Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4

[OohAahMartial]

If the reports are correct let us look at his for a better word qualifications : As a player won 6 Premier League Titles, 2 FA Cups, 2 Community Shields, 1 Champions League and 1 Intercontinental Cup plus averaged a 1 goal every 3 games including at International level.
As a manager with Utd : Premier Reserve League 1, Premier League North 1, Lancashire Senior Cup 1, Lancashire Cup 1
As a manager with Molde : League 2, Cup 1
Awards in his own country : Knight of Order of St Olav First Class. Knikesen Award 1, Coach of the Year 2 and in 2009 an award for his efforts in coaching;
There is experience there both at a senior and junior level, his only failure was Cardiff City and that would he tried to adopt an attacking game plan which was above the level of his squad's skill range.

As a manager with Utd : Premier Reserve League 1, Premier League North 1, Lancashire Senior Cup 1, Lancashire Cup 1

Not sure why everyone is ignoring this. He has already won more trophies as a manager at United than Jose. This actual experience alone makes him a very suitable interim manager. He even trained many of our young players. I think too many remember only Cardiff and know nothing of what he has done at Molde or for us as reserve manager.

 

[OneUnited24]

Spot on. Having Phelan in with him is a sign that this is largely designed to appease the fanbase and bring a bit of the old days back. It's a pretty shrewd hire, but it also indicates that we've made peace with not making top 4 this year.

I think Phelan apointment is also acknowledging that we need a second in charge who knows how to train the first team. I’ve often wondered what we do in training because we look so poor in games. Maybe Phelan will help improve that.

As many have said this season is a free hit now. We aren’t going to be relegated (hopefully ) and a good cup run is probably the best we can hope for. Let’s just get back to playing good football. I live in Melbourne now so I just want something that’s going to make me want to wake up in the middle of the night!

 

[OverratedOpinion]

We have sacked Jose and replaced him with ole. I seriously can’t believe how this is seen as a positive. He has managed a Norwegian team who should win the league every year and actually managed not to do that, he has managed Cardiff and got them relegated. Jose has won countless top trophies and will go on to win more. Ole won’t.

I mean only on the caf can this be seen as a positive.

I could be proven wrong and history re-writes itself but what an incredibly incompetent decision given the facts in front of you.

We are officially in a similar decline to the scousers after their successful period and the worrying thing is our fans are following in the same footsteps thinking these nostalgic decisions are good ones.

We have sacked Jose, that was the priority. Ole is here to improve the mood for the last few months of a season which is already a write off whilst we set about improving the infrastructure behind the scenes and find the right manager to take us forward long term.

Also for what it is worth, Molde have been around for over 100 years and Ole has been at the helm for over half their league title wins. I am not sure why you would expect them to win it every year when they have only won it 3 times ever and were nearly relegated the season before he first took over.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

I have a really good feeling about this appointment, as a matter of fact I think he’ll be here next season.

 

[AltiUn]

Has the newby system been relaxed or something? Because some of these newbies are spouting absolute nonsense. Anyhow they wont last long if they keep it up.

This place is getting more and more like Rawk lately.

Believe it was changed not too long back because new posters weren't sticking around as much. I will say I've noticed a lot more good newbies than bad ones, just the bad ones draw more attention to themselves.

 

[mannbeist]

We have sacked Jose and replaced him with ole. I seriously can’t believe how this is seen as a positive. He has managed a Norwegian team who should win the league every year and actually managed not to do that, he has managed Cardiff and got them relegated. Jose has won countless top trophies and will go on to win more. Ole won’t.

I mean only on the caf can this be seen as a positive.

I could be proven wrong and history re-writes itself but what an incredibly incompetent decision given the facts in front of you.

We are officially in a similar decline to the scousers after their successful period and the worrying thing is our fans are following in the same footsteps thinking these nostalgic decisions are good ones.

Molde is not the leading team in Norway. Might be the 2nd strongest team financially, but Rosenborg is the biggest team by far.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Are people really serious that Keane was ever a possibility? He spent the last 2 years ripping into the club and players.

No.

 

[All 3 United]

What reputable top-class manager wants to come in as a 'stop gap' at a club that's struggling in relation to where it wants to be?

Yeah let's get Guardiola in for six months.

Look I have issues with Ole as much as the next person. He's done 'good' at Molde, not amazing, and his spell at Cardiff was a disaster but I also think it was a bad fit. He hasn't done anything to prove himself as a Manchester United manager basically; or a top-class manager at all.

