...go on then. Elaborate.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4
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Keane literally threatened to fight people on a daily basis, even when injured for not training. The Brian Clough era of management was over a long time ago, you can't scare people into performing anymore. People often mistake this bullying leadership as good management, Keane was never going to make a good manager because he's just too emotional. Ole is the complete opposite.
I've no idea how good a manager he is, but people who look at his Cardiff stint and thus conclude he can't be much good have tiny minds.
I know, it was tongue in cheek. He did really well, albeit with an easy CL run to the final and a 2 horse league. Just saying that you don't have to have managed Madrid to have the managerial qualities to managed United.Who? Mourinho?He won Uefa cup and CL back to back.
I doubt our team could improve massively without signings in January to challenge the top 4. PSG have a better team than us for sure and are massive favorites in the CL. That threadmarked description of his second spell at Molde doesn't really fill me with confidence, now that I have read it.
I wouldn't be too worried. Molde and United are very different beasts. The resources available to him at United will mean he can play the way we want to play, at Molde his hands are tied to what talent they can get that doesn't end up at Rosenberg.
Voted no, it's a PR appointment and an ill thought out one at that. We needed someone to steady the ship not a mascot.
That said I'm excited to go on for the ride obv because its Ole
This.
I wonder if all those who voted yes, did that just for the excitement of a club legend managing us.
Jose had just won the CL!
I'm very happy with the OGS appointment. But we would all be tearing our hair our if we went and appointed Rikard Norling who is the manager of AIK in Sweden for example. The links to Utd are far more important that who he has managed in this instance.
Roy Keane won The Championship with a team who looked doomed when he took over.
Gary Neville took over a team who were doomed, half way through the season, with no understanding of the language.
Solskjaer has more managerial experience than both Zidane and Guardiola had combined before they stepped up to manage Real and Barca.
Also, its a caretaker role. There is nothing to lose. It seems the club are finally doing something right and taking the time for proper reboot.
From what I remember about that he was just too ambitious with the way he wanted Cardiff to play. They weren't capable.
It might just be me but I’m as totally under-whelmed as I was when Moyes was appointed! I know it’s only an interim position but the season isn’t over yet - we are still in the CL, the FA cup and Top 4 isn’t mathematically impossible yet. This isn’t the same as when Giggs took over from Moyes with only 4 games left and nothing to play for.
I get the ex United player, knows the club, respects the badge thing but if that’s the criteria you might as well give it to Mark Hughes then? Ole’s record in the PL is relegation with Cardiff and he’s never managed massive egos before. Would he have the cojones to drop Pogba I wonder? I know nothing about the Norwegian league to be fair but it’s hardly Serie A is it?
This is a massive, massive risk and I’m hoping I’m wrong but this could go horribly pear-shaped! Sorry for the negativity but I’ve got a bad feeling about this appointment.
I get the ex United player, knows the club, respects the badge thing but if that’s the criteria you might as well give it to Mark Hughes then? Ole’s record in the PL is relegation with Cardiff and he’s never managed massive egos before. Would he have the cojones to drop Pogba I wonder? I know nothing about the Norwegian league to be fair but it’s hardly Serie A is it?
This is a massive, massive risk and I’m hoping I’m wrong but this could go horribly pear-shaped! Sorry for the negativity but I’ve got a bad feeling about this appointment.
I know, it was tongue in cheek. Ole is different, he spent years at United and won many trophies and knows what it takes. He's more qualified than Giggs for example but people are turning their noses up at him because he manages in Norway...
I think most attacking managers would have failed with Cardiff. He should never joined them.
I think this move from us will turn out very good.
I think this move from us will turn out very good.
The guy here saying Ole is considered to be a legend only thanks to the goal in Barcelona in 99
He was at United, as a player, from 1996 til 2007 and as a manager of our reserves til 2011. That is 15 years. If you manage that while winning the league 6 times, you're pretty much already a legend. Even Fellaini would be in that case. Ole was also one of the most loyal player of the kind you won't find today.
We won't finish below sixth, and we will need to go on a City-like run and rely on luck to finish higher than fifth. We've got nothing to lose.
Also, feck Blanc. We don't have enough white players to suit him anyways.
He was at United, as a player, from 1996 til 2007 and as a manager of our reserves til 2011. That is 15 years. If you manage that while winning the league 6 times, you're pretty much already a legend. Even Fellaini would be in that case. Ole was also one of the most loyal player of the kind you won't find today.
