I feel sorry for him in the sense that he's getting sacked from the club he loves and he didnt win anything, which probably hurts him more than any of us, but at the same time he had a dream job fall square into his lap and he can retire now and live like a king the rest of his life
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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I feel sorry for him in the sense that he's getting sacked from the club he loves and he didnt win anything, which probably hurts him more than any of us, but at the same time he had a dream job fall square into his lap and he can retire now and live like a king the rest of his life
At this point its clear Ole is a mercenary, he doesn't care about the club. He only cares about money.
It’s an absolute farce that we’re letting this continue but not surprising at all.
I never went hiding.
Might be wrong here but think you are mild compared to some, i am talking here Ronaldo/Messi level, they were his mega fans way before he even became a United manager.
Cut the BS, please. It's perfectly fathomable that he believes within himself that he can turn it around for the club. Even if that's wrong, it doesn't make him a mercenary.
It's fine to be Ole out but cut the hyperbole and character assassination.
Words fail me. I just don't know what to say anymore about this club.
Most managers are, he actus like he cars about the club. He wouldnt not be here after these defeats if he actually cared.
If he cared about the club he would show a bit of dignity and resign.
During my lifetime, this is the darkest day at this club. Smashed 5-0 at OT by Liverpool and this! Just please feck off!
No one in their right mind leaves 20 million on the table. You're among the best posters, but I think this is an unreasonable expectation.
We are done as a club. Might as well pack it in if we're keeping Ole.
Mercenary? Would you voluntarily quit your job without collecting the release fee from your employer?
That's your opinion. But in his view he firmly believes in the foundations they've built and wants to see it through to success.
You can say Ole out, you can say he's a bad manager, whatever. But don't for a second insinuate he doesn't care for the club. Well you can say it, but it's complete and utter tripe.
This. He's not the type to quit. He'll fight until the end.
This. I like where I work for example, it has some great people. But you can be damn sure if you give me the option of walking for nothing or sitting around and getting a redundancy package. I'm going to do the latter, and so would pretty much anyone with a rational brain on the planet.
He didn't put a gun to the clubs head and force them, they've given him the contract, point the blame there.
Is the payoff too much right now for Glazer?
We could miss more if we don't get top four, we still have a good chance but there's a lot of damage, player stats are on the floor for tackles etc.
We could miss more if we don't get top four, we still have a good chance but there's a lot of damage, player stats are on the floor for tackles etc.
Rubbish. Ole can care for the club and can love a payoff even more. Not only that, he probably cares for the manager seat more than he cares for the good of the club. It's not rocket science.
As plausible as that might be, it's not accurate. So feck off with the conspiracies.
We won't find another manager easily that cares for the club as much as Ole. He's come up very short as manager but to suggest he's a mercenary is silly.
What conspiracies? He's an employee of a business, of course he's going to think about it if he feels his performance is going to lead him out the door. If he didn't, he sure as heck shouldn't be managing a team. It's life changing money for him, he didn't play in the era of everyone getting £100k+ a week.
Not fair on Ole. If he leaves the job then most probably it will never happen again for him. So I don’t blame him for believing he can turn it around
This lazy assumption that he weights the monetary pay-out higher than the interest of the club. That's just mental gymnastics. What is far more accurate and likely is that he's not resigning because he knows he had the team in good momentum before season's start, has gone through turbulent periods before and thinks he can navigate this one too for us to come out stronger.
Obviously he's wrong, but to suggest that the latter isn't his thought process whatsoever is bizarre. People on the caf are so emotional, lazily just name calling club legends as mercenaries because they're angry and confused our board cant do their job and end the suffering themselves.
The man survives anything. Have never seen a luckier guy on the face of planet earth. We will end up winning Spurs and City and he will get a new contract !!
I really doubt it is about money. Ole is an ex professional footballer who is not used to quitting. We all see that he is not the answer but he probably still thinks that he can be a success here despite the odds. It is just a nature and mentality of top-flight sportsmen.
Both of the bolded parts should be established facts at this point. He's literally winged it with good vibes and counterattacking football.
That pitiful attempt at pressing was as embarrassing as the result. It's the arrogance for me - that he thought we could implement that against Liverpool clearly without having worked on it.
Saying "we're going to press today" without any idea of how to do it, is a bit like saying "we're going to compete for the title this year" without any idea of how to do it.
Before the Liverpool game, I said I could see him go on an okay run if his favorites pick up form. I didn't expect him to deviate from playing on the counter in big games. He's clearly lost the other players so he won't change his line up now, and I think it'll rub off on Bruno, Ronaldo, etc. One shit goal conceded and they will be thinking: "here we go again". That must be detrimental to performances.
Bailly/Matic/VDB/Telles have put in better performances in their limited game time this season than Maguire/Shaw/McFred. (the CAF ratings confirm this, with exception of Telles who made a big mistake in his one game)
Let's go by common consensus. Everybody in the footballing world and every fan - bar some here or there - knows he cannot win trophies at Utd. That he is not competent enough. Him believing he can improve, is a crazy concept. The fact that Ole is carrying this disease like belief in his cranium is a horrific scenario. Not blaming him for believing is like not blaming religious fundamentalists for believing in the Rapture or whatever.
That's all valid - and you can critique his coaching, his management, his approach. But it frustrates me when people name call mercenary just because they're annoyed at him or the club for not sacking him. Fecking idiot posts.
He's going to get the sack, it's inevitable. We just have to wait. This is fully on the board though - 7 day break and they won't do it now. Bet they do it during a congested run and we're panicking for results with a game every 3 days.
It's the mentality of most managers. In their mind they are paid to do a job and they will do it until the club tells them otherwise. To suggest that he doesn't care about the club is insane.
As per Whitehall's article: "some players and staff want him out". I mean there's literally zero reason to persist at this point, yet here we are.
Got ya, my point was that he's misguided in thinking he can get us on back on track. The odds of his favorites picking up form or Ole getting the players he's frozen out to play for him are too slim.
The remaining hope is that the Board are delaying while they actively tie down a successor. It’s the only possibility that makes sense. Otherwise I don’t see how they expect this to work out. Would Ole suddenly win the players and staff over again? Would he improve dramatically as a coach just because he’s under pressure? Or is the Board going to sell every player and staff member that wants him out?
You do understand that Manchester United will have to compensate Ole if they fire him for the value of his contract regardless if he's here or not?
Look at it this way: How much backbone do you need to have to show up for work still thinking you can turn this around while everyone are out to get you? Probably quite a lot.
In my view, the position has become untenable and will take a miracle to rescue, but this amount of disrespect is unbecoming.
I think that's what's happening. The club are delaying the inevitable because they don't have the next man lined up yet. They know there's next to zero chance of him turning around, once the manager losing the players it's curtains.
Taking the morning training session
Wow
If he’s lost the dressing room then the players will simply down tools against Spurs. It’s a fecking pointless exercise, why throw any more points down the drain?
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