BUT, at the same time he is coming in for six months. He knows the club inside and out, he knows the identity, he'll get the fans and players on his side, he is a disciple of Fergie and will no doubt be seeking his advice on the regular while here and I think he'll lean on Carrick/McKenna/Butt/Murtough etc. heavily.

He's only here to stop the rot so to speak while we create a long term strategy in the mean time. He's here to steady the ship and give some calm and hope to a turbulent squad that looks lost. Come summer we'll have a DoF who has evaluated the squad, a seemingly steady background of coaches and a progressive manager like Poch.

It could be disaster, I agree with that, but I'm willing to get behind Ole and give him a fair crack as an interim manager.

It's kind of silly, kind of logical. Could go either way.

All this appointment will do is lower expectations even further. When Saf left, it was we should still be able to put a title challenge in, then LVG top 4 finish would be good, similar if not slightly higher when Jose came in. Ole, well top half and some attacking football will do. We just go from car crash to car crash.

 

[shamans]

Are people really serious that Keane was ever a possibility? He spent the last 2 years ripping into the club and players.

Didn't think Keane was a possibility but Keane recently has been a much sane critic than the likes of Nevile

 

[Snow]

The only thing you can expect from an interrim manager is to not do worse. At least the new manager will have time before the PSG matches to acclamate to the squad because as far as the season goes not embarrassing ourselves against them is almost the only thing there's left.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

No.

Made me chuckle people were even saying Cantona, does he even have a badge never mind a coaching one .

 

[freeurmind]

Im from Norway and support the biggest rival of Molde. Comparing United and Molde is like a comparison from formel 1 to your average car. I dont think its about what he has done at Cardiff either but more being able to get the players become a unit again. Mid season and the role as caretaker you cant do an all over change and probably no new players either. Advantage is that Pogba, Rashford and other players know him and hes respected. Hope it goes well and the team at least tries their best for the remaining season.

Thanks for that. Obviously it's a step up but hopefully he can do a job for us.

 

[Paxi]

I have a really good feeling about this appointment, as a matter of fact I think he’ll be here next season.

I would love nothing more if he spent the next 25 years here if he managed to pull it out of the hat. Who knows, maybe it's written in the stars. One can dream.

If Ole gets us looking like a proper team again then he should seriously be considered. It's a 6 months job interview for him and I'd fecking love it if he got it.

 

[bond19821982]

We have sacked Jose and replaced him with ole. I seriously can’t believe how this is seen as a positive. He has managed a Norwegian team who should win the league every year and actually managed not to do that, he has managed Cardiff and got them relegated. Jose has won countless top trophies and will go on to win more. Ole won’t.

I mean only on the caf can this be seen as a positive.

I could be proven wrong and history re-writes itself but what an incredibly incompetent decision given the facts in front of you.

We are officially in a similar decline to the scousers after their successful period and the worrying thing is our fans are following in the same footsteps thinking these nostalgic decisions are good ones.

Relax, I am with you on this but hey its only until end of the season . As long as he doesn't drag us to Relegation fight, I am fine.
If he fails , these romantic choices are done. No one will ever mention that again.

 

[0le]

All this appointment will do is lower expectations even further. When Saf left, it was we should still be able to put a title challenge in, then LVG top 4 finish would be good, similar if not slightly higher when Jose came in. Ole, well top half and some attacking football will do. We just go from car crash to car crash.

Jose lowered expectation all by himself.

 

[shamans]

What people don't understand is we were regressing with Mourinho. It was so bad that the club couldn't wait for the end of the season.

At lease with Ole the regression will end. Even if we stay the same, it's a decent platform for the next manage. However, my dream scenario is we go on a winning streak, win the champions league and then Ole stays

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

Didn't think Keane was a possibility but Keane recently has been a much sane critic than the likes of Nevile

Yeah I know he clearly still loves the badge and club. I don’t think he is in love with the board or players.

 

[Shark]

All this appointment will do is lower expectations even further. When Saf left, it was we should still be able to put a title challenge in, then LVG top 4 finish would be good, similar if not slightly higher when Jose came in. Ole, well top half and some attacking football will do. We just go from car crash to car crash.

