You clearly didn't watch the game.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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You clearly didn't watch the game.
24 points from Liverpool. We are on the right path as Ole say.
Maybe you should be our manager, you obviously have it all sussed out.
Besides trying long distance shots what else did we created? Lots of possession but very little end product.
I think it's the other way around on this one. If the kid didn't pull that one goal out of nothing we would have lost, we were toothless.
It's funny because had Ole not decided to change the formation to a 4-2-4 around the 65 minute mark, we may not have grabbed the equalizer.
Makes you wonder if he brought Greenwood on earlier would we have won. That is my biggest complaint, just wish he would be quicker with his subs.
Well, you can't be worse than Ole
I wish I was as optimistic as you, mate! For me, I just can't see how we're going to break these teams that sit back down with our current tactics, and that's been a problem for a long time now.
Aside from the big teams where we've been expected to counter, there have been brief periods in games where we've looked really good at attacking like against Brighton and Norwich, but they've been very rare. I'd want to see us playing like that on a more regular basis before I start thinking we're on the right track there.
Hopefully we improve at breaking teams down when Pogba returns. We'll obviously do better because Pogba can create as well as anyone, but, even before his injury, we were struggling at this aspect of the game with him in the side so I don't think it's a guarantee either.
Yup. Nothing was working with Jese and should have been subbed at half time.
Hope Ole learns and realises Lingard shouldn't be anywhere near the first team. I don't know if it's because it's his personal issues or if he's just a bad player, but United can't suffer because of him. Greenwood is much more capable than Lingard atm.
I bet he will get the same points as Ole.
When did I say that ? But you are telling me a top coach doesn’t get the best out of players ? we have 2 wins out of 11 against the bottom 13 sides. If you doubled our points tally we be only top by a point.
Nobody expected us to challenge but 25 points in 17 games is awful. I don’t think a top manager would turn Lingard into Mane but they be doing better than Ole
Yes. I'm quite a staunch ole in supporter but I will call out when he makes or failed to make stupid subs. Lingard is decent when the game is open. He's very poor technically against team that camps and contributes nothing. Hopefully Pogba comes back soon enough. Martial should be playing at 10 with Greenwood ahead of him until Pogba returns.
I suggest you read my post again.
In my opinion Ole is succeding according to plan. But some fans of course wants success over night. Nothing new there. But that would propably mean another 10 years of changing managers and failing in stead of rebuilding over 3 years and then have the base for 10 years of titles and success. There is fewer and fewer losses, more wins and more stable performances. When the squad is strengthened things will go better, and youth players will have the experience that will boost their overall performance. One just have to realize where the club was and where it is going, and that TTT (things take time). Today should have been a win anyways, since Evertons goal clearly should have been ruled out due to the foul on DeGea.
You have no sense of humor
It was infuriatingly predictable that that would happen today but still of the opinion that our problems will change with a couple of creative players.
We’ve got a team full of direct runners. Of course a coach always has to take part of the blame but at the end of the day you need a certain type of player to break teams down, and we don’t really have it, especially without Pogba.
We’ve got a team full of direct runners. Of course a coach always has to take part of the blame but at the end of the day you need a certain type of player to break teams down, and we don’t really have it, especially without Pogba.
That is why you need to coach the team into doing different things. Runs into the box with crosses could work. Quick combinations and lots of movement too.
We should be able to do these things better. We also sold players like Fellaini and Lukaku who could do well against these types of teams.
errr we did score do how'd you work that out?
Sometimes implies that this doesn’t happen frequently and it’s been happening all season long as well as the end of last season. The sometimes is the wins against Spurs and City.
Talking about the last minutes pal
It's clear that against these teams, we don't quite have the quality to make something happen on a regular basis. You need far more than one player that is going to score a goal from nothing(like Greenwood did), to regularly beat these teams.
