Ole still has the best ever start to a PL managerial reign:
I imagine some others have seven wins out of first eight too.
I imagine some others have seven wins out of first eight too.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4
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I mean he got the line-up wrong and the subs came too late. Herrera is a fit player who hasn't played that much. If Matic can play all these games, Herrera can play the extra match, he's very fit.
How's Herrera injury prone? His injury record isn't bad at all.
still unbeaten though so tis all good. Go Ole!
Feckin hell the knives couldn't wait to come out tonight. Got the selection wrong but loved the spirit in the side to grab the draw. Still love him, still don't want Poch.
Other Team's are lacking strikers and here we find arguments about weakning our strength in depth.
Why not find better creative playmakers and players who can deliver better balls to lukaku to score.
I think Ole reacts a bit too late at times. Should have made the subs at half-time IMO.
And I don't think Lukaku should have been brought off.
Still, he's had a fantastic start.
And I don't think Lukaku should have been brought off.
Still, he's had a fantastic start.
We have really strong games coming. We should put this behind us now and hopefully Ole sticks with the team he picked many times, but without Jones in the back, we need Smalling back. And surely we are in a bad need of few additions. Full backs never good enough, we need a couple at the back line and one C.M and a fecking R.W.
But if Rashford had taken those easy chances we would have won comfortably, so how was the lineup wrong? Did they all jump in front of Rashford and obscure his view of the goal?
We created more than enough chances to win the game, with that line up.
What are you on about? Martial is injured, Lingard can't play every game, same goes for ander. Lukaku played 65-70 then sanchez came on.
We need to rotate but the team selection tonight removed a lot of what has made our attack so threatening. Martial was obviously forced but he really should have left the rest of the team and tactics as intact as possible. I guess his logic was that Burnley would defend in numbers so he wanted creativity and technique by bringing in Pereira and Mata.
Never mind. He made some mistakes tonight but he’s done so much better than most of us dreamed and got the team fighting till the last minute (and beyond). Rescuing a point tonight will be hugely beneficial for confidence.
Never mind. He made some mistakes tonight but he’s done so much better than most of us dreamed and got the team fighting till the last minute (and beyond). Rescuing a point tonight will be hugely beneficial for confidence.
Squad rotation will be his major challenge in the coming weeks. Cant keep picking the same eleven with all those games coming up. Its upto the squad players now to step up when picked.
But he is, compared to matic.
Even still, it's a lot of rotations. He made 3 changes against Arsenal and then another 5 changes today. We have 4 nights rest - he could have opted to keep Herrera or Lingard and rest the others. He could have kept Sanchez rather than swapping Mata in.
Not really one to complain too much on though - I think what he fielded was enough to win the game. Had question marks over Andreas but no one could have guessed that he'd be this bad.
Of course, but players miss chances just as they make chances out of nothing, should the manager get less credit for those goals?
All this.
If Ole gets 4th, or even comes close to it, and we don't give him the job, I will be furious and sad.
Its the Burnley curse. What can you do.
Mabye starting Periera, Mata and Lukaku together wasnt the greatest idea, but Ole is rapidly learning which players he can count on. I still hope he gets the job full time and he is allowed to make a few drastic changes this summer. Selling Lukaku and Sanchez and freeing up the wage bill to bring in an elite RW and CB and we'll be challenging for titles next year.
We didn't go all guns blazing in the first half like we have done in many of those earlier games and looked like we were conserving energies; saying that, we still comfortably controlled the game and a goal was always a matter of when. Andreas then decided it would be a great - for the sake of Caftards - if we show this 'bounce back' thing that everyone keeps talking about and sucker punched us: went seriously downhill after that in terms of our approach. We had no creative interplays and weirdly persisted almost relentlessly with putting in shite cross after shite cross Ole could have done much better there, taking off Lukaku whilst continuing to play like that made it all the more bizarre.
Can't fault the team for their spirit though and it properly brang back those Fergie Time™ feelz; made for a cracking end to the game to come back from 2 nil down. Too much rotation-induced tinkering to the system cost us tonight but hopefully Ole learns from this. Disappointing - for sure, but teams will drop points and we are still to play both Arsenal and Chelsea so I still feel it's very much in our hands.
