please stop with this rubbish....they are taking the piss , and hardly insecure
Ole Sack Watch
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Happened to Moyes as well. I think people underestimate the mental health effect these repeated losses/media pressure have on these guys. It destroys them, and the clubs not helping by letting them continue.
I think the likes of Mourinho and LVG lack just the right amount of self-awareness for this to not bother them. Though Mourinho changed a lot at Madrid, but I don't think he was that personally impacted at United/Chelsea.
and so it should ... this is the biggest club in the world , the pressure and expectations should be massive
what we have settled for is molde/cardiff pedigree .......
How many times that gif of crystal palace vs liverpool has been posted here?
then quit and hand the job over to someone who knows what their doing
I'd be a bit surprised if we hear it again to be honest. The team will get support, the manager will too on Saturday, but I think that songs dead now.
I mean are we all just assuming ole has mental health issues now or something? Yes it's a stressful job but just assuming that he's going through a personal crisis is completely unfair.
The jobs are stressful, there's a reason they are paid this much.
He has free will, if he is struggling as much as some of you are implying, he can walk away or ask to be fired.
I hope so too. We have had two of the goat club managers, then lots of not so great, who have ranged from decent to absolutely awful.
For what it's worth, I think Ole is done, folks say he should resign but maybe he doesn't want the dippers handing out his P45, I wouldn't.
Liverpool did too in fairness, feck me they backed one of their own Roy Evans to the hilt, so much so the club didn’t even dare sack him, they made him share the job with Houllier for a season to get everyone used to it, then they had a cult around Benitez. “King Kenny” was ridiculously brought back after two decades, the people were banned from RAWK for questioning Brenton.
Only one they unanimously were against from the off was Woy.
No surprise they spent so long in the wilderness too.
100%. Not many people can handle it, and if you've got someone there who can't handle it they are in the wrong place.
All these in the last 10 or so minutes. You need to take a break from this thread.
It’s true, it’s so cringey!!
Honestly, I get second hand embarrassment just hearing it.
Cheers. I don't really care what you might think but I certainly have no time for some tragic millionaire figure who is getting defended by people who would run us into the ground.
‘Hated, adored but never ignored’ was when we were good.
Now it is something along the lines of ‘embarrassed and humiliated’.
No I'm saying he's a human being - albeit a very well paid, public one. It's natural to be effected by something like this - I know I would. And quitting isn't easy. There's a ton of things he's probably thinking at the moment including whether he wants the last image of his career at Man Utd (as a player or manager) being one where he oversaw the club get humiliated by Liverpool at home.
Haha. Yeah, I worry the players might too.
No, but all he did was took the job in our moment of need, and stayed on as he was asked to do. It's not up to him to walk away and save the club millions for their own mistake.
His legacy will hopefully survive this long term.
I'm in the same boat mate. My hope is waning admittedly, but I desperately want him to turn it around.
He's made colossal mistakes this year which could ultimately cost him his job but if he can rectify them it's not too late and the situation is not unfixable.
The key thing is he has to do what he did before and learn from those mistakes. In his last two seasons, he did. This season though, up til now at least, he hasn't.
Mourinhos one was worse. Genuinely one of the worst football songs ever.
I remember I took a couple of my Malaysian friends from uni to OT, and about half an hour in they turn around and say "why are they singing this sad song?"
No need for this shit. He’s not good enough for the job but he didn’t hire himself, renew his own contract, or keep himself in the job this long.
Direct your anger towards the decision making process at the club and people involved in that.
No-one to blame but ourselves with opposition fans chanting Oles at the wheel. If you’re going to big someone up to that degree and they don’t then prepare to get bantered to be honest. We’d fecking do it if Liverpool did that too. We laughed at how stupid they were in the Roy Evans era, as they stumbled and goofed around despite tooting their horn every year, indulging themselves in Boot Room nostalgia with Ronnie Moran and Sammy Lee in the coaching team… all the old boys from the good old days. Does that sound familiar?
Remember the ‘Chosen One’? Like why was that done? Was it done as a show of some morally superior position of ‘we back managers and you’re all dumb!’ then we got a massive culture shock and reality check, and now we should realise that regular manager turnover is the norm.
