Wasting your time, you can make as many posts as you want, reply will be same thing and next day he will come up with how "Ole In fans" didn't come up with any points.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Wasting your time, you can make as many posts as you want, reply will be same thing and next day he will come up with how "Ole In fans" didn't come up with any points.
As I’ve already told you it’s not my job to scour the world for managerial talent- there would be countless more qualified than Ole
If he serves up the defensive sit back football with no style of play Ole has then yes. Big clubs do change managers if they aren’t performing well
'everything'? You mean 2 things. The first being you telling me to 'have a day off' in a thread where you have over double the amount of posts that I do. The second being somebody genuinely attempting to justify OGS's appointment with the following: "we played very good football for about 6 games".
Sorry, but both of those things are funny.
Yes hilarious- hope you’ll still be back slapping each other at how funny you all are when we’re languishing next season no where near the top when anyone could see it coming (Ala Moyes)
I don't get it why you are hell bent in wanting everyone to agree with you. You have termed people here ole fan boys and making false statements liek people want ole to stay for years when no one has said such thing. All some are saying how is it even fair on Ole to be sacked just 5 months into his job. No club does that. Our problems run beyond the manager. We don't have a great squad, we are run by clueless people liek Woodward. What makes you think they will take the right decision going forward? WHat makes you think a new manager will make these lot look world class. Jeez I am starting to sound repetitive now. Anyways I am done with this discussion now.
.You still can't name one then. Just complain about the one we have over and over again.
Poch perhaps? No chance of getting him but besides, he lost around 20 games last season with a better team than us.
Zidane? Gone back to a Ronaldoless Madrid and doing average at best.
You seem an expert on our manager so must have a name in mind?
Alegri.
Mourinho 2.0
If United were serious about sorting their mess out, they'd be pulling trees and heavens long before Ole got the job permanently to get Pochettino in. The work he has done at Spurs is remarkable, they finished 3rd and above us once again which has been a regular occurrence under him. Plus reached the CL Final. Losing 20 games is not the stick to beat him with given he got zero money to spend and reached the objectives laid down by the board.
Also, there are number of managers in this league and others who are far more qualified than Ole. Even someone like Pellegrini at West Ham has far more pedigree as a manager at top level. This myth that Ole is the best we can do has to stop, once again fans are left to rationalize an inexplicable decision made the board. If name of Ole as a permanent manager was mentioned at the time when majority of fanbase was done with Jose (Sevilla game), they would've been laughed at or told to feck off, and rightly so. We have nothing but blind faith and hope he gets it right, 5 months of football he has served up during his time doesn't fill me (and plenty of others) with any optimism. He went on a great run but then also followed it up with our worst run of form in 60 years, yes 60 years. It only came to an end because season reached its conclusion, with United getting 1 point and scoring 1 goal vs a relegated Huddersfield and Cardiff side.
I'd love nothing more to be proven wrong and be quoted and laughed at in few months time, because it would mean United is doing well.
I thought his name was Alegri.
Exactly this & everything here is the truth that many find hard to accept
He is maybe not the best option, but let's give him a chance now. With the right management he can turn us around. Need some more top quality in though.
What makes you think the board didn't? Because The Mail and Sun didnt report any such story or do you have any knowledge on the inner workings of the board?
Well, you have already been wrong once calling for him to be given the job!.
Well done on quoting something out of context, you should be working for Sun!
That post was made on February 25, 2019. 2 months into his tenure, also if you read the actual post we were dispatching mid-table fodder with ease at the time. I was happy with the fact we were not making trash in PL look like hard work, this changed in the last 3 months. 2 sole victories at home in those months came vs Watford and West Ham where we were outplayed. Less said about our horror form overall, the better.
Since, you're so good at digging up the posts. Also dig up the post where I said that Ole should only be given the job 'at the end of season'. That would allow for a better assessment. While 2 months into his tenure showed cause for optimism, that alone cannot be looked in isolation. Looking at the 5 months overall, there's little which I've seen he's the right man. A manager has to arrest a slump of form and correct the course, Ole wasn't able to do that. It resulted in our worst form for 60 years, this outweighs initial honeymoon period by some margin.
I've been critical of board appointing him mid-way through the season all along. Obviously you didn't quote that, because it doesn't fit with your narrative.
Poch, the one answer to all of our problems. He actually came 4th not 3rd, 1 point ahead of a great Arsenal side and only 5 points ahead of arguably our worst of the last 30 years. The champions league run was basically him getting 2 'PSG' style fortunate results rather than Ole's one. Money spent last summer is irrelevant, most here would agree he's got a better team to work with than us.
We know all about 'more qualified managers' we've just sacked two of the most qualified of all time, it guarantees nothing.
I don't think anyone is saying they think Ole is definitely the best we can get but given what we've tried previously no one can make a convincing argument that sacking him and getting Pellegrini? in will be better either. I said before Mourinho was sacked i didn't think anyone would do any better with this squad, if anything Solskjaer has proved me wrong. I'm willing to give him a chance to improve the squad like it requires before writing him off.
