Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4

Is Ole a good appointment?


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If United don't give him the job it will be a royal feckup by Woodward and the board because he will be managing in the PL next season, United or not.
 
xG can say what it wants, we looke
If United don't give him the job it will be a royal feckup by Woodward and the board because he will be managing in the PL next season, United or not.

He won’t uproot his kids for any old job, so I doubt you’re right about that.
 
Spurs is the only game where we gave up a ton of chances and should have conceded, but didn't. Lucky is if we get a ton of decisions our way, or penalties, or like that season under SAF where our top scorer was our opponent's own goals for awhile. We earned those wins with Ole.

Spot on. Spurs is the only game where I felt we were under the cosh, the other games were nowhere near as much open.
 
I think it's amazing that Ole has done as well as he has yet he still has to prove himself despite setting 2 records already as a manager (most wins to start a managerial career and record for consecutive away wins), yet we are ready to just give this job to a manager from another club without a try out. If Ole doesn't get named as our permanent manager then the shit is going to hit the fan...
 
Again, you make good points. But I don't feel like I've ever seen United operate a high press in the Klopp/Pep style at any point. Perhaps I haven't been looking closely enough.
I think we did the first few games of Ole's reign but then as we saw the fitness wasn't there and we looked knackered after 70 minutes so I think he has dropped them back a bit further and only press that high when we have the numbers in position. Might also be be wanting to get the defensive unit organised first as he said the other day that the defence was being pulled all over the place.

Maybe we will see it next season once they have had a proper pre season conditioning.
 
Spot on. Spurs is the only game where I felt we were under the cosh, the other games were nowhere near as much open.
The games I felt we were conceding more chances than we needed to were Leicester, Bournemouth and Brighton. I know Burnley did actually score 2 against us but they were literally their only chances. Since Smalling's come in we've conceded less chances and look solid. Against Palace we were missing 5 of our front 6 which meant our "defending from the front" was non-existent compared to previous games, and we really only conceded due to an individual error.
 
I think it's amazing that Ole has done as well as he has yet he still has to prove himself despite setting 2 records already as a manager (most wins to start a managerial career and record for consecutive away wins), yet we are ready to just give this job to a manager from another club without a try out. If Ole doesn't get named as our permanent manager then the shit is going to hit the fan...

Actually it's probably more like the shit (and loads of it to boot) had already chunked up and spattered the fan and half pooled around the base and caked in places when he took over whilst the board initially tried to do their best to keep on adding huge glops onto it of which ole was having none of.

But yes technically more shit can hit the fan absolutely.
 
Again, you make good points. But I don't feel like I've ever seen United operate a high press in the Klopp/Pep style at any point. Perhaps I haven't been looking closely enough.

Only in parts of games, and more at the beginning of his reign, and more Klopp-style (sprints upfield towards ballbearer and potential recipients) than Pep-style (packing the team around ballbearer for ten seconds). We actually started with this under Mourinho against Arsenal and City last season. But I don’t think Mourinho trains his teams in a way that would make them able to sustain those kinds of exertions for long, I’m tempted to speculate he was talked into trying it more this season, but we were severely punished trying to sustain that kind of pressure against Brighton and Spurs early in the season, so it was back to Mou’s plan A.

I’m also guessing Solskjær and co started noticing the team was trained for a certain kind of football even before the injuries set in, as in my mind they started to ease up on the proportion of high pressing already after Newcastle.

It’ll be interesting to see how it will look after a full preseason, though. As you can tell, I’m guessing quite a bit so far ...
 
I think we did the first few games of Ole's reign but then as we saw the fitness wasn't there and we looked knackered after 70 minutes so I think he has dropped them back a bit further and only press that high when we have the numbers in position. Might also be be wanting to get the defensive unit organised first as he said the other day that the defence was being pulled all over the place.

Maybe we will see it next season once they have had a proper pre season conditioning.

I think in addition to dialing back the pressing due to fitness issues, it also works as having sent a message: 'As you've all seen, wWe can play that way and get results. So don't try to come at us like you've been wont to do the past few years anymore. You do that and we'll just turn this back on.'
 
Only in parts of games, and more at the beginning of his reign, and more Klopp-style (sprints upfield towards ballbearer and potential recipients) than Pep-style (packing the team around ballbearer for ten seconds). We actually started with this under Mourinho against Arsenal and City last season. But I don’t think Mourinho trains his teams in a way that would make them able to sustain those kinds of exertions for long, I’m tempted to speculate he was talked into trying it more this season, but we were severely punished trying to sustain that kind of pressure against Brighton and Spurs early in the season, so it was back to Mou’s plan A.

I’m also guessing Solskjær and co started noticing the team was trained for a certain kind of football even before the injuries set in, as in my mind they started to ease up on the proportion of high pressing already after Newcastle.

It’ll be interesting to see how it will look after a full preseason, though. As you can tell, I’m guessing quite a bit so far ...

Good post. I guess you need a really decent sized and super fit squad to high press for a whole season.
 
Ole went on the Men in Blazers podcast and discussed everything about taking over as manager for Man United. It's a good listen, and Rog does very well to keep the conversation interesting and flowing.

Thanks for posting. Enjoyed listening to that
 
I was going to start a thread on this, but I’ll just ask here...

If United DON’T hire him.. Where do you think he ends up?

Surely United’s best performing manager since Ferguson doesn’t stay at Molde next season..
 
