Someone who’s not bringing on Luke Shaw and a Lingard at 2 - 0 down would be a nice change for a start.
And having no strikers is on Ole.
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Someone who’s not bringing on Luke Shaw and a Lingard at 2 - 0 down would be a nice change for a start.
And having no strikers is on Ole.
I think I’d take Brent at this point, and I really dislike him.
That’s not what he said.
He meant previous positive results have shown how well some of the inexperienced lads have done, but today showed that they are not capable to do it every game.
He’s completely being hung out to dry. An absolute pisstake that we’ve not done anything yet this month with the state of the squad.
I said yesterday on here that Ole was here until the end of the season at least and longer if we get top 4.
But this defeat and the manner of it plus the mass exodus of fans well before it was over has an end of days feeling about it.
But if he is not sacked in the coming week then he is definitely here until the end of the season come what may.
But this defeat and the manner of it plus the mass exodus of fans well before it was over has an end of days feeling about it.
But if he is not sacked in the coming week then he is definitely here until the end of the season come what may.
That might be the tipping point for me. I had faith in Ole but offing Lukaku seemed like a mistake from day 1. Especially with no replacement. Ole touted that United we’re going to have the fittest team in the league and yet everyone has been hurt. I don’t understand a lot of the team selections. United look out of sorts and uninspired at times. The new “direction” is not looking like a good one.
Granted I would like to see the glazers and Woodward out before/with Ole but I’m not sure that’s realistic. If Poch is the manager they wanted all along, might be time to make that switch.
Granted I would like to see the glazers and Woodward out before/with Ole but I’m not sure that’s realistic. If Poch is the manager they wanted all along, might be time to make that switch.
With regard to the coaching post earlier, fully agree. One statistic I think sums up our manager and coaching staff's inability to cope with changing tactics and coaching methods. 45 percent of our goals this season have been conceded from dead ball situations either corners or free kicks delivered into the 18 yard box. Yet our manager and his coaching staff appear to have failed to recognise this problem and address it in training. How many points have we lost because of this, this is a problem which Ole and his coaching staff cannot excuse it is down to them and them only.
I assume this is Ole’s version of José saying 2nd with his squad was his best achievement?
The players have been punching above their weight but now we’re seeing their ceiling?
You're not running an AA meeting Ole and you're certainly not their counselor. These players don't need a pat on the back or 'help' to overcome their poor performances. Stop trying to mother them.
Lead them properly and coach them better if you want to see positive results.
If Ole was a dog we’d all say it’s cruel letting him continue and put him down, it’s time, I love the guy but seeing him Struggle in that interview hurt.
I know nothing much will change if he goes but it’s time for a change now .
I know nothing much will change if he goes but it’s time for a change now .
Surely there are managers out there who would love to manage us?
Yes it's toxic right now but it's still one of the biggest jobs in the world.
If your the manager who comes in and gets us back to where we should be imagine the sense of achievement in that.
Look at the plaudits klopp is getting it would be 10 times more than that for the manager who finally succeeded after all the crap that's happened since the great man retired.
He would have to have an iron will and bend the people at the top to his way of thinking that would be the most difficult part but surely someone out there is capable?
If you don't laugh you'll cry.
I think it is hard to say for sure. Especially given the failures of Jose, LVG, and Moyes. It isn't a straight forward answer. What we desperately need is an overhaul of the club structure. I don't think any of the modern-day managers will be willing to invest in such a project. I could be wrong though.
He done himself no favours telling everyone he was happy with the squad.
I said a long time ago that he needs to go.. I've given up on it. I've given up on a lot of things at this club.
Because Mourinho's complaining about it at every chance made such a big difference...?
I really hope so. Otherwise, we will just be stuck in a cycle of rotating managers and a big signing here and there. Klopp is unique compared to the rest of the managers. I think someone like him comes by once in a decade or so.