We won't finish below sixth, and we will need to go on a City-like run and rely on luck to finish higher than fifth. We've got nothing to lose.
Also, feck Blanc. We don't have enough white players to suit him anyways.
Eh i didn't ignore anything mate, what do you think i ignored?
If he fails he's not really lost anything, he most likely could get his job at Molde back or another job in Norway based on his work in Norway.
Not really, is there anyone else available right now that would be a good appointment? This is a good appointment as a caretaker manager, anyone that doesn't know the club coming in now would just do more damage.
Someone gets it.
How could Utd 'accidentally,' announce it?
We're a PLC;have a duty to announce this to our shareholders in an official way not drop a hint here and there!
What a fecking shambles of a club we're turning out to be!!
We're a PLC;have a duty to announce this to our shareholders in an official way not drop a hint here and there!
What a fecking shambles of a club we're turning out to be!!
They were up shite creak when he joined them anyway.That's never mentioned.
Well it's not like he was the choice of anyone on here before this week so yes they are.
There's every chance he still does good even if its not the wisest appointment, we've got an easy run coming up where we should win the next 7 games so bit of positivity and who knows.
It's going to largely be on the players, no more excuses.
I think that we shouldn't rush to appoint Pochettino. see what Ole can do for 2/3 months and if it looks like football we might enjoy, let him have the manager position for longer, at least we would be set.
If however, we don't really like what we're seeing, try and move on for Pochettino.
If however, we don't really like what we're seeing, try and move on for Pochettino.
It happens. Someone was creating a placeholder in advance and accidentally published it. We are not the first top club to do something like this and won't be the last.
And I'm not sure that was planned either...
At least we managed to sack the manager without any leaks for once.
He got the backing from Woody last week
Looks like this decision was heavily influenced by some of our senior directors like SAF, clearly playing to the gallery. I just hope Ole will have enough willingness and ability to tame some egos in the dressing room, if needed. Modern players on big wages are tricky to deal with and he doesn't have any experience with the likes of Pogba, Sanchez or Martial. Let's hope Ole can motivate them.
Fingers crossed for him, as he's one of the Old Trafford's favorites, here's hoping he can steady the ship a little.
Fingers crossed for him, as he's one of the Old Trafford's favorites, here's hoping he can steady the ship a little.
I'm a web developer and this shit happens all the time. Someone does the work for the website, creates a pull request for a merge, boss then merges all the work done that day to the main site and forgets that this should have been delayed content. Someone then has to pull the page.
It's fairly common...
We're not just a 'top club,' though. We are one of the world's leading sports brands.
But we're run by fecking amateurs
Just woke up to this news, so happy. He will have everyone backing in a very hard job to come into.
What you described is why I wondered if it was the only content and if they didn't do it for all potential caretakers?
Where have we accodentally announced it?
I genuinely fear this will sour a lot of the great memories you have of him. I'm sure some people will be logical and expect limited amounts from him, but when results go against you (and they will. A lot) aforementioned logic will go out the window and the mood will darken.
A big name was never going to come as interim, but they should have got someone not as beloved.
A big name was never going to come as interim, but they should have got someone not as beloved.
Keane is not someone who you'd trust to take control of the dressing room and has show it many times. Neville seems to be given up on management after that experience.
Solskjaer has managed Molde. Barca had a structure in place build by Cruyff, Real spend a lot of money in a two horse race at the time. Far from similar circumstances.
We can lose CL for another year if we don't make 4th(which is a long shot anyways).
Our website won't be run by one guy and a Wordpress account. It will be an agency that do daily merges to fix bugs and add new content on a daily basis. These things happen when you have many moving parts, as you do when maintaining a website of this size.
The merge (between the live site and the development site, which is offline) may have also been automated to happen at a certain time every day. Meaning someone finished the work and submitted it for review, someone reviewed it and it got pushed into the merge section too early.
I don’t agree with the gallery point. Not a single person in this forum would have imagined Ole as manager of Manchester United, interim or not 48 hours ago.
Maybe they're waiting to see the results of the poll on the caf.
He shall come in with no pressure. What's done is done and all he has to do to bring the confidence back to the players. 5-6 months is enough. I don't care if he win the FA Cup or Champions league or magically take us to top 4. He's there for only until the end of the season then go back to the Norwegian league.
One of the reasons I have hope for Ole is the fact that for most of his managerial career he's managed clubs towards the top of their respective leagues. Our reserves, Molde and the only exception being Cardiff for a few months.
