The club will lose serious value by the time they decide to do so.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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He should be ashamed of what he has done, If I was in his shoes, I would go to Ed Woodward and ask him for the rest of the year's payments instead of letting Ed wait till its mathematically not possible to qualify to the CL so Ed wont have to pay the rest of the contract. Be Ole will not do it, he cares about himself and does not give a shit about the fans.
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I will always love Ole. Any true fan of our great club will. But he has to step down. Maybe not now but certainly come mid/late November. It’s not just the players, it’s clear the fundamentals and ‘way of play’ that Ole so stubbornly sticks to just simply doesn’t work.
I’d like our new successor brought in around this time (mid/late Nov). Give him some quality time to dissect this squad and get shut of the many frauds who are stealing a living.
Come January I’d invest heavy in 2-3 players also promoting the youth players more.(E.g Mata sold with Gomes taking his minutes)
I’d prefer 2-3 quality signings now with another 3-4 in the summer. That way we are not looking at the unrealistic/improbable 8in 8out transfer window in July. This doesn’t need to be superstars at stupid prices; but instead players with that touch of quality and courage to either dictate the play in midfield or create a chance in attack.
Julian Naglesmann, Brandon Rodgers, Erik ten Hag and Mauricio Pochettino are my top four managers I’d personallh like us to target.
I’d like our new successor brought in around this time (mid/late Nov). Give him some quality time to dissect this squad and get shut of the many frauds who are stealing a living.
Come January I’d invest heavy in 2-3 players also promoting the youth players more.(E.g Mata sold with Gomes taking his minutes)
I’d prefer 2-3 quality signings now with another 3-4 in the summer. That way we are not looking at the unrealistic/improbable 8in 8out transfer window in July. This doesn’t need to be superstars at stupid prices; but instead players with that touch of quality and courage to either dictate the play in midfield or create a chance in attack.
Julian Naglesmann, Brandon Rodgers, Erik ten Hag and Mauricio Pochettino are my top four managers I’d personallh like us to target.
I'm beginning to wonder if Ole is a convenient sacrificial lamb.
The rebuild was needed but would that have whetted the appetite of any Class A managers in world football? Risking their reputation at a rudder-less club is may be a risk too far for most top class managers
The rebuild was needed but would that have whetted the appetite of any Class A managers in world football? Risking their reputation at a rudder-less club is may be a risk too far for most top class managers
First step towards recovery would be acceptance that things are bad , unfortunately everyone at the club from top to bottom has their eyes closed and just watching Manchester United go from one low to the next . The belief that Manchester United are too big to fail needs to be removed from all this or else even worse times are coming
Other teams also have injuries and suspensions. Newcastle also had missing players and suspended players today.
Under different manager we should be 100% winning this. Our squad(not first 11 as this was on Ole) was well good enough to beat a terrible Newcastle side. This is inexcusable and in De Gea's words - unacceptable.
2 points from relegation, ffs, have some self respect and resign.
Somebody needs to ask Gary Neville if this was happening at Salford what would he do? He’s so full of fecking shit it is unreal. The whole club and everyone who used to play for us are stuck in the past and that’s what has caused this mess.
I think the game against Norwich will finally put us in relegation zone.
No worries, at all mate, I totally understand.
It's so frustrating. Didn't mean any disrespect to you as a poster.
I don't even look at our next fixture anymore. Our next opponents are irrelevant from game to game as it's not the opponent we are failing to beat.
We will struggle to beat ANY time at the moment and that is the worry.
The club is losing value very quickly.
How can someone make a side look so bad
Its insanity, literally. Watching games with no hope at all expecting a different result. Football used to be a joy, not anymore. I dread it now.
He needs to shut his stupid mouth up.
Hopefully he's gone by the morning
He’ll be gone by a morning, just don’t think it’ll be tomorrow.
We’re stuck with him.
He'll be gone after Liverpool game I guess. We'll be just above relegation zone after this and there will be no other option to soften the blow than sacking.
Already happening.
Yeah, just putting it up in perspective. If we fail to beat either Norwich or Pool it would be our worst start to a campaign since 86/87 where we ended up in relegation zone before Fergie took over, when we had 8 points in 10 games.
Before that I think the worst start we had in 10 games was the year before we got relegated.
Clearly out of his depth, seems to have no control over anything, time to move on.
Side questions:
Would we have won today if we had Bruce and Newcastle had Ole?
Would Bruce be a better manager for us than Ole?
I would say no. Of course I’m not saying anyone thinks we should hire Bruce but if it’s not about the players then it’s about the managers - both of them.
Ole should probably have got more points than he has over the last 20 games. But on a game by game basis it is not clear that another manager could have done better given the quality of the players we have on the pitch.
Many overrate our players - when you consider how rarely any of them have actually played well (and that’s over a very long period for most of them) and yet people still assume Poch (or another) would get them playing much better - this seems doubtful.