Look at him grinning
At least gets more people talking about the owners and puts more pressure on them. Might ultimately be nothing, but deflecting blame away from them after all this can't be a good thing and will just lead to the cycle being repeated. Get it ugly enough and something will crack eventually.
I don’t know how many times i have to post these articles before anyone actually can be bothered to read them.
OLE IN PUBLIC IS CLEARLY DIFFERENT TO THE OLE I PRIVATE.
Ole Brands His Players A Joke After Southampton Draw
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....draw_sto7442148/story-amp.shtml?client=safari
FEAR FACTOR Ashley Young: Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is no baby-faced assassin, he commands respect by ‘losing it’ like legendary Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/talk...jaer-manchester-united-sir-alex-ferguson/amp/
Look at him grinning
Oh do me a favour and get over it ffs
Managers won't come in with the situation with the board as is. They will want assurances and control that Woodward and the Glazers won't commit to. So you're left with a mainly sell (overpaid players) to buy budget, the academy, and expectations to turn it around asap with trophies. It's an impossible job, until they get properly backed, which just evidently isn't happening considering all the players we sold over the past year without replacing them, all the injuries that were forced because of that and yet still, no reinforcements.
Definitely time, he will take it as well. This isn't the hardest job in football any more. Pochettino can basically set his own terms and if I was him I would be talking directly with the Glazers instead of Woodward.
With abit of Roy Keane at the end..
Jesus fecking Christ, get him out of the club asap, this should be a top priority before he completely destroys this club.There’s a distinct lack of leadership on the pitch as well, no one grabs the game by the scruff of the neck for us anymore
Yes! Change for the sake of change, right after a bad result. That's genius decision making at the board level.
What’s he going to say? “I’ve been left with this shit squad cause my boss is incompetent”?
Who does that benefit?
Molde improved and won league without him.
How about a bit of perspective.
Lindelof, Mctominay, Pogba, and Rashford are out injured, which is not just a third of the first eleven, but a big part of the spine of team. We dominated the first half, and spurned guilt edge chances, from the two players that any of you would want the chances to fall to could you choose.
No we didn't score, and yes we are a team out of form and low on confidence, so if you don't take those few chances it will come back to hurt you. Clearly we are not creating, but lets have a look at this. We play with a #10, and are our midfield options for the creative role are Lingard, Pereira, Mata, & Pogba. No amount of coaching can fix two of those four, and while Mata has his uses at times he's over the hill. The only one who genuinely is good enough (and is first choice) has been injured, so yes we lack creativity. We looked at Eriksen and Dybala over summer, and Fernandes now so Ole is well aware.
All this falls back to same old argument of squad depth. Two ways to go about, buy first then sell, or sell first then buy. The squad was bloated as well as the wage bill, so yes, the priority was to get rid first. It's a choice. Trim the squad, and then build it back up with the right players.
It was always going to be a hard season, and guess what, nothing has changed on that front.
Lindelof, Mctominay, Pogba, and Rashford are out injured, which is not just a third of the first eleven, but a big part of the spine of team. We dominated the first half, and spurned guilt edge chances, from the two players that any of you would want the chances to fall to could you choose.
No we didn't score, and yes we are a team out of form and low on confidence, so if you don't take those few chances it will come back to hurt you. Clearly we are not creating, but lets have a look at this. We play with a #10, and are our midfield options for the creative role are Lingard, Pereira, Mata, & Pogba. No amount of coaching can fix two of those four, and while Mata has his uses at times he's over the hill. The only one who genuinely is good enough (and is first choice) has been injured, so yes we lack creativity. We looked at Eriksen and Dybala over summer, and Fernandes now so Ole is well aware.
All this falls back to same old argument of squad depth. Two ways to go about, buy first then sell, or sell first then buy. The squad was bloated as well as the wage bill, so yes, the priority was to get rid first. It's a choice. Trim the squad, and then build it back up with the right players.