No surprises. He’s missing Pogba. You know - someone with the footballing ability and creativity that doesn’t need to rely on space for kick and run dribbling
Yeah, Lingard was appalling today. Very disappointing after his recent good performances. Number 10 is a problem position for us, no doubt, especially if Ole plans to stick with the 4231 for the remainder of the season, and he most likely will. It's even more of a problem when you consider the options available for that role consist of Lingard, Periera, and Mata. Pogba can't return from injury soon enough.
Ole could have brought Greenwood on sooner, but you get the feeling he is protecting him as best he can. But you can't block a freight train, and young Daddy is crying out for an extended run in the team. He's bound to get it before the season ends.
"No player is bigger than the club except the ex-player whose success is more important than the success of the club!"
Well, the problem is that every time we dominate the game in terms of possession, we fail to win.
You can't say "that's football sometimes" if it happens every bloody time.
I do like the idea of Pogba at the axis of a midfield three with Mctominay and a resurgent Fred backing him up,
He might be looking to the Carabao Cup game for Greenwood.
Out of Perreira and Lingard who has contributed more with respect to goals and assists over the past year? Lingard is the worst of a bad bunch. Unless your definition of best means running alot.
We're doing more than enough to win the games in terms of possession and controlling the game, comfortably, but we lack that creative spark in the center of the pitch. Pogba should, hopefully, provide that when he returns from injury.
You have to take into account that even with our best first 11 on the pitch (which we have been unable to produce since the second game of the season) we're barely an above average side. We're very much a work in progress.
Every time we do "more than enough to win the games" we fail to win the game. I mean there has to be something in there, doesn't it?
People are throwing phrases like "young and inconsistent team" around constantly, but I would argue that we are very consistently good against good teams and very consistently poor against the poor sides. That's not a sign of a good team. That's the sign of a mid-table team with an ability to raise its game and counter-attack against teams that pressure us. We're basically a one-trick pony, and that one trick is unfortunately only working against the minority of the sides in the league.
We have also dropped points from being in the lead far too much. We have also never won any games coming from behind. That shows some big problems for us.
I also forgot to mention how consistent we are in making uncharacteristic defensive errors to lose us games, and how we are consistently unable to handle ten minutes of pressure without conceding against the smaller sides.
I think that there now has to be a question - and it is obviously at least partly down to the quality of players available to him at present - as to whether we're struggling to break down teams who don't go at us because we need better and more creative players or whether, at least partly, because motivation is a problem against perceived weaker sides. The intensity doesn't look at the same level and that's the responsibility of the staff.
Solskjaer doesn't know how to coach a team to break down opposition. We are only as good as the spaces we have available which is why there's no consistency. To the people saying we have turnt a corner it's clear we haven't but it's also clear that this team will fight for Solskjaer which is worthy of merit in many cases.
The end of the season will determine if Ole is a success or not if he gets too four by all accounts give him more time, if we fail to do so then sack him.
The end of the season will determine if Ole is a success or not if he gets too four by all accounts give him more time, if we fail to do so then sack him.
Watford Newcastle and Burnley next 3 games. This should be 9 points but we will probably end up with 4. We had a great chance today to show we had moved on, but its as others have said, if plan a doesnt work, we havent a plan b. Whether this is a player or manager or both issue, it needs resolving asap.
We have no clue how to attack when the onus is on us to attack.
We struggle creating clear chances.
We move the ball too slow. Patterns of play are often null.
I'll praise Ole for our set-up vs Tottenham and City.
However, he deserves criticism for our inability to attack and go at weaker teams. He's had plenty of time. I just don't buy the excuse of more quality is needed. We had enough quality to beat City and Spurs. We don't need more quality to beat Everton.
We struggle creating clear chances.
We move the ball too slow. Patterns of play are often null.
I'll praise Ole for our set-up vs Tottenham and City.
However, he deserves criticism for our inability to attack and go at weaker teams. He's had plenty of time. I just don't buy the excuse of more quality is needed. We had enough quality to beat City and Spurs. We don't need more quality to beat Everton.
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