I should have known better than to post in the United forum, my bad.
Ole Sack Watch
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I should have known better than to post in the United forum, my bad.
Doesn't surprise me here. I mean if there should ever be a banning offence ...
Ole has proven he can battle down the hatches when need be. I mean it was a clueless decision to attempt to turn us into a pressing team with our personel, not to mention Ole and his coaching staff are clearly not qualified to coach a well organised press.
I think Ole will go to his 4231 formation, close the gaps in midfield. This will also mean that we'll look completely clueless going forward since we can't rely on the counter but it'll stop the leak. We'll continue to rely on Ronaldo, Bruno, Greenwood or Rashford to bail us out through individual quality.
@mods - can't this be merged with the Ole Sack thread? It's the same discussion in both.
Based on reports that the players and certain member of the coaching staff have lost faith in Ole, literally anyone who isn't named Ole will be an improvement on our situation.
That's why I don't get the boards reluctance to appoint an interim while they search for a permanent replacement. Pundits, fans, the media can have their say regarding Ole's future, but the board won't care one bit what we think and certainly won't act on it, but when murmers of discontent among the playing and coaching staff reach their ears, they absolutely have to act. I don't get the delay.
What does turning on Fergie mean?
Yep and when you factor in amortisation, which is how clubs look at transfers. Jose and Gaal were backed heavily!
Some of those wages for Sanches and Bastian, where insane. The markets the market and its growing. If/when Ole does leave the next manager will probably spend more than Ole. Its how the market progresses for England there's a lot of money in the league.
Soon he'll be called names.
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Some of the stuff you wrote actually. Fitting you responded.
Team Ole is strong
I think they’re hoping he can stumble into the international break (yes the third fecking one this season) and then the pressure falls awayThey will shit the bed and appoint Conte eventually. Such a bizarre club.
What you've just said contains no logic. The whole reason we're here is because the manager isn't good enough. In 3 years he's failed to build a team that functions to the required level. To think a "rocket up the arse" will suddenly change our fortunes and have us playing good football is deluded to put it bluntly.
Nothing will change. We're dithering again, just as we've dithered for years. The only people more inept at their jobs than Solskjaer and the coaching team, are the United board.
Sometimes supporting this club feels like being the only sane person in a mental asylum.
This feels like a point of no return though. He didn't batten down the hatches after conceding 4 to Leicester and then we let in 5. Both of those games we could've conceded more. It's abject.
Yeah because anyone who doesn't wank themselves into a coma at the thought of how well Ole has done must be a "true Chelsea fan".
There you go. So let's not hear how much Ole loves the club any more please. He loves the money, otherwise he would do a Gattuso.
If we're being objective about this, waiting and considering the best option is better than sacking Ole now and hoping.
The board is probably doing the right thing.
The board is probably doing the right thing.
Apparently he's lost Fred the Red now too... Very concerning.
Yeah the fact he continued with the high press against Liverpool after how pathetic we executed it v Leicester shocked me tbh. That was very unlike Ole, and I trust that he'll try and go back to his more defensive approach.
If the reports that the players have lost faith in the manager is true, then of course, anyone but Ole would be better. What managers are available that could come in in such short notice on an interim basis?
Anyone declaring other fans "deluded cretins" for continuing to sing songs at 5-0 down sounds a hell of a lot like a Chelsea fan, yes. It's not like the songs at the end of the game were even about Ole or any of the players on that pitch.
Feck off Jan! It’s ok you and Gary Neville can both console each other when the inevitable happens. I’m sure you’ll be distraught for months to come.
No fecking way he's managing us against Spurs after all that? What the feck does this club think?
I'm living a nightmare that doesn't want to end. Win, lose or draw against Spurs, I just can't bring myself to care anymore with him in charge.
I'm living a nightmare that doesn't want to end. Win, lose or draw against Spurs, I just can't bring myself to care anymore with him in charge.
Yeah I'd actually be inclined to agree. The club clearly don't want Conte and definitely don't have a contingency plan in place. It is shocking but obviously they now have to stick their underdeveloped brains together to come up with a succession plan for Ole - it will happen in the international break. Let's just have some banter for the next three games, nothing any of us can do about it.
