Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4

Is Ole a good appointment?


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With regards to Ole performance against Liverpool, he did not pass my assessment that I placed before. The substitution of Lingard did not make any sense, when he knew he was not fit. Sanchez would have come on and used another sub later on to alter the game. However, Ole did reveal to me, how good our current defense is and how he has done well to organize our leaky back line. I already knew that Linderlof and Smalling were our best center back pairing, but young and Shaw showed to me that signing fullbacks may not be too much of a priority. Shaw in particular impressed me. Either way, Ole did not lose and did well to nullify Salah, so good performance and results at the end of the day.

Reply to my post about the squad pochettin0 inherited & the players he has actually bought - alpt of them being average.

That has nothing to do with your emoticon post, but I already stated that the squad Pochettino inherited was a mid table squad. There team averaged a 6th place finished so, he did not inherit a top team or an expensive one like Ole did. The players Pochettino bought in were not comparable to what United bought in. Pochettino developed most of his players to become good players, whereas Ole is yet to be tested on the market, but his predecessor bought in a lot of high profile players.
 
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Nice response, you could at list which evaluation that you think is inaccurate. Some may say that Ali is worth near £200m, but I find that claim laughable. I don’t know any sane club that will pay that much for him.

Reply to my post about the squad pochettin0 inherited & the players he has actually bought - alpt of them being average.
 
He probably made a mistake with a Lingard but otherwise I'm delighted with his team's display today. Superb stuff.
I don't think he made a mistake with Lingard. If he was on the bench then his injury would have healed and the only reason he wasn't started was because he might have just been fit to play 30 minutes or so. They wouldn't have put him on the bench if his injury hadn't healed. So the fact he lasted 20 odd minutes I don't think you can blame on Ole or his substitution.

But agreed it was a great team display given the players who were missing from the start and then the forced subs. Also worth saying Ole is starting to show he has the tactical knowledge I thought might be lacking in whether him or Poch. The win over Chelsea and this is showing he (and his team) and getting there!!!

Very happy if we offered him the job now after this tough 14 days or so
 
I know it sounds stupid but it would actually be a harder job to follow Solskjaer than SAF as SAF was retired and no chance of coming back. To bring someone else in instead of Solskjaer after making the decision to get rid of him would leave the new manager in a nearly impossible position.
Ole is getting the job, I am 100% sure of that


You are right, and nobody expected this, I think some still find it hard to believe.

He has had different problems to deal with and has risen to them all.
The life is back in the club and its fans, the media and even opposition fans have
grudgingly agreed he has made a difference.
I even read a Liverpool fan describe him as the type of manager United should have.

I doubt any one could have done better, and in premier league history, no manager
has ever got 26 points in his first ten matches.

PSG did not go well, that night PSG were another level, imagine what Ole could do
with a transfer window and pre season training.

It would be an unnecessary gamble to give it to any one else.
 
it also shows how unfit we were left by the last clown . no team has injury crisis like this especially in attacking positions.
 
For the first time I'm leaning towards Ole. The players clearly like him and play for him, he even did the impossible and got OT rocking. Best to wait a bit more, but it's hard to not give it to him.
 
it also shows how unfit we were left by the last clown . no team has injury crisis like this especially in attacking positions.

What?

We’ve had an injury crisis like this every year for the last decade. :lol:
 
He probably made a mistake with a Lingard but otherwise I'm delighted with his team's display today. Superb stuff.
I think it says a lot about Sanchez's standing at the club that a half fit lingard got picked ahead of him. That a player who's fitness was a gamble was viewed as less of a risk than a fit Sanchez. There's a few players in the squad that the manager clearly views as being dead weight. The fact that Sanchez and Fred are two of them shows how badly we need someone who knows what they're doing in charge of transfer business.
 
What?

We’ve had an injury crisis like this every year for the last decade. :lol:

The injury crisis is not new.

I do think Oles style of play requires a greater fitness than Joses, LVHG and Moyes style, and they are not prepared for that,
but I have no doubt that under Oles leadership they are keen to take that step up
 
Look at the positive side of Lingard sub. Had he subbed Sanchez before lingard, we would have been left with 10 men.
 
