Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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Ole is lucky Klopp is a nice person, showed some respect and stopped at 5.
He could have made terrible history and scored 8 or more.
Not like Ole trying to score as many as he could when Southampton were playing with 2 red cards, one from the very beginning of the match.
 
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el3mel said:
Most of these points I have already replied on in another discussion thread, so I don't want to repeat myself. I have talked about that rebuild project everyone seem to be talking about and in comparison to the previous managers.

As for Moyes, he inherited a title winning squad indeed, but a squad with most of its best players being old ones playing their last few seasons, some mediocre players that were covered by SAF's abilities and were immediately sold by the next manager after Moyes. This squad needed a massive rebuild, Moyes didn't get any of his signings he wanted and had to sign Fellaini because of no one else available, sacked 8 months in his 6 years contract and wasn't even given a 2nd transfer window.

Not saying Moyes would have succeeded or deserved to stay, but the reality is Ole got the most time, the most backing and achieved the least among all of these managers. If these managers are all shit when they actually achieved more than Ole with less backing and less quality, what that make of Ole, the guy who splashed more than 400m in 3 years and his team still look shit and disjointed mess ?

There's nothing reactionary in it. He's an awful coach. Always has been.
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Moyes has been the worst thing that happened to this club and nothing changes that. Jose and Van gaal were hardly great either. Ole this season has been a disaster, but anyone saying he is the worst are just biased. Only wish he had left last season.
 
Ignoring the game and so on, I've noticed a trend in our managers post-Ferguson.

They all begin to look a bit sickly the longer they've been in the job.

Solskjaer as well seems to have caught that this season.

Stress perhaps? Arguably the most demanding job in football.
 
AshRK said:
Moyes has been the worst thing that happened to this club and nothing changes that. Jose and Van gaal were hardly great either. Ole this season has been a disaster, but anyone saying he is the worst are just biased. Only wish he had left last season.
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As do I.

The rest is nonsense.
 
Anustart89 said:
Out of the things Ole has publicly said that he wants his team to do, has he succeeded in anything?

When he came in he wanted us to be fitter than the opponents
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He did bring in handsome players. So theres that. We looked much fitter than those ugly cretins playing for Pool.
 
90% of the fanbase went into this season with expectations of improving coming of that summer window and look where we are now. Pretty much every single fan thought top 3 was certain. If we stick with Ole even top 4 is in danger.

Absolutely sickening how with this squad we are on par with Arsenal.

Even you who still support him can no longer honestly say he's not out of his depth..
 
We are going backwards with better players and thats down to him.

If you look at Pogbas comment about us having to find a solution for a problem that keeps happening and Bruno when he said he trusts and follows he manager, its clear that these professionals have been doing their best following Ole. So anyone who says its 100% on the players are talking rubbish. These players need a proper guidance. When Moyes came it wasnt the players that became shit overnight, its Moyes that was absolutely clueless. And yet the players followed his instructios to cross the ball 100 times. Theyre paid professionals.
 
VidaRed said:
He's delusional.
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Or he just knows that this is his only chance to coach at these levels and that once he leaves United he'll never get a job close to it. So why end it himself when he can wait and hope something changes?

Plus, there's also the question of compensation if he's sacked. And, I won't even be shocked if rather than sacking him we'd end up booting him upstairs to another role or something.
 
UnofficialDevil said:
Ole is lucky Klopp is a nice person, showed some respect and stopped at 5.
He could have made terrible history and scored 8 or more.
Not like Ole trying to score as many as he could when Southampton were playing with 2 red cards, one from the very beginning of the match.
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If we were 5-0 up at Anfield having seen them plateau under a directionless Jamie Redknapp, I'd probably want to keep him in the job more than getting 8 or 9.

That being said, I think Klopp was mainly concerned with avoiding injuries once they had summarily destroyed us.
 
I would love to hear Fergie's true thoughts on the state of the club after today. It looked like he had a lot to say to the fella sitting next to him.
 
Tom Van Persie said:
I would love to hear Fergie's true thoughts on the state of the club after today. It looked like he had a lot to say to the fella sitting next to him.
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Part of my frustration comes from the fact I knew he was sitting there powerless and nobody knows about this rivalry as much as Sir Alex, it truly must have been an awful moment for him to see this at Old Trafford.
 
Martial'sEmergingSmile said:
This was a pretty shit line too:



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Just...why? Why would you come out and say we only finished ahead of them because Van Dijk got injured? What could he even be aiming for with that comment?
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So when we finish 20+ points behind them he can say "told you". "We need xx seasons, and a load more players to compete"
 
My wife rarely watches a game, but she is of the opinion that Ole, having signed a 3 year contact, may want to get fired to receive a large termination payoff. I think my wife may be on to something, follow the money.
 
Almost 3 years into the job and we look worse than ever under Ole, even that first part of 2019/20 season where we played the likes of Pereira, James, Lingard as our first choices didn't look this bad, and that team was very limited.

We're probably only rich and big club that may not sack manager after the season we've had so far, topping it with this kind of defeat.

Pogba is probably leaving either way in the summer, Ronaldo is 37 in February so not a vital part of our team but can't see Bruno staying beyond this season, spending his best, peak years in a team that's going nowhere.

City, Chelsea and Liverpool are cemented for top 4 and Glazers and the board should be aware of possibility of us finishing outside top 4 in the league, with one of few solid teams maybe taking that 4th place. Hopefully that possibility is good enough reason for them to hire someone else as we're still not far away in the league and are in good position to get to knockout stages of Champions League. This season isn't lost if club act promptly.
 