Finally, you really can't blame the manager for our crap Young, Andreas and Mata were today.
Ole could have done much better there, taking off Lukaku whilst continuing to play like that made it all the more bizarre.Can't fault the team for their spirit though and it properly brang back those Fergie Time™ feelz; made for a cracking end to the game to come back from 2 nil down. Too much rotation-induced tinkering to the system cost us tonight but hopefully Ole learns from this. Disappointing - for sure, but teams will drop points and we are still to play both Arsenal and Chelsea so I still feel it's very much in our hands.
Finally, you really can't blame the manager for our crap Young, Andreas and Mata were today.
Have you seen our fixture list?
Do you want him to rest players vs City, Liverpool, Chelsea, PSG (twice) and Arsenal, or Burnley, Leicester, Fulham, Southampton and Palace? We play all those in the next month and a half, and even if these are professionals, he can't play the same 11 every game. The team today is good enough to beat Burnley at home, comfortable.
The fact that he was sub before, means he knows the importance of all the players in the squad, it doesn't have to be sympathy. People think that because he's so nice and humble in interviews, he can't be cynical as a manager. You're wrong.
Some of you STILL for some reason keep nagging about his time at Cardiff, and think that's all he's done, just stop it, it's getting annoying.
He won the league in Norway with a team who never did it before, he's done well in Euorpe with them aswell.
Check group A:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_UEFA_Europa_League_group_stage
They met Sevilla after the group stages, won one of the legs 1-0, lost the other 3-0.
Sevilla later won EL (as usual).
I'm not defending him because i'm Norwegian, i didn't like it when i first heard he was taking over as caretaker, but seriously, he's won 8 and drew 1, in 9 matches. He deserves more after that than the shit some on here give him after the first match they didn't win.
Comeback from 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go, usually feels like a win, except for today, it seems.
I agree with Sanchez and mata but If martial wasn't injured I'm sure he would have started. Anyways plenty of games coming up, actually looking forward to them.
Andreas was pretty bad surprisingly, not expecting him to start many now and leave in summer which was always going to happen regardless of tonight's match IMO.
After Rash's miss this game became one of those where we were never going to score but we kept at it which was fergie like.
9 games, still unbeaten. Ole Ole Ole Ole !
The manager should get the same amount of credit for allowing the player to be in a position where he can score a goal i.e. on the pitch.
And the very salient point (in amongst all the whinging about the lineup) is that the lineup was good enough to beat Burnley, as evidenced by the amount of chances we created (and pissed away) and by their absolutely lack of chances (aside from 2 stupid mistakes). The draw had nothing to do with rotation or playing Rashford on the left. It had to do with poor finishing from someone who would otherwise put away those chances on another day.
Naive tonight. He rotated too many players and tried to play Burnley at their own game. Should have stuck with pace and movement and these cannon fodder teams can't live with that.
Barcelona last 9 matches: 7-0-2
Liverpool last 9 matches: 7-0-2
mCity last 9 matches(ex. Burton): 6-0-3
Chelsea last 9 matches: 6-1-2
Juventus last 9 matches: 7-1-0
Real Madrid last 9 matches: 6-1-2
United last 9 matches: 8-1-0
Not all that bad eh?
Should have could have won today.. but it was just one of those games where finishing was not good enough and it affects the players.
I am sure that if Rashford put the first one then we would be looking at 3-0 and praise all over the place.
Also, it was a must to rotate some in this game:
Burnley 29.01, Leicester 03.02, Fulham 07.02, PSG 12.02, Chelsea 17.02
Thats 5 games in 2 1/2 weeks. It had to be a lot of rotation vs. Arsenal / Burnley imo.
If you play the same players all the time then you not only get injuries but also the squad players will not be fit and up to the task when stepping in.
Liverpool last 9 matches: 7-0-2
mCity last 9 matches(ex. Burton): 6-0-3
Chelsea last 9 matches: 6-1-2
Juventus last 9 matches: 7-1-0
Real Madrid last 9 matches: 6-1-2
United last 9 matches: 8-1-0
Not all that bad eh?
Should have could have won today.. but it was just one of those games where finishing was not good enough and it affects the players.