Because it's a clip of one period of a football game? It's not how he played. Surely you can't be that clueless?
It's like if I showed you a highlight of us scoring against leeds and you thought that is how ole managed
There's currently 4 threads discussing this, it is getting confusing I will admit. There's:
Luckhurst thread (this one)
Duckers thread
Ole Perfromance thread
Ole Sack watch
All being drip fed the same information.
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Well to be fair the news so far is that he has 3 games to turn things around so it's not too far out of the realms of possibility that the rocket up the asses and a change of tactics saves him his job
It feels like Conte is inevitable, and will inevitably be deemed as yet another mistake in two years time. Except he'll have dismantled the otherwise exciting young team with bags of potential in the process.
Even Conte would sure us up. Do you think Potter would turn his nose up at an 18 month contract? Most managers would back themselves to earn an extension and be delighted with the opportunity. I think any of the current PL managers barring Farke and Bruce would do a better job at this moment in time.
You pay for face-to-face tutorage. Was fantastic because you get to speak a language from the off.
If the 'win the next three games' story from Mark Ogden/Rob Dawson is true all parties involved need their heads examined.
Not a chance we beat City with him in charge as the players heads have gone, so if you're in Solskjaer's position you may as well just walk today rather than put yourself through that. We literally just played the nearest equivalent and neither pride nor ability saw us salvage even a modest defeat let alone get anywhere near winning.
If you're the board you automatically increase the chance of us winning the next three if Solskjaer goes before, even with a caretaker manager in charge just for those games.
It's clear he has lost the dressing room, it's curtains. Ole will always be a club hero of mine, but there is no point continuing this charade.
Not a chance we beat City with him in charge as the players heads have gone, so if you're in Solskjaer's position you may as well just walk today rather than put yourself through that. We literally just played the nearest equivalent and neither pride nor ability saw us salvage even a modest defeat let alone get anywhere near winning.
If you're the board you automatically increase the chance of us winning the next three if Solskjaer goes before, even with a caretaker manager in charge just for those games.
It's clear he has lost the dressing room, it's curtains. Ole will always be a club hero of mine, but there is no point continuing this charade.
Every game the board gives Ole now is 3 lost points basicly!
Oh they definitely want to keep him but even these nutjobs can't justify it. The main reasons they are dithering imo are:
1) Hard to get a new manager in a couple days (they are crap at preparing for obvious scenarios)
2) Convenient international break coming up where they can get things done easier
3) They might feel bad for Ole and want the 5-0 at home to Liverpool to not be his last game in charge.
How can they risk disrupting the team 48 hours before our game in Italy, are they insane? I can believe the board is so inept. What did he do to convince them of a second chance?
Don't worry about it, going by your posts the last 2 years you been a living a nightmare with Ole at the club
He's not exactly wrong, it's pretty blatant Conte is using the Italian press to make it clear he wants the job.
I never mentioned singing songs. But sure keep the red flag flying by being a better supporter than others by gleefully acting as a cheerleader regardless of what happens on the pitch, anyone who doesn't follow suit can only be a Chelsea supporter. There's no other logical explanation.
Not sure if posted but Jordan makes sense here.
You can't honestly be claiming Ole doesn't love the club, come on, if there is one shred of decency people can show the guy it's for his love of the club. And he said 'how far we have come'
I understand it's frustrating for those who have been desperate for a new guy anyway at this point, I get it, I really do, but sportsman/managers back themselves, it's what they've always done, it's not in their DNA to throw the towel in. When you eat, sleep and drink a job like this, your dream job, you have to back yourself. Rightly or wrongly he thinks he's still the man to do it. It's on the board to take the bull by the horns here now, we shouldn't turn on Ole because he's not walking away, how many times has that actually ever happened?
We should beat Spurs. Even in our current it would be some achievement to feck up that one.
We can't win a major title with that park the bus and counter crap either, reverting back to that style again is pointless. The top sides in the league already worked it out last season as evidenced by our declining results against them.
What are the players supposed to do now. Fight for the club, their teammates and their own pride and then go on a winning streak....but then that means they are stuck with an incompetent manager? They are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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