Unless you made 20m in the last 3 years, you shouldn't feel sorry for him. I have not much sympathy for someone doing a bad job and at the same time making 20m pounds if he/she lose their job at the end, by this time he already secured his future and his children future.
Ole Sack Watch
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At this point he is stealing a living from United, same as the Glazers and half the coaching set up. The self preservation society.
He wants credit for bottling semi's and never realistically challenging for the league or UCL as all our top rivals alternate winning the biggest prizes in the meantime?
Whatever inroads he made after the toxic shitshow that was the end of Mournho's tenure have quickly gone to shit in spite of solid backing in the market and having the best squad on paper we've had since Fergie was in charge.
Just not good enough and I doubt anything will turn around given the amount of false dawns we've gone through in these last 3 years.
Yeah you’re probably right…
Free cookie, nice.
He was being paid at his previous club in Norway more than 6 specialist doctors in Norway, you think his lifestyle was shit there?
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Can't hear or read the word 'rebuild' anymore. The term every failing manager uses
People always say this but no matter how much money you have you still have the same emotions, pride, ups and downs houndont suddenly become
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I don't really care, to be honest. It was more a pedantic point because, as you have said, it's become patently obvious he's got enough money to be able to get out of this job and not be worried that even his great-grandkids will suffer from money problems.
Such a dire and toxic situation now isn't it. I hate the fact we've all turned against a club legend but I blame no-one other than Woodward and the board for letting it get this far.
Hope we win tomorrow and go on a good run. Good management is about dealing with and sorting out difficult situations. Life doesn’t sail on with no problems. Let’s hope they have addressed them and we can March on. Let’s see where we are at on New Year’s Day
Yeah that’s the thing. Neither of them plead stupidity/naivety. They just are. In fact, we’re the problem for believing them. They’re just being themselves. Naive and delusional. As are we for going along with them. I think in the case of Ole it’s a little more complicated. We want to believe and we want to trust because he is such a legend. Some of us are taking a little longer to come out of the romance to see reality. Then added to that is Fergie’s speech about trusting your manager. It just feels better to be steadfast against popular opinion. The sooner Ole is out the better though.
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Think Ole will manage to turn it around with wins against Watford and Villareal.
Not sure. I know the academy thing in Norway was highly criticised on a moral level and likened to a cash factory with no regards to the development of the players, just who can we get on the books and how much can we sell them for.
Once Ole is involved with other clubs, even if he had no involvement with the academy, it’s a gross betrayal to sign or recommend players simply so your mate can get his agent fee with no regards to whether your employer is getting value for their money.
If your involved and part of the agent’s company then it’s illegal, which is why Ole sold his shares when he got into coaching. If you’re receiving secret payments because of the players your agent/mate is selling to the club you work for then I’d guess it’s illegal but suppose harder to prove why the payments were made.
That would piss off so many people on here
The new ‘process’, eh?
This is how the board thinks and that's why we are in the shitter.
Wins against Watford and Villarreal would turn around feck all.
Good points. There could also be a super volcanic eruption or an asteroid strike on earth which would render all money at best, a bit burnt and unlikely to be accepted in branches of HSBC’. Even in that situation Ole’s charred skeleton would find it challenging to use an ATM anyway.
We’re not beating Villarreal away. We have a dodgy record in Spain in the first place.
'Players attributes'? What are you even going on about?
Just thought it was a funny sentence to write.
Shameful. No one in their right mind would take a break in the middle of a crisis in any business. Its like a CEO of a company taking a paid vacation when the company is in the brink of bankruptcy
I am against the flow of "True Red".
I am rooting for every single opposition until he is gone.
That is how far I have gone to dislike this person.
FFS.
I am rooting for every single opposition until he is gone.
That is how far I have gone to dislike this person.
FFS.
It isn’t like that though is it. We are not on the verge of bankruptcy, if anything Ole is on the verge of being sacked, if that was me I would be taking my my holiday
You'd take a holiday knowing that you're about to lose your job instead of trying to save it?