I am sure that if Rashford put the first one then we would be looking at 3-0 and praise all over the place.
Also, it was a must to rotate some in this game:
Burnley 29.01, Leicester 03.02, Fulham 07.02, PSG 12.02, Chelsea 17.02
Thats 5 games in 2 1/2 weeks. It had to be a lot of rotation vs. Arsenal / Burnley imo.
If you play the same players all the time then you not only get injuries but also the squad players will not be fit and up to the task when stepping in.
For all the changes and I think Lingard and Ander should have started, we still battered them and pin them in their own half in the 2nd.
I think we were too sleepy in the 1st but still had 2 good chances to take the lead.
I think we were too sleepy in the 1st but still had 2 good chances to take the lead.
Should have kept Lukaku on that’s my main complaint. We must have put 30 crosses into the box after he went off it made no sense.
Agreed. That fixture list is an absolute nightmare with our squad. Today was probably the best game to do it but things didn't go our way. Problem is that our midfield picks itself yet you can't ask Pogba, Herrera and Matic to play every single one of those games at peak performance, it just isn't on. Our squad has to step up. Will be interesting to see the line ups for our next two games.
This was strange when you think about it,we scored 2 when he came off. Can understand our players crossing since Burnley were camped in their box but after lukaku went off there was no one who was a serious threat from crosses. It looked like midgets vs giants.
He's been outstanding but lets not kid ourselves, more than anything a caretaker has been brought in so the owners don't have to spend money this window!
Resting players was the correct decision, especially in light of the chances we made since we should have easily won the game
Its interesting isn't it? We had no clue as to what our best 11 was until Ole showed us. Now we expect them to play every game.
There was a huge clamour on the CAF for giving everyone a chance, a 'fresh start.' Claims of mediocrity for Fred and Andreas were slammed. They haven't done well and Ole gets hammered for being naive and 'changing a winning formula.'
There was a huge clamour on the CAF for giving everyone a chance, a 'fresh start.' Claims of mediocrity for Fred and Andreas were slammed. They haven't done well and Ole gets hammered for being naive and 'changing a winning formula.'
I'm not certain they'd have spent much even with Jose still in charge.
Mourinho would be banging the door down for a CB, its one of the reasons he was sacked before the window opened.
The time to rest players was against Arsenal on Friday, today was the more important of the two games. I said it in the build up to the Arsenal game
No secret about that, but the door would have remained closed. Might be something to what you say.
I love Ole, but does anyone feel he panders to the fans abit too much with his comments? I’m not sure if its because I’m constantly seeing quotes from him on social media but how long can he keep saying “this is Manchester Utd” blah blah. It’ll be intresting to see how he responds to set back. I still feel we should wait to the end of season and make a decision then rather than rushing to one now. We can’t afford a 4th bad appointment.
Fergie spent 27 years blowing the fans and telling us all what we wanted to hear, even when the truth was otherwise. Both Ole and Fergie comtrast massively to Mourinho in this regard.
To be fair our last manager left him with Valencia and Young as fullbacks. Lukaku as a CF and Fred and Fellaini.. We need to rotate we are playing 6 games in the next 4 weeks.. We need to ship out 8 or 9 players and sign some really good ones instead.
Their own game? Surely you aren't talking about long balls and setting up to defend, or? I think we had too many crosses etc. But the reality is we were set up in a way that it was all up to our players to beat what Burnley put up in front of us. We had chances to kill the game off, but the players didn't all have it in them today. I certainly think we was supposed to play with more tempo, as we saw in a few instances, it just didn't happen enough due to our players. Ole knows that now, and it will surely effect some of the players later on.
Also we needed to rest players and not only that but we need all these players to play a part if we are to do anything serious this season.
And who is this CB that’s realistically available? January is incredibly difficult to buy in regardless of whether doors are getting banged or otherwise.
The likes of Skriniar, Koulibaly, Alderweireld, etc just won’t happen in January. Look at Bayern Münich for example - every man and his dog know they want Pavard and Lucas Hernández now (offering extra cash in the case of the former and willing to meet the release clause in the case of the latter) but it’s so difficult to get those deals done in January!