Gomes, chong and greenwood if he's fit will be rubbing their hands together for the palace and southampton fixtures. The sheer amount of forwards who are injured/doubtful means that they've got to make the squad. Garner might fancy his chances of making the squad as well if matic and Herrera are both out.
 
Ole was brilliant tactically today, the Lingard risk was worth it IMO. We had injuries beforehand,during the match and rashford was limping. Yet with depleted resources and players people here complain about constantly we nullified liverpool and created the best chances.

Would have loved a win but given the bad luck it was a great performance
 
With regards to Ole performance against Liverpool, he did not pass my assessment that I placed before. The substitution of Lingard did not make any sense, when he knew he was not fit. Sanchez would have come on and used another sub later on to alter the game. However, Ole did reveal to me, how good our current defense is and how he has done well to organize our leaky back line. I already knew that Linderlof and Smalling were our best center back pairing, but young and Shaw showed to me that signing fullbacks may not be too much of a priority. Shaw in particular impressed me. Either way, Ole did not lose and did well to nullify Salah, so good performance and results at the end of the day.



That has nothing to do with your emoticon post, but I already stated that the squad Pochettino inherited was a mid table squad. There team averaged a 6th place finished so, he did not inherit a top team or an expensive one like Ole did. The players Pochettino bought in were not comparable to what United bought in. Pochettino developed most of his players to become good players, whereas Ole is yet to be tested on the market, but his predecessor bought in a lot of high profile players.

But Pochettino should have failed the assessment test miserably against Burnley yesterday?
 
For the first time I'm leaning towards Ole. The players clearly like him and play for him, he even did the impossible and got OT rocking. Best to wait a bit more, but it's hard to not give it to him.

For the first time?
Were the triple away wins at Spurs, Arse and Chelsea not even a slight move to him?
 
Can you just preach to yourself the bolded bit?
I never set that standard to assess Ole in every game. I understand there are times when anomalies happens, so to do that it would be ridiculous. I only set this assessment to see if he can put in a complete performance against a top team and as the stat showed, he didn’t with Liverpool being more dominant in most area of the game.
 
For the first time?
Were the triple away wins at Spurs, Arse and Chelsea not even a slight move to him?

Nah that impressive, but thought it's best to wait and see how he did over over a longer period of time. I was set on Poch in all honesty.
 
He looked like a proper leader today. When all the injury stuff was going on he was liaising with staff and players and took a real grip of the situation. He looked calm and in control.
 
It's his job to lose now. Will give him stick about the Lingard sub but otherwise well done to him. Players clearly love playing for him and he's mostly made the right decisions.

Would be surprised if we don't pay off Molde by end of this season.
 
It shows how far marooned from top 4 that Jose had us that even after a sensational run with a point against all odds today we've still dropped back out of the top 4.

Tough fixtures in the last 11
Chelsea, City at home
Arsenal, Everton, Wolves away.

Can probably include Palace in that aways list too in the circumstances.
 
I thought we were great today. Nullofied liverpool quite easily and probably should have won.

The only misstep was arguably lingard on instead of sanchez.

But yeah i am more and more convinced that ole is the man to take us forward. I'd still wait for the end of the season but its gone very well so far.

We've now played Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs and won 3 of them (all away), drawing the other whilst managing a bizarre injury crisis. And we were the better side in 3 of those games as well.
 
I never set that standard to assess Ole in every game. I understand there are times when anomalies happens, so to do that it would be ridiculous. I only set this assessment to see if he can put in a complete performance against a top team and as the stat showed, he didn’t with Liverpool being more dominant in most area of the game.

How in the hell are you getting away with this shit? Pull up Pochettino's results against top teams in England.. Wait a minute, it's not about the results anymore then isn't it?
 
Am i the only one who thinks that while our defence is great and we don't allow oppo teams to even shoot, our attacking is not that good lately? We don't create chances and midfield not keeping ball well? Just saying
 
Being disappointed with draw against a Liverpool team trying to win the Premiership with a depleted team is a fantastic achievement. Not sure anyone should have a legitimate argument against his appointment at this point in time.
 