I suppose our players, even today, were better than Newcastle’s. So some credit to Bruce? If we had a different manager - say Bruce - he might get us a few more points than Ole by adopting strategies that embrace the weaknesses of our players. Would that be preferable? Maybe. But would that approach be compatible with the sort of long term development that we need?
Any manager taking on our players and setting them up as if they are any good will suffer the same disappointments we are getting now.
If he wants to keep the love of the fans, come tomorrow morning and hand in your resignation. This if he has any self respect left in him.
Yeah, just putting it up in perspective. If we fail to beat either Norwich or Pool it would be our worst start to a campaign since 86/87 where we ended up in relegation zone before Fergie took over, when we had 8 points in 10 games.
Before that I think the worst start we had in 10 games was the year before we got relegated.
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a post which mentioned that point for point we already have a worse start than the year we got relegated. 2 points given per win at that time.
That's not his job. That's Ed 's job to sack . It would be a career suicide if he hands over resignation.
Look we all went into the season with low expectations, but this team is performing so much lower than the lowest of expectations that it needs to be addressed.
We couldn't have a worst and best next game if we tried in a way. We won't be expected to get anything, but if we can't get up for a game against Liverpool, they all deserve binning.
We couldn't have a worst and best next game if we tried in a way. We won't be expected to get anything, but if we can't get up for a game against Liverpool, they all deserve binning.
Yes, we were better in that season, but we made worse start the year before under Frank O' Farrell -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972–73_Manchester_United_F.C._season
It has been coming.
What career? he is a novice manager and should not coach outside of Norway!
Ole isn't a very good manager.
That much is clear. His hear is in the right place and he loves he bones of Man United but he isn't good enough and who'd have thought it? A man who whose only success was at Molde isn't good enough to manage Manchester United.
Still I blame myself and I blame us. We all got excited because he had a massive bounce because he wasn't Jose Mourinho and we all thought he we'd somehow stumbled on the right but we haven't. There is more chance of me walking on the moon than Solskjaer taking this team back to any sort of glory and sooner we accept that the better.
It's not Ole's fault. It's not his fault that he was promoted to a job that we can't do and he deserves to walk out his head held high but sooner he walks out the better.
That much is clear. His hear is in the right place and he loves he bones of Man United but he isn't good enough and who'd have thought it? A man who whose only success was at Molde isn't good enough to manage Manchester United.
Still I blame myself and I blame us. We all got excited because he had a massive bounce because he wasn't Jose Mourinho and we all thought he we'd somehow stumbled on the right but we haven't. There is more chance of me walking on the moon than Solskjaer taking this team back to any sort of glory and sooner we accept that the better.
It's not Ole's fault. It's not his fault that he was promoted to a job that we can't do and he deserves to walk out his head held high but sooner he walks out the better.
Cheers.
I really don't understand why some people are excusing Ole by saying that the squad is poor? Of course it's poor but he made it poor by not buying players who are better than what we have.
Does Ole think Messi and Ronaldo are going to come to United to play for him?
I really don't understand his mentality. Any player who is better than what he has would have been better but again if he is a terrible coach which he is proving now, it doesn't matter.
Fat Sam would have this same team beating teams which we have not beaten under Ole.
Please go and save your reputation.
Does Ole think Messi and Ronaldo are going to come to United to play for him?
I really don't understand his mentality. Any player who is better than what he has would have been better but again if he is a terrible coach which he is proving now, it doesn't matter.
Fat Sam would have this same team beating teams which we have not beaten under Ole.
Please go and save your reputation.
He wouldn't get job at Norway if he resigns himself
If that job involved being humiliated and proven as clueless in front of millions of viewers worldwide every week, I'd resign regardless of the wage.
The fact that we all hate Ole right now should be enough for him to want to walk away. If he has any shame.
He's already found out. He will not get a high profile job again - that's for sure.
Why not get several millions as a golden parachute?
He's not an idiot.
Have you seen him manage lately?
Good luck Ole. If you back him . Fool on you. He’s crap
. Fool on you. He’s crap Yup. Absolutely clueless and tactically inept but not an idiot.
It was such a freak bounce, and let’s be honest it lasted way longer than usual. It seemed like it was for real, but the PSG win just blew everything we had.
I can’t believe how badly it’s changed since then, it really doesn’t make sense and I doubt he’s personally doing much different.
The issue is we’ve made no progress from that point and only seem to be going backwards. I can’t actually tell what he wants us to do either?. Possession, counter, cross? Work the ball into the box?.
he seems to want to do a bit of everything but he’s no clear identity. No patterns of play worked on, clearly no set piece work.
I desperately want his luck to change but I just can’t see us coming back now.
I’m genuinely shocked that we are actually in relegation form - not just saying that. If this continues we will be fighting for the bottom spots
I get that he and Woodward have some sort of plan - but that’s surely out the window if we can’t even get the top half of the table? Madness.- Status