher taste of reading threads.
So annoying.
This is why I'll be supporting Denmark/Italy/Spain. If he wins the Euros and Ole fecks up we're stupid enough to hire him. The thought of it makes me shudder more than the Moyes rumours when Fergie retired.
So, being nice to players is a good man management in these snowflake days?
Manager's most important skill is tactical knowledge. That wins you games and titles. And he is pretty poor in that. And that is most important thing here.
But yeah, i agree that he knows with the players and how to keep them happy. I prefer LVG or Fergie style (manager who is THE boss) but this new age footballers are too spoiled and soft for that approach. Today if you yell on player, he, his agent and all family will go crying on Facebook, Instagram and media.
Manager's most important skill is tactical knowledge. That wins you games and titles. And he is pretty poor in that. And that is most important thing here.
But yeah, i agree that he knows with the players and how to keep them happy. I prefer LVG or Fergie style (manager who is THE boss) but this new age footballers are too spoiled and soft for that approach. Today if you yell on player, he, his agent and all family will go crying on Facebook, Instagram and media.
No a manager's most important skill is good management skills. The hint's in the name. What you're talking about is a head coach. As long as a manager has coaches under him with good tactical knowledge its no big deal. Fergie was absolutely a manager in the Ole mould. A man manager first who knew how to motivate his players. The tactical details were often left to the assistant coaches.
Van Gaal and SAF are completely different in how they manage players, SAF is arguably the greatest manager when it comes to man management. He didn't have one rule for all.
Agreed. I don’t rate Ole but, my goodness, he is levels above Southgate.Ole could finish 6th next season and I would still rather the club kept him than replaced him with Southgate
I'm going off what people have been saying on TV and on the Radio specifically he seems to be dealing well with this large squad - appeasing the players who are not getting much game time, whilst maintaining team spirit (did you see Foden run on when Sterling scored the 1st goal against Germany?) Apparently, people are saying he has been able to stop cliques forming (between club team mates) that in the past has caused problems for England, at big tournements. Also, he lets them have ketchup on their chips.
I understand that managing a national team is different from managing a club side, however - he does seem the sort of person I think Man Utd. would go for, if he decides to return to club management: cleancut image etc.
I see his clips all over twitter, he's some deluded fella. How can you be a fan and hate everything about the club?
I also remember how he was talking up Arteta because he is on the touchline signalling to players what to do.
It is such a waste using the racial card just because it isn't a manager he can back. He really hates Maguire, Shaw, Bruno, Ole as well.
In essence it generally relates to 'one-to-one' management techniques or influences, as different from say group management/team management capabilities; but the two are not mutually exclusive. People I've worked with in the past on management development would probably say its to do with emotional intelligence.
Welcome to the world! People often get a position because of their connections in all walks of life because they understand that business, including football, so what?
Second in league behind a state funded (unlimited resources club) managed by arguably the best manager in the world and reach a European Final.
I think some supporters are like spoilt children.....grow up and get some perspective.
How is he poor tactically? He’s masterminded quite a few big results against some top top team. Baffles me how people question his tactics.
Awful tactician? what makes you say that?
How can you be awful at something and finish second, semi final of cups, final of Europa, beat brilliant managers ?
This United fan thinks he got the job because he is "white man"
Rants and bants, massive dickhead, seems to rant but has little in the way of bants. Just another wannabe e-celeb but zero charisma or likeability
Please no.
I saw a clip of him saying Shaw shouldn’t go to the Euros & Telles is our best left back. I don’t how old it is but with it being euros related I can only assume it’s recent. After the season Shaw has had its a baffling comment. Seems like a strange guy.
He’s also had such gems as “Sir Alex wasn’t good tactically” & “Roy Keane was shit on the ball”
It’s crazy we won the treble with a shit manager & captain
It’s weird because his brother has both of those in spades. Probably explains why he has 4x the following.
I saw a clip of him saying Shaw shouldn’t go to the Euros & Telles is our best left back. I don’t how old it is but with it being euros related I can only assume it’s recent. After the season Shaw has had its a baffling comment. Seems like a strange guy.
He’s also had such gems as “Sir Alex wasn’t good tactically” & “Roy Keane was shit on the ball”
It’s crazy we won the treble with a shit manager & captain
its weird when people accuse others of not knowing football and come out with nonsense.
The greatest ever manager, you can ask rival fans, rival managers, past managers, present managers and SAF would be number 1. You have to have tactical ability to be able to win title after title.
I would really hate to be a fan when you dislike the manager's, the players for youtube views
When he's going to do that year in, year out versus all the teams, disregarding their setup, I will agree.
Until then we ain't playing against "a few big teams" the whole year round. Actually we play the vast majority of smaller/average clubs.
I can't call the guy a great tactician because he got a few big results here and there.
If he'd be a great tactician we would've had a trophy or two in the last few years.