Our league season is dead, we can’t do anything else but ride it out. Even if we brought Poch in now the odds of us shooting up the table and rescuing something are slim. Let’s just be happy the board acted earlier than expected and hopefully there’s a solid plan put in place over the next 5 months or so.

 

[peridigm]

Should stop the Ole chants by opposition fans at least.

 

[0le]

Should stop the Ole chants by opposition fans at least.

I liked them.

 

[devilish]

Phelan shouldn't be allowed anywhere near to the club unless he agrees to rewear the magic shorts

 

[amolbhatia50k]

All this appointment will do is lower expectations even further. When Saf left, it was we should still be able to put a title challenge in, then LVG top 4 finish would be good, similar if not slightly higher when Jose came in. Ole, well top half and some attacking football will do. We just go from car crash to car crash.

Let's be clear here. Expectations are this low for the season due to Mourinho. Top 4 is pretty much done with. We're just trying to set up *something* for next season.

 

[Rhyme Animal]

Anyone worried?

If things go pear shape we might get relegated.

I'm hoping for the best but something tells me its not that easy.

Yeah, I think this is potentially a really dangerous move...

It's underestimating the PL I reckon.

Mourinho needed to go, but this is cronyism - as with the hiring of Moyes, and I just can't believe that there isn't a better option FOR THE CLUB than Ole...

And that for me is where it's dangerous - making decisions that are not the best option for the club, and making those decisions because of either sentiment, or contacts.

It's like we just can't do anything in a normal, functional manner as a club. One good decision just has to be followed by some bizarre, baffling gamble that seems utterly needless.

Watching those Molde highlights, it made me think of the Fulham game - a game that if you watched highlights would make you think that Mourinho's Utd were in incredible form.

And I'd add to that the defending from Fulham is better than that clip of Molde's opponents...

Again, Mourinho needed to go, but a few weeks ago he beat Juve away.

Coming into the Utd job is pressure management - interim or not. And coming into the PL - a league that completely brushed Ole aside the last time he was here isn't a joke.

Other PL teams are in the middle of their season - they're getting stuck in and fighting. We're dealing with drama, have utterly no direction, and I imagine could quite easily lose focus in that dressing room.

And also, Mike Phelan? Who is making these decisions?

Have Ole and Phelan worked together in management before? Why is Phelan needed in this dynamic?

He's hit out at Pogba in the press before, has his stint at Hull really impressed that much?

I mean, it's not really that far off getting Moyes back for 6 months.

The chance to manage players like we have is a massive opportunity for most managers. And the chance to showcase your abilities at Man Utd for 6 months is something that basically all out of work, or lower league or championship managers would jump at.

I just think that replacing Mourinho with cronyism and jobs for the boys is a big risk, and also a bit of a cop-out.

Like I said earlier, I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Champagne Football]

Good choice. Get Ole and Paul Mitchell in now.

Start playing attacking football again to get the best out of Fred and Pogba etc and play a style similar to what Pochettino will play so no major adjustments if he comes. Attacking tactics will reveal if Jose or Pogba was the real virus.

Mitchell who has worked with Poch will have 6 months to identify what is needed in secret talks with Poch and they can also decide who needs to go after that.

 

[0le]

Phelan shouldn't be allowed anywhere near to the club unless he agrees to rewear the magic shorts

Never understood the hate for Phelan. Fergie was the one who appointed him and we won the league with him on staff. Fergie always listened to his assistant managers to stay fresh. Quieroz was an important example. I'm not sure what evidence there is to suggest Phelan was a poor staff member.

 

[Matst1]

Genuine question, but how?

Don't get me wrong, I hope he succeeds, and ends up as permanent manager, maybe with a DOF, but how is he the perfect choice?

He has very limited experience, and none of us know anything about his management or playing style (unless you do?).

It'll be great seeing him in the dugout at OT, but to me this looks like a massive risk.

This is the perfect example of how poorly this club is run. Get the lovable ex-player in to appease the fans. Feck the fans, I want success! Let success look after the fans. Woodward is treating this place like Disneyland. Lauren Blanc would have made more sense. I hope Ole does well but can't see it.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

Good choice. Get Ole and Paul Mitchell in now.

Start playing attacking football again to get the best out of Fred and Pogba etc and play a style similar to what Pochettino will play so no major adjustments if he comes. Attacking tactics will reveal if Jose or Pogba was the real virus.

Mitchell who has worked with Poch will have 6 months to identify what is needed in secret talks with Poch and they can also decide who needs to go after that.