It was always going to be a hard season, and guess what, nothing has changed on that front.
I am coming out with the same either we win or we loose. No one, and I mean no one can point out any tactical rabbit that would have won this game. It is all about ability and we need to invest! I can’t believe this is pointed towards Ollie. It is seven years in the making. When you have no options for Martial having a shit game. And when your only option is Pereira and Lindgard in the number 10. Feck me.. They should not be anywhere near the first team. James should be a squad player. And NO!!!!!!!! We should not throw Greenwood out on the deep end with Jesus like expectations. Why the feck isn’t people on here talking about players and their preformance? Matic was the fecking best player for UTD. What does that tell us? And Mata? ...
If you want to know the score, read “captive state” by Georg Monbiot. You’d think the Americans are stealing your living at Man Utd. But truth is.. Every fecking time you leave your house.. What is even worse. Every fecking player and manager painted this picture before the match. Where comes the danger and what to do. Didn’t happen, and it’s fecking shit! It’s shit!
There was nothing wrong with tactics tonight. But, o boy there was a lot going wrong. If this window closes without two signings..Listen to Stephen Hawson on YouTube after this loss. That is fecking spot on! Listening to Crouch and Ferdinand.. Spot on! Sack Ollie. Hire Poch. Hire Pep and hire Klopp. It won’t change a fecking thing, Phil Jones will never be anything else than Phil Jones, and he wasn’t even worst of the bunch. Smarten up feckers - and point your finger in the right direction! But what i do agree on. Ollie needs to paint them walls red!
Sorry, but 'losing it' from time to time is not being a leader. If you have to shout and scream to get your point across then you are doing it wrong.
A leader will establish a vision of what they wish to achieve and then outline that vision to their underlings clearly and concisely that they may follow it to the letter. A leader takes responsibility for their actions, they delegate, they take control of a situation and demand results rather than ask for them. They command respect, they inspire those around them, they reprimand when the situation calls for it.
Do you see any of that in Ole? I don't, I'm afraid.
I saw it in Fergie. I see it in Pep and Klopp, among others, but I don't see it in Ole and never will as it isn't in his nature. Ole is not a leader, he's a friend and probably a great one at that, but he is not a leader of men which is what our squad needs as much as anything right now.
FFS. Watch the fecking interview. Probably the best he has done. Hurt as hell. And muppets like this make a new narrative? And you are fecking supporting it!!??.. Who are the Glazier puppets? The Ole in, or the Ole out?
The ones who gave them leeway to appoint Ole to be permanent manager in the first place
Grow a brain!
"Entitled" is just a new way to shame those who dont think like you.
Why?
He was hired because he was cheap and it would appease the fans. Also he wouldn't cause any fuss when he doesnt get backed.
Fans who went along with the appointment are reaping what they sowed
Ole I admire you for taking on this once great club after Mourinho had turned it so toxic. You have given us the occaisonal great moment like PSG & City away which we will always appreciate.
Yes I realise you are missing McTominay, Pogba & Rashford badly but we still should be beating Burnley at home with this team.
You really needed to demand more from this board behind the scenes and got in better coaching than the Utd old boys club. Maybe if you had better around you then this wouldn't need to be the end of the road.
I think it's a real shame that in the end it will be that Toy Story puppet who pulls the trigger on you. I would much rather you walk away with your dignity intact.
If you have to be sacked then it should be done by a proper DOF not some banker who hasn't a clue on football matters.
Yes I realise you are missing McTominay, Pogba & Rashford badly but we still should be beating Burnley at home with this team.
You really needed to demand more from this board behind the scenes and got in better coaching than the Utd old boys club. Maybe if you had better around you then this wouldn't need to be the end of the road.
I think it's a real shame that in the end it will be that Toy Story puppet who pulls the trigger on you. I would much rather you walk away with your dignity intact.
If you have to be sacked then it should be done by a proper DOF not some banker who hasn't a clue on football matters.
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