Remember the ‘Chosen One’? Like why was that done? Was it done as a show of some morally superior position of ‘we back managers and you’re all dumb!’ then we got a massive culture shock and reality check, and now we should realise that regular manager turnover is the norm.
So Bayern got thrashed 5-0 tonight and crashed out of the cup.
Are we sacking our manager? Of course not.
One game means nothing.
Are we sacking our manager? Of course not.
One game means nothing.
Look at it this way. If he somehow manages to turn this around, it'll be a story for the ages. And yes I know it's extremely unlikely before some of the miserable cnuts in here start biting my head off.
Sounds like a lot of assumptions based on nothing. Mental illnesses are serious and shouldn't just be placed on people based on nothing. People have different stresses and react to them differently. If ole was suffering then he should make the obvious decision. If the club is backing him through this and he has come out and said that he still thinks he's the right man it can't be that bad.
If the alternative was to keep Ole, I'd swap him for Moyes in a heartbeat.
Doesn’t seem like you care about much, although you’ll obviously say you care about the club to justify being a nasty ****. I’ve been Ole out for ages so I’m not defending anything but i just can’t understand why anyone would take it so personally against him and say they have no compassion for a decent bloke taking shit from all sides for simply trying his best and failing. People like you, posting horrible sh*t just come across as fecking morons. Just no need for it. Have you never tried and failed at anything in your life?
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If a person got humiliated the way he got done by Liverpool last Sunday, remember that Liverpool could have scored more but decided not to because it wasn't worth it, that's a complete humiliation, any person with any professional dignity would have quit on the spot (as he had said he would). But I doubt he would because he appears to be delusional enough to think he could turn it around... also because the payout is a few million dollars. Yeah, pity him.
Normally, I'd agree, but this is the guy who was supposed to be different and have Manchester United's interest at heart.
Of course, he's no different than any other manager. Self serving.
Can people please stop saying this? It's unreasonable to expect him to quit.
If you were in Ole's shoes, would you quit your job and throw away 20 million quid in the process? No, you would not, and neither would any other sane person on the planet.
2 things:
We do have a song for SAF, "every single one of us loves Alex Ferguson"
Secondly, the at the wheel song was originally made for Jose shortly before he was sacked and adapted for Ole. It wasn't made solely for him.
If you're being serious, you guys are under a new manager but still in 1st place, 1st place in your CL group and are coming off a season having won 4 trophies.
We haven't won a trophy since 2016/17
Come on bud. You can’t seriously expect someone to walk away from a multimillion severance package.
Also, maybe Ole might still genuinely believe he can turn it around (it would be a bit deluded, but I can see that being the case). His employers should be the ones who objectively judge if he can or can’t, and take their decisions accordingly.
I don't know if I can or I can't, actually. But if he's no different than any other manager, then I won't feel sorry for him just because of his history with us.
Did you sack Kovac because he lost 5-1 to Eintracht Frankfurt?
There’s your answer.
I just realised we could easily amend the song for Conte too
"Ten Hag's at the wheel" doesn't quite have the same ring to it. Not that I ever want to hear that song sung ever again for anyone.I know mate.Look at it this way. If he somehow manages to turn this around, it'll be a story for the ages. And yes I know it's extremely unlikely before some of the miserable cnuts in here start biting my head off.
Look, I know it's not a logical view but I can't help it. I love the guy and I love the club. He's done some fantastic things here in very difficult circumstances and despite what the "£400m spent" brigade say, he's not had the sort of backing his predecessors had. Seeing some of the puerile stuff I've seen here and on twitter regarding him and the job he's done, is disheartening. If he can't even get the credit for it from the supposed fans of the club, in what world will he get it from the wider media? The United in our name used to mean something, but it doesn't at the moment.
I can only hope he either turns it around and gets the naysayers back onside (unlikely, bordering on impossible) or the next man can unify the fanbase and satisfy the agitators.
We're the ones who create cringey chants and slogans for managers who are out of their depth and have never won anything. We've done it with two managers now and it invites mockery and memes.
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