Tbf a majority of managers are better qualified to manage United over Solskjear, that's just the reality when his record is poor every where except in Norway, you have a manager like Laurent Blanc who is far better qualified and can also point to experiencing as a player what it's like to be part of this club.
When you look at how poorly Giggs is doing as a manager and to think the club was actually serious about grooming him to be the next United manager after Van Gaal and fans backing it believing he will be our Guardiola, it shows how silly the romantic idea that this club and the fans have in mind of thinking"one of our own" will come good for us as a manager of this club just because they "get it".
Ole’s taking a huge gamble on his future with these uninspiring potential signings, this could end in disaster. I really hope it’s nothing more than paper talk.
There was a legendary British Economist called John Maynard Keynes who said this famous quote: “When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?”
I am not quoting out of context, You had said you were excited about United again and if it were upto you, he will get the job for that alone. You were fine as long as we were winning and back to moaning and calling him to be sacked once results went down south.
You felt he was doing well and then you changed your mind.And there is nothing wrong with that. Just don't pretend that you wouldn't have done the same as the board at that time and say that they should have researched better and all other BS.
I know, we've just sacked the most qualified we could have possibly got.
Just look at my previous reply. I don't mind people changing their opinions. I just think its too hypocritical for people to claim that " we should have waited", " we should have researched", When they them self advocated appointing him at sometime in the season.
Come on, are you really blaming fans for getting carried away?!
Who is there? The answer is we simply do not know, because we didn’t do what we said and wait until the end of season. A club the size of Man Utd should be holding a stern competition for the next manager, not simply ‘coronating’ the first name that comes to mind. That’s what serious business do, make it known that a job is available, invite applications and interview the candidates. We’ve handed the job to the last 4 managers without listening to any other interested parties views. Ole may have come through that process as the best available at the time, and fair play to him if he did, but at least we would have had a proper selection process.
The ‘Transfer Forum’ is full of opinions such as ‘not good enough for Utd’. The equal should apply to the recruitment of managers, where we can at least hold an objective recruitment process, whereas player transfers are more subjective.
I’ve nothing against Ole and hope he does really well, as it’s stupidity to even contemplate a change at this time.
What makes you think that it didn't happen? Do you have inside info on the boards decision?
Maybe the board should do an apprentice style show every time we need a manager and ask the fans to vote on it, that way we know for sure that the board did due dilligence!
Do you genuinely believe it did?!
Nope, I am not, I am just calling out the hypocrisy.
I have no clue how the board works nor do I claim to know how the selection process was carried out.
Agreed and that is why I said Ole is least of our concerns right now. The board need to take responsibility now. The moment Jose was sacked Woodward and other should have drastic measures to change the club's structure. Even the greatest of managers, not named Sir alex, will struggle to work in such a mess.
People think replace Ole and everything will be fine. Things doesn't work like that, if that was the case we would have already been successful considering we have sacked 3 managers in last 5 years. The moot point is it is too early to call Ole a failure and call for his head. Let us see how he he makes use of the transfer market and how he incorporates his ideas in pre season and then maybe in November/December we can come to a conclusion.
Jesus. You really think we did all that? That sort of process only happens at the end of the season. No manager, currently in a job, is going to apply mid-season. That was our stated aim - and we failed.
It will only be fair to judge Ole after he gets the players he wants, a pre-season and a full season.
Again, I don't know how it works. You are the one who is seeming to claim that there is some indeed like portal that managers apply to and get interviewed for after the season. That's why I am curious to know if you are ITK.
Mate, logical arguments don't work here, because you can't you 'you never know'.
Solskjear is the least qualified manager in the EPL and has fluked is way into a job at this basket case of a club, the good thing about football is you can't fluke a career for yourself many good managers would likely fail here, a dead average one like Solskjear will certainly, fail.
Tbf, any manager we had coming in as interim after the Jose Mourinho 3rd season meltdown would have our overall form better!
Let's take Guus Hiddink's 2nd spell as Chelsea manager after the Jose meltdown!
After the home draw against Stoke City, Hiddink set a new record for the longest unbeaten streak as a new manager in the Premier League with 12 games unbeaten, previously a record held by Frank Clark with Nottingham Forest in the 1993–94 season.[66]
Chelsea ended the season in tenth place in the Premier League, climbing six positions from 16th upon Hiddink's arrival.
Then they appointed Antonio Conte! Why wasn't Hiddink given the permanent job?
Will be a dead man walking if the team doesn’t hit the ground running in August.
Yup
If it’s not looking good come December I think he gets the boot, we can’t miss CL football for 2 years in a row.
I think the 3 months he started with the intensity and attack is what he wants and it is a good sign, as is the signing of James, it could not last with the condition of the players but he can correct that with pre-season, (they are going to be grilled). If you can produce that type of form over a sustained period with the obvious lack of quality in the squad it is another good sign, those not up for it can feck off.
I think you’d know if there was a queue of candidates lining up to be interviewed. Even our journos wouldn’t miss that.
But what if we are still in the Europa league? Dopey Ed will probably wait until all realistic options of achieving champions league are over before making his next failed managerial appointment.
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