Does anyone see the comparsion to Black Sails series that Ole ( manager) is Captain Flint and Mike Phelan is Hal Gates as a representative of the team’s interests ? Mike looks similar to Gates.
 
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I was going to start a thread on this, but I’ll just ask here...

If United DON’T hire him.. Where do you think he ends up?

Surely United’s best performing manager since Ferguson doesn’t stay at Molde next season..
I imagine he'd take a job at a struggling Schalke level club and do badly tbh. Then again he could just take the job here and do amazing
 
I reckon he's got the job. However, I don't think we should announce it yet. The press and everything will make it a distraction and right now we're in a right old battle to get top four. All concentration needs to be on our games. Let's just get through this without adding anymore unnecessary attention.
 
Ole went on the Men in Blazers podcast and discussed everything about taking over as manager for Man United. It's a good listen, and Rog does very well to keep the conversation interesting and flowing.

This must be the show that airs on US NBC TV tomorrow at 2:30.
 
Rooney still only putting the success down to bringing smiles to players faces i see.

Did you read the article?

Rooney continued: "I remember when I was a young lad, I was on the bench, and I was sat next to Ole Gunnar, and he said to me, ‘just keep watching the strikers and the defenders and watch them, watch their movements, and keep visualising what runs you can make when you come on’."
 
Ole went on the Men in Blazers podcast and discussed everything about taking over as manager for Man United. It's a good listen, and Rog does very well to keep the conversation interesting and flowing.



That's one of my favourite interviews of all time.

'I took the Cardiff job because I thought if I did well in a tough situation United might consider me'
 
I reckon he's got the job. However, I don't think we should announce it yet. The press and everything will make it a distraction and right now we're in a right old battle to get top four. All concentration needs to be on our games. Let's just get through this without adding anymore unnecessary attention.
This is very important. Let’s keep the tension till the end of the season. Also since the players loved him so much they will fight even harder to make sure he gets the job. We know this lot from these past few years and they need the determination. It’s still to early to announce anything.
 
Good post. I guess you need a really decent sized and super fit squad to high press for a whole season.

Sounds like probably a very fair assumption. I think José Mourinho, who did best with a set eleven and who contrary to popular belief knows a whole heap about what it takes for a team to perform at the top, several times has stated that certain types of playstyles is impossible to keep going in three tournaments for a whole season without heavy rotation. With very few exceptions, I think he’s very right about that. (Phew, it’s so good he’s out of the house now!).
 
I love how in a weird sort of way he’s putting the onus back onto the players without even appearing to do so. Jose was too direct. He would come straight out and say ‘we’ve got loads of injuries/we need better players/they didn’t want it enough’. The players could hide behind the fact there were injuries, or some players were getting thrown under the bus.

With Ole, there’s nowhere to hide. It’s all ‘yeah we’ve got injuries but we’re Manchester United, all our players are more than good enough to win the game’. The players will not only be filled with confidence but also thinking “oh...we’d better go out and prove we’re good players then.” That’s how you man manage football players.
 
Everyone knows I'd like to stay of course, but that's not decided until the end of the season. But if it's me as a supporter or manager they should still buy their season tickets because the club is going somewhere.

It’ll be so nice to have a manager who wants to fecking be here.
 
Completely deserves the job on a full time basis. Done an amazing job so far.
 
For a few years now I've held the view that we have some fecking good footballers in every position. We haven't had as strong a squad as City for a while but with the right selections our starting 11 has had the potential to match anyones in the period mentioned above.
At the time of Mourinho's sacking I thought whoever took over had an impossible job on their hands. I only thought this because I thought he drained our players to the point where they were impossible to motivate again...

Obviously I misread the psyche of modern day pros who, despite earn obscene amounts of money, are ultimately young men playing the sport they grown up adoring.

Ole is probably tactically naive as it stands and will learn harshly from certain games but I think he gets the whole mentality of not only being a professional but also playing for United.

Just give it the man and let us all carry on enjoying it.
 
Still winning his own league by some margin.

http://solskjaertabellen.com/ (I love the website :drool:)

+5 points to Liverpool and City
+7 to Arsenal
+8 to Spurs
+13 to Chelsea

It tells you everything about how disastrous was our situation before he came, that even after a run like this we're still 5th and 6th if Chelsea win his remaining league game. Even the excellence in terms of results and breaking historic records every week could not be enough to get us top-4.

I say this in anticipation, because if we ended up 5th or 6th I can see some people telling how he isn't good enough because the man isn't able to get even a top 4 place in the league. So when we analyze things let's remember where we come from and the general context.

No pre-season, no signings, learning about his players and changing our approach along the way, and still getting more points than the league challengers. I'm not sure if everyone is aware of the magnificence of all this.
Rude domain name.

But I love the content. Ole has been ahead of other managers since He became our manager. Give Ole the job when the season's finished! :drool:
 
Sounds like probably a very fair assumption. I think José Mourinho, who did best with a set eleven and who contrary to popular belief knows a whole heap about what it takes for a team to perform at the top, several times has stated that certain types of playstyles is impossible to keep going in three tournaments for a whole season without heavy rotation. With very few exceptions, I think he’s very right about that. (Phew, it’s so good he’s out of the house now!).

He was right about quite a few things unfortunately. He has many many faults but he was also quite astute. I actually liked that he was too proud to try to lie well, even if it was function of a terribly unhelpful ego.