I think doing so will have influenced his ideas on the way football should be played at a club like ours. He knows that 3 points are a lot more valuable than a point. He'll know the importance of trying to kill a game early by pressing for 2-3 goals. And his in game management will be benefit from games he spent trying to turn 1-point into 3, rather than scrapping and trying to hold onto a point.
I think doing so will have influenced his ideas on the way football should be played at a club like ours. He knows that 3 points are a lot more valuable than a point. He'll know the importance of trying to kill a game early by pressing for 2-3 goals. And his in game management will be benefit from games he spent trying to turn 1-point into 3, rather than scrapping and trying to hold onto a point.
They could have possibly made a template ready to push when the news was confirmed, but if they were doing that they most likely would have left the name blank and the the quotes generic. I think they were briefed by the club and I suspect we're just waiting for the contracts to be finalised with Molde before we announce.
Only the club know why they have turned to Ole instead of countless other ex Manchester United players plying their trade at home and abroad as manager. I can only think that his style is what they think we need right now and unlike Giggs, Carrick, Butt etc he has nothing to do with the previous failed regimes. It's familiar but it's still fresh.
All those media outlets criticising the move and people calling into TalkSport saying we should have got Poch or Jardim or Zidane are kind of missing the point.
We need a rebuild internally in the way the club is structured, how things operate between the manager and boardroom, how we tackle transfer targets, how we prepare for games, how we handle the media, how we handle different kinds of players. Right now it's about more than simply throwing an A Lister into Fergies old seat and hoping things work out.
Most United fans who have not been happy with Mourinho have also been unhappy with our failings in all of the above. This appointment gives the club time to sort a lot of those things, or at least put us on the right path, and with Ole coming in to steer the ship from a match to match perspective then that side of things is in a trusted pair of hands.
Ole is not going to ask for 200m to spend in January. He'll understand fully what is expected.
Any other caretaker coming in, be it Jardim, Blanc, Zidane, whoever. They're going to be treating this as an audition. They'll want money to spend. They'll expect to be able to go for at least one January target and they won't care that the club is trying to sort all these other issues out as well. I hate the term Manchester United People. But right now we need all the Manchester United People we can get if we're ever going to get our identity back as a club. We seem to have lost our way terribly .
I understand Oles appointment. I'm not looking for him to get us top 4 or win the champions League. I'm looking for him to instill a bit of pride and togetherness in the players. I want him to ask them to look at the badge on their shirts and realise what the feck is at stake every time they step out onto that pitch. Decades and decades of hard earned - yes hard earned, not bought - success being chucked under a bus for the sake of one shitty half to the season? Don't think so.
Meanwhile the board can do what they need to in order to set us up for 19/20 and beyond.
All those media outlets criticising the move and people calling into TalkSport saying we should have got Poch or Jardim or Zidane are kind of missing the point.
We need a rebuild internally in the way the club is structured, how things operate between the manager and boardroom, how we tackle transfer targets, how we prepare for games, how we handle the media, how we handle different kinds of players. Right now it's about more than simply throwing an A Lister into Fergies old seat and hoping things work out.
Most United fans who have not been happy with Mourinho have also been unhappy with our failings in all of the above. This appointment gives the club time to sort a lot of those things, or at least put us on the right path, and with Ole coming in to steer the ship from a match to match perspective then that side of things is in a trusted pair of hands.
Ole is not going to ask for 200m to spend in January. He'll understand fully what is expected.
Any other caretaker coming in, be it Jardim, Blanc, Zidane, whoever. They're going to be treating this as an audition. They'll want money to spend. They'll expect to be able to go for at least one January target and they won't care that the club is trying to sort all these other issues out as well. I hate the term Manchester United People. But right now we need all the Manchester United People we can get if we're ever going to get our identity back as a club. We seem to have lost our way terribly .
I understand Oles appointment. I'm not looking for him to get us top 4 or win the champions League. I'm looking for him to instill a bit of pride and togetherness in the players. I want him to ask them to look at the badge on their shirts and realise what the feck is at stake every time they step out onto that pitch. Decades and decades of hard earned - yes hard earned, not bought - success being chucked under a bus for the sake of one shitty half to the season? Don't think so.
Meanwhile the board can do what they need to in order to set us up for 19/20 and beyond.
Should have waited until the stock exchange opened. Disgraceful.
It's not ideal, but it really doesn't matter.