Why did Mitchell leave us in the first place? Only 2 years after he was hired.

 

[Leftback99]

All this appointment will do is lower expectations even further. When Saf left, it was we should still be able to put a title challenge in, then LVG top 4 finish would be good, similar if not slightly higher when Jose came in. Ole, well top half and some attacking football will do. We just go from car crash to car crash.

Who would you have got in and where would you expect them to finish?

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Wait, is Phelan confirmed? Really?

 

[Jam]

All this appointment will do is lower expectations even further. When Saf left, it was we should still be able to put a title challenge in, then LVG top 4 finish would be good, similar if not slightly higher when Jose came in. Ole, well top half and some attacking football will do. We just go from car crash to car crash.

But he's interim while we create a long term strategy to challenge for the title consistently.

I hate to break it to you mate but we're in December and we're not going to win the title this season. The top four is possible but unlikely, so let's make a go of it for the rest of the rest and at least be somewhat progressive and air off the cobwebs.

Ole isn't here as a 'settle for top half'.

Next season we'll have a leading manager and an actual plan behind 'Hire X and hope they work'.

Everything with this appointment has to be taken with context. Just saying 'Ole is the new United manager' sounds a lot worse than the actual situation at hand.

 

[Camy89]

Strange one.

Feels to me the board are aware of the growing animosity towards them from the fans (well, towards Ed) so they’ve thought ‘Right, how can we get them on our side for a bit whilst we decide what the feck we’re doing?’

‘Aha, appoint the guy that won then the treble in ‘99, that’ll please them, he does some managing nowadays’.

Don’t get me wrong, I like the guy...just feels...weird.

 

[devilish]

Never understood the hate for Phelan. Fergie was the one who appointed him and we won the league with him on staff. Fergie always listened to his assistant managers to stay fresh. Quieroz was an important example. I'm not sure what evidence there is to suggest Phelan was a poor staff member.

No hate gaffer. That magic shorts brings luck

 

[All 3 United]

Who would you have got in and where would you expect them to finish?

No idea but I would have had a better backup plan than some ex player who has a shite managerial record. Even Carrick would have been a better choice at least there would be some sort of hope on him being a good manager. That ship has already sailed with Ole.

 

[Grylte]

Ugh, state of this.

Let's just hope the newbie system does its job.

 

[Snowjoe]

No hate gaffer. That magic shorts brings luck

People think that Fergie leaving was our downfall but it was actually Phelans magic shorts leaving.

 

[Theonas]

Apologies if someone posted it already but any idea how his Molde and Cardiff usually set up?

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

We have sacked Jose and replaced him with ole. I seriously can’t believe how this is seen as a positive. He has managed a Norwegian team who should win the league every year and actually managed not to do that, he has managed Cardiff and got them relegated. Jose has won countless top trophies and will go on to win more. Ole won’t.

I mean only on the caf can this be seen as a positive.

I could be proven wrong and history re-writes itself but what an incredibly incompetent decision given the facts in front of you.

We are officially in a similar decline to the scousers after their successful period and the worrying thing is our fans are following in the same footsteps thinking these nostalgic decisions are good ones.

Pretty sure Cardiff were shite before Ole. His mistake was taking that job.

As for Molde, Rosenberg had an almost monopoly on the Eliteserien.... Ole won back to back titles for a club that never had.

Not greatest of credentials I know but he's being asked to just tread water. If Phelan is there, that should be a boost too... was always a good No.2 and knows club as player and coach.

We've accepted top.4 is a 1% chance and aim now is to keep players happy, not rock the boat, get the positivity back, prepare for next manager.

 

[OohAahMartial]

Yeah, I think this is potentially a really dangerous move...

It's underestimating the PL I reckon.

Mourinho needed to go, but this is cronyism - as with the hiring of Moyes, and I just can't believe that there isn't a better option FOR THE CLUB than Ole...

And that for me is where it's dangerous - making decisions that are not the best option for the club, and making those decisions because of either sentiment, or contacts.

It's like we just can't do anything in a normal, functional manner as a club. One good decision just has to be followed by some bizarre, baffling gamble that seems utterly needless.

Watching those Molde highlights, it made me think of the Fulham game - a game that if you watched highlights would make you think that Mourinho's Utd were in incredible form.

And I'd add to that the defending from Fulham is better than that clip of Molde's opponents...

