Nail on the head. So much of people being alright with certain people leaving is we all wrongly presumed they'd be replaced, because surely no one would be dumb enough to leave us with such a thin squad. Wrong we were.
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Nail on the head. So much of people being alright with certain people leaving is we all wrongly presumed they'd be replaced, because surely no one would be dumb enough to leave us with such a thin squad. Wrong we were.
Maguire was an essential signing though.
I wish he did. I said as much as soon as the transfer window closed.
But is that Ole or Woodwards fault?
We needed maguire and he'll be a great signing for us (and is already one of our most important players). There was no 1 signing fix. We needed 4-5 starters minimum, we signed 2 and James who was meant to be a squad player to start with. We still need another 3 at least. Not signing a midfielder doesn't mean that signing defenders was the wrong choice, because they were both very good signings and absolutely necessary.
This should never be a position we accept, not for any reason. I can’t fathom why we are doing? Did anybody really think it would get this bad?! It never should have.
If we lose to Norwich we are on relegation points. He has to go if that happens.
(Table subject to change due to Newcastle result)
If the score with Newcastle stays like this and we lose today we’re outside the relegation zone on GD.
Nowhere near acceptable.
Nowhere near acceptable.
Get in there! We're staying up!
Anything is acceptable with Ole in charge. Even if we are relegated you can be sure there would still be people trying to prove it's an expected part of a rebuilding job Ole is doing.
Herrera's decision to leave was because of Woodward's inept planning.
Herrera's so called demands were vastly exaggerated by the club to save face. Herrera wanted to stay all along. We actually let his contract run down, then at the last second, informed him by post we were renewing his deal for a further year, ignoring the gentlemen's agreement in place which needed his approval, then offered him a minimal contract to renew, whilst in the meantime, were all too happy to shower Young, Jones & Smalling with new contracts.
Young is on £120k, Matic is on £120k, Mata is on £160k, Shaw is on £195k, Lukaku was on £200k, Martial & Rashford both on £250k.
Herrera had been on approx £70-£80k a week for 5 years. He was apparently after £150k a week. Do you think that was unreasonable for a valuable leader in the dressing room?
Yet here we are, sitting in 15th... but they know what they're doing apparently.
Full article at link. I just posted some paragraphs.
Depends who you believe, some places were saying Herrera was after over 200,000 a week I thought.
Not like we couldn’t have afforded both either, we’re not exactly a poor club.
Yeah but if we win we jump up to 7th, table is tight.
Including his time at Cardiff in the PL and championship Ole's entire tenure in England has been taking teams to relegation positions
This should never be a position we accept, not for any reason. I can’t fathom why we are doing? Did anybody really think it would get this bad?! It never should have.
If we lose to Norwich we are on relegation points. He has to go if that happens.
(Table subject to change due to Newcastle result)
. I actually think he's so bad he would get any non top 6 squad relegated.I can't believe there's a near 50/50 split on if he should be sacked or not, this is reminding me of the Wenger in Wenger out situation and he was making top 4 most of the time. Ole has to go he hasn't showed anything that gives him time at this club, he can talk the talk but can't back it up. Give him time they say but to do what? If after say 2 years he's getting sacked anyway as I can't see us ever improving with him so might as well leave now.
Don't you think getting relegated might just be the kick up the ass the club sorely (intended pun) needs?
It'd be funny too.
He’s a massive rookie & the way we play is small time
Would be nice to see us winning more often. Maybe we'd score more than a goal a game? Maybe someone might score a hattrick?!
Unfortunately I think you could be right though.
I think relegation would be the end of Woodward. He would have overseen that incredible demise. His position would be untenable.
That was my first thought too.
The weirdest thing is, I can actually picture us going down. I never thought that would be possible, but they're that terrible.
Christ no, I’ve followed Championship and League One clubs my entire life, the Championship is a brutal place and with poor planning upon relegation you can find yourself being stuck there a very long time.
Slow down, let's not rock the boat too much!
What are you on about? it takes at least 10 years to start a rebuilding process. Five years is just everyone getting to know each other.
When was our last league hat trick? Must be ages now.
RvP Vs Southampton.
Think we'll win tonight, as they're pretty crap defensively. Doubt it'll mean anything in the long run though.
Bloody hell
surely we’re owed one sooner or later.Needs a win today I think. If we lose this then I think he's bang in trouble.
Exactly. You cannot even begin to implement your tactics unless you buy 25 players.
*Aston Villa, the match that declared us winners of the league in Fergie last season.
Did he get a hat trick in that one? Always thought it was two including that great volley.
The recurring theme to this thread seems to be as follows:
Those wanting OGS out present facts and evidence, his win record, his transfers, and his game management.
Those wanting OGS in present abstract notions, theories, and predictions. These are used as predication to give him time to complete this theoretical plan.
Those wanting OGS out use evidence as to why. Those wanting him in use a leap of faith.
Those wanting OGS out present facts and evidence, his win record, his transfers, and his game management.
Those wanting OGS in present abstract notions, theories, and predictions. These are used as predication to give him time to complete this theoretical plan.
Those wanting OGS out use evidence as to why. Those wanting him in use a leap of faith.
It's the Brexit thread all over again.
Yeah he did. Great old days.
Yep. I think you've given me inspiration for the answer to both problems though.
The government stay in the EU and nationalise Manchester United. They change our strip to the Union Jack and St Georges cross. (Though personally I'd prefer the reverse design on the gold sovereigns) and declare the club a manifestation of global Britain. They buy every one of the worlds best 30 players and we win everything every year to screw over the rest of Europe, and 90% of the population of the UK.
Even if we win today, thirteen points out of 30 is not impressive.
The fact people might count beating fecking Norwich as some sort of victory or step in the right direction says it all. A game like this should be a forgone conclusion, not a monumental battle.
Some just seem to be unaware of the hole we are in. Yes, we might not be ready to challenge for the title, but we should not we down the relegation end of the table. I just wish somebody involved with the club would actually explain to me what this progress is that they are seeing. It just seems an empty comment without an explanation.
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