MattofManchester said:
Ignoring the game and so on, I've noticed a trend in our managers post-Ferguson.

They all begin to look a bit sickly the longer they've been in the job.

Solskjaer as well seems to have caught that this season.

Stress perhaps? Arguably the most demanding job in football.
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It is nowhere near the most demanding job in football. In fact, it is the least demanding job from any of the managerial jobs in top clubs.

Essentially, there is no other big club who gives near as much support as United. Unlimited signings, highest wage bill, fantastic fan support in the stadium. All you have to do in return is get a place in UCL, play shit on a stick football and smile, and you can get years as manager, while on any other big club you would have been sacked within the first 6 months.
 
MattofManchester said:
Ignoring the game and so on, I've noticed a trend in our managers post-Ferguson.

They all begin to look a bit sickly the longer they've been in the job.

Solskjaer as well seems to have caught that this season.

Stress perhaps? Arguably the most demanding job in football.
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I don’t think it is. Almost every other top club would have binned our post-Fergie managers a lot sooner. We seem to have an insanely low ceiling for what constitutes being good enough and it’s quite frankly bizarre how Ole has lasted this long.

Im not even convinced Ole believes his job is genuinely at threat. I recall similar levels of delusion from Moyes when he claimed he was looking forward to more big European nights in the champions league for years to come.

The Chelsea job is a demanding one since you know you’re only a run of a few bad results away from the chop at any time. The Barca and Madrid job are demanding considering how notoriously hostile their fans get if you’re not delivering constant success. Heck even managing Watford is a more demanding job these days.
 
Revan said:
It is nowhere near the most demanding job in football. In fact, it is the least demanding job from any of the managerial jobs in top clubs.

Essentially, there is no other big club who gives near as much support as United. Unlimited signings, highest wage bill, fantastic fan support in the stadium. All you have to do in return is get a place in UCL, play shit on a stick football and smile, and you can get years as manager, while on any other big club you would have been sacked within the first 6 months.
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You are actually right in everything you say but the human body does not respond to stress in that way. Just because they get much more time than others doesn't mean they won't be under constant stress. Either way you are right. No other top club sticks around with mediocrity as long as we do. This board doesn't even understand the word ruthless.

They gave him another 3 years after losing a cup final to Lord Emery's Villareal...
 
2 of 5 worst PL defeats have come under Ole and he has only been here 3 years. This surely has got to end here top 4 is under a threat under him and we seem rudderless. Our defense looks like it was thrown together by Ted Lasso.
 
He cannot be given another game!

If we keep giving him more he will manage to win one or two which will keep him here harming our long term future
 
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He loves himself more than the club where as we love the club more than any person involved in it.
 
arthurka said:
2 of 5 worst PL defeats have come under Ole and he has only been here 3 years. This surely has got to end here top 4 is under a threat under him and we seem rudderless. Our defense looks like it was thrown together by Ted Lasso.
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Make no mistake about it, top 4 is definitely under risk of losing out on if he get's the full year. Our upcoming 5 games might actually end it for us.
 
I just don’t understand how he can get it so fecking wrong all the time.

It’s nothing new the defence has been a shambles since Demba Ba ran through in the CL and he threw away the EL final with crazy decisions that 90% of people on here would recognise.
 
arthurka said:
2 of 5 worst PL defeats have come under Ole and he has only been here 3 years. This surely has got to end here top 4 is under a threat under him and we seem rudderless. Our defense looks like it was thrown together by Ted Lasso.
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Just 3 points behind top 4. once we are 10-15 points behind, the board will act.
 
Well atleast there’s no club leaks. I don’t expect a sacking until the next international duty though.
 
BlueHaze said:
Make no mistake about it, top 4 is definitely under risk of losing out on if he get's the full year. Our upcoming 5 games might actually end it for us.
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We haven't kept a clean sheet in 20 games teams that can't defend never win shit. Like Scholes said we will get found out playing against better teams.
izec said:
Just 3 points behind top 4. once we are 10-15 points behind, the board will act.
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Sad thing is that many will try to point out that it is still early season. But the truth is that we will throw another season away and rinse repeat the same cluster feck we did with Ole.
 
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This alone should sack him tomorrow. When all your rivals want you to keep your manager its proof they don't even factor you as the slightest threat.

The thing is our rivals have known Ole would get us nowhere since day 1.

He has improved the squad but otherwise failed.
 
Skills said:
He's a meme. Like a non-self aware version of Skip Bayless
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Yeah honestly even worse than Skippy. I'd watch Skip and Shannon ahead of Neville any day. It's gotten to a point now where 90% of what comes out of him in regards to us is purely embarrassing.
 
BlueHaze said:
Yeah honestly even worse than Skippy. I'd watch Skip and Shannon ahead of Neville any day. It's gotten to a point now where 90% of what comes out of him in regards to us is purely embarrassing.
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Yeah Skip Bayless is a professional troll. He's there to generate clicks and get people talking.

Gary Neville isn't that. Gary Neville is just the pundit version of Solskjaer. He's just way out of his depth and people like Carragher and co are laughing at his incompetence.
 
He said that we've come too far to give up now. What have we done coming so far? 2nd place in a poor PL season? Never really played great football? Won feck all in 4 years? Yeah, we've come really far alright.

That's the thing. For this coaching staff who have no accomplishments getting CL football regardless of spending is some sort of achievement. For Manchester United its not.
 
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