Again, Mourinho needed to go, but a few weeks ago he beat Juve away.

Coming into the Utd job is pressure management - interim or not. And coming into the PL - a league that completely brushed Ole aside the last time he was here isn't a joke.

Other PL teams are in the middle of their season - they're getting stuck in and fighting. We're dealing with drama, have utterly no direction, and I imagine could quite easily lose focus in that dressing room.

And also, Mike Phelan? Who is making these decisions?

Have Ole and Phelan worked together in management before? Why is Phelan needed in this dynamic?

He's hit out at Pogba in the press before, has his stint at Hull really impressed that much?

I mean, it's not really that far off getting Moyes back for 6 months.

The chance to manage players like we have is a massive opportunity for most managers. And the chance to showcase your abilities at Man Utd for 6 months is something that basically all out of work, or lower league or championship managers would jump at.

I just think that replacing Mourinho with cronyism and jobs for the boys is a big risk, and also a bit of a cop-out.

Like I said earlier, I hope I'm wrong.

I think one has to think of context here. A big concern is that United don't look like a United side any more, neither with LVG or Jose. They have lost their soul and a large number of fans have voiced their concerns for this and have been falling out of love with the club due to it. So at this time having someone who epitomizes the soul of the club is important, who can get us playing like we should.

Regarding cronyism, Zidane at Real, Guardiola (and most of their other managers) were also cronyism, or Liverpool and their old bootroom philosophy, all showed that it works and helps maintain a club philosophy and style. Mike and Ole have already proven what they can offer our club, and need no time familiarising.

 

[Listar]

Yeah, I think this is potentially a really dangerous move...

It's underestimating the PL I reckon.

Mourinho needed to go, but this is cronyism - as with the hiring of Moyes, and I just can't believe that there isn't a better option FOR THE CLUB than Ole...

And that for me is where it's dangerous - making decisions that are not the best option for the club, and making those decisions because of either sentiment, or contacts.

It's like we just can't do anything in a normal, functional manner as a club. One good decision just has to be followed by some bizarre, baffling gamble that seems utterly needless.

Watching those Molde highlights, it made me think of the Fulham game - a game that if you watched highlights would make you think that Mourinho's Utd were in incredible form.

And I'd add to that the defending from Fulham is better than that clip of Molde's opponents...

Again, Mourinho needed to go, but a few weeks ago he beat Juve away.

Coming into the Utd job is pressure management - interim or not. And coming into the PL - a league that completely brushed Ole aside the last time he was here isn't a joke.

Other PL teams are in the middle of their season - they're getting stuck in and fighting. We're dealing with drama, have utterly no direction, and I imagine could quite easily lose focus in that dressing room.

And also, Mike Phelan? Who is making these decisions?

Have Ole and Phelan worked together in management before? Why is Phelan needed in this dynamic?

He's hit out at Pogba in the press before, has his stint at Hull really impressed that much?

I mean, it's not really that far off getting Moyes back for 6 months.

The chance to manage players like we have is a massive opportunity for most managers. And the chance to showcase your abilities at Man Utd for 6 months is something that basically all out of work, or lower league or championship managers would jump at.

I just think that replacing Mourinho with cronyism and jobs for the boys is a big risk, and also a bit of a cop-out.

Like I said earlier, I hope I'm wrong.

Thanks. You just made me worried more.

No posts up to now have made me more confident however. Its all about sentiment and glad that Jose is gone.

I really hope we can get someone like Klopps calibre and Poch is not.

 

[All 3 United]

But he's interim while we create a long term strategy to challenge for the title consistently.

I hate to break it to you mate but we're in December and we're not going to win the title this season. The top four is possible but unlikely, so let's make a go of it for the rest of the rest and at least be somewhat progressive and air off the cobwebs.

Ole isn't here as a 'settle for top half'.

Next season we'll have a leading manager and an actual plan behind 'Hire X and hope they work'.

Everything with this appointment has to be taken with context. Just saying 'Ole is the new United manager' sounds a lot worse than the actual situation at hand.

This appointment is completely wrong on every front. He’s being appointed to be a nodding donkey to the Glazers and Woodward, to mitigate expectations of any signings in January. Player power has won, which can only lead to further discontent.

I don’t know about you but I hate watching united lose and we have just significantly increased the odds of us losing more games for the remaining part of this season than before.

To be writing off a season for club the size of Man Utd in December is utterly unacceptable.