I don't believe there's a strong enough argument for breaking the bank for Pochettino. Short of us turning back into the side we were before Ole came, in the next month or so, then he should get it and be given the green light to identify his transfer targets.
 
Maybe subbing on Lingard after 25 minutes wasn't the best idea, but on the other hand the alternative was Sanchez, so it's kind of understandable.
 
Must say some of the negativity in here is mind blowing, so mind blowing i actually had to create an account after two months of just reading this thread as a bystander.

The record should speak for itself, after watching what Mourinho did with United in the first half of this season? I mean, 11-2-1 in 14 matches after that?

And im not even sure todays Lingard-sub was a miss. Maybe they knew he was a risk and that Rashford could run it off, wouldnt it be better to put in Lingard for Mata instead of Sanchez, so that IF Lingard was injured they wouldnt be a man down, all things concidered? It might as well have been a stroke of genius if you change the perspective.

Anyways, im not here to lecture anyone, just wanted to speak my mind as well.

All in all I think Ole may be the perfect fit to United after seeing the turn around. United through and through.

Will continue to bystander status, wish you all the best for the rest of the season!
 
Lingard sub aside, Ole showing he has the stuff to make the job permanent.
Even the Lingard sub shows that he was brave and was trying to effect a positive change. We know Sanchez is crap and Ole said in his post match presser that Jesse was deemed fit enough for 60-75 minutes. So yes it was a risk and Ole took that risk with a view to be positive. I fully respect that.
 
Honestly I want him and his team here. My biggest fear was that he might get a lesson or two from the other big team managers but so far we never looked like we were played of the pitch by any of the other big teams. If we can bring in someone who can help him do a good job in the transfer market and spotting the right talents he will have a great managerial career with us as well.
 
I thought Sanchez did alright today. He worked hard and provided a bit of an outlet. He'll get a run in the side now you'd think too

Against palace I'd keep the back four from today then have Fred, McTominay and Perriera, with Pogba behind Lukaku and Sanchez.

If Martial is fit then play him instead of Lukaku
 
The biggest compliment I can give him other than everything that has already been said is just how much confidence tactically I now have in our defence (don;t want to jinx it!)

Just watch the way our players understand instinctively which areas to cover to protect that box when we're being attacked.
Always vigilant tracking of runners without being obsessive, players back into a nice shape and essentially showing teams down the wings to stop teams playing through us which ironically was all too easy under Mou.

Often you'll see the top RF and RM cover each other if either of them goes to press. If both go, another Mid or the CF often drops to cover the space created etc. Just really interesting how Ole is settling us into a traditional post-Quieroz SAF defensive shape where players are growing and learning what to do when x player of ours goes and loses the ball; we rarely panic and always have covers available.

Can't wait to see what ole does now he has injuries aplenty and look forward to him being backed by the board and assemble a squad to fight on all fronts.
Onwards.
 
I don't think he's had a break after initial run of games, constantly being tested due to big matches, injury and personnel problems.

Job is his for next 3 years if he steers us to a Top 4 finish.
 
It's like the games since December have been set up as an audition.
First, some easy ones to warm up. Then step up the challenge game by game. Then, throw in some injuries to key players to see how Ole copes. And lastly, add injuries to key players during a match to verify a correct answer to the challenges.
 
I don't think he's had a break after initial run of games, constantly being tested due to big matches, injury and personnel problems.

Job is his for next 3 years if he steers us to a Top 4 finish.

For me, it should be his even if we do not finish Top 4.

He did enough to show that he can handle the job.
 
Honestly I want him and his team here. My biggest fear was that he might get a lesson or two from the other big team managers but so far we never looked like we were played of the pitch by any of the other big teams. If we can bring in someone who can help him do a good job in the transfer market and spotting the right talents he will have a great managerial career with us as well.

Whoever comes in is going to lose games against the top teams so it's unfair to apply a unique set of criteria to OGS. Every one was saying we need to how he does against PSG, Chelsea and Liverpool, Well he's had a W, D and an L and wasn't really humiliated either. Very unlucky with the injuries.

I guess people will just keep kicking the can down the road waiting for him to have a run of defeats so that they can bleat on about Poch.