People actually think like this?
They might when they already have a tons of money and getting sacked would get them a few more millions.
He wants credit for bottling semi's and never realistically challenging for the league or UCL as all our top rivals alternate winning the biggest prizes in the meantime?
Whatever inroads he made after the toxic shitshow that was the end of Mournho's tenure have quickly gone to shit in spite of solid backing in the market and having the best squad on paper we've had since Fergie was in charge.
Just not good enough and I doubt anything will turn around given the amount of false dawns we've gone through in these last 3 years.
And they said he 'gets united'. He of all people should know he hasn't achieved anything
Who says he actually took a full holiday though?
Yes they sent the 10 senior players not injured or on international duty away from Carrington for some time away for a mental reset with individual training.
But the coaches planning and preparation work can be just as easily done over videocalls.
Then start executing on those plans from this week when more and more players came back from international duty.
I work and live abroad from my homecountry, and after spending 1.5 years of the pandemic alone in an apartment missing holidays etc. I've just now been a few months in my homecountry to make up for it. But I've been working full-time every day from a remote setup and then having evenings and weekends to see friends and family.
Agree, he is literally a joke now. Opposite fans, the media, they are all making fun of him.
While I don't think he just fecked off and kicked his feet up for the entirety of the holiday, it is the optics of it. Especially in a industry that has tons of media focus, if it looks like you're going on holiday when everything is going haywire, just gives a really bad look, and while the optics may not tell the whole story, they do matter in the public eye. Doubly so when one of the main criticisms is that you're already a passive manager looking at an iPad for 95% of the game, and that criticism has been around arguably since the beginning of his tenure.
The only reason why the media cared is because they had very little else to write about when there's an international break.
To be able to cut it in a job like this you have to not care what the media says or writes. Just focus on yourself and what you think is best. If that's using the last chance to see family until far into next year then I doubt he cares that some people in the media says he maybe shouldn't have.
In another week or so everyone will have forgotten about this holiday anyway as the media fills up with other news.
That's nice. I'm guessing you aren't the manager of a major football club who has been struggling for months and just gotten beat by their fiercest rivals by a combined score of 7-0 without any resemblance of a strategy though.
I understand that you are trying to put yourselves in his shoes as you've maybe felt the pandemic effects more due to being alone, but I assume you have not been as poor in your job as he has been and your job was not on the line when you came back home to spend time with friends and family.
If United were winning and performing well, you think anyone would worry about him flying back home and taking time off?
Sure, my role is very different from that of a football manager. But the core of what tools to use for remote working is pretty similar.
I used myself as an example just cause I know I can perform my management job remotely, interacting with the other company leads to work out plans for the rest of the company to execute on. And I mentioned my pandemic sobstory just to explain why I've been on "holiday" for some months.
I know most of this forum doesn't want to believe this, but maybe Ole doesn't feel like his job is on the line. Not more than it always have been anyway.
So him going away (at the only possible opportunity for over 4 months, next international break is at the end of March next year) and having the rest of the players and coaching staff also take a break from seeing Carrington every day, maybe it isn't the worst idea in the world? A change of scenery can do a lot of good for everyone involved to come back re-energized to push on for the coming months of back to back matches.
I’ve been a fan for nearly 40 years and Ole has shown himself more incompetent than Big Ron.
Ole the player is a legend. It sickens me that I now cannot look at his face, or hear his voice, without an overwhelming sense of anger and disgust.
This charade needs to end, if only to preserve the sanity of our long suffering fan base.
Ole the player is a legend. It sickens me that I now cannot look at his face, or hear his voice, without an overwhelming sense of anger and disgust.
This charade needs to end, if only to preserve the sanity of our long suffering fan base.
Just cannot get over these clowns thinking this was our first blip under Ole, wow they really are totally clueless
Cant wait for the side to lose 2-0 to Watford and for our fans to clap him off like they do every week.
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