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Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Last season was his peak, he’s done now and we just have to waste another season watching the inevitable play out before our eyes. That new contract is uptime meaningless as it won’t save him but looks even more of a stupid decision now than it did at the time.
Yeah you might be onto something. Ronaldo walking off straight down the tunnel says a lot to me. Can imagine him going absolutely ballistic in there.
1 clean sheet in the last 17 now, I believe.
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He'll not be here next season and it's clear he's taken us as far as his limitations allow him. The thing is I don't trust the board to replace him with the right appointment.
It's hard not to be completely demoralised after the state of our last four managers. At least Ole will have left behind a squad with potential so that's something to cling on to.
It's hard not to be completely demoralised after the state of our last four managers. At least Ole will have left behind a squad with potential so that's something to cling on to.
No game for 2 weeks now, I’m really not sure where we go from here. The obvious answer is to sack him but I personally think it’s unrealistic the club will take that action this early in the season.
I suspect we’ll have a depressing game against Leicester and get a pasting against Liverpool before we see any movement.
I suspect we’ll have a depressing game against Leicester and get a pasting against Liverpool before we see any movement.
We wouldn’t win it without Ole either, although we’ve gone round in these circles before.
Criticism is justifiable at the moment, absolutely, but the midfield situation is truly dire.
I’ve backed him for his entire reign. He’s taken us as far as he can. We need an elite manager To take the next step
He is NOT a top 4 manager. Have you seen our team! This team has Ole as the anvil around their neck. He is actually pulling down a squad ready to compete for the title to a top 4 position as he is that poor. If our team was a team where top 4 would have been a scrap, he would have us 7-8th. We saw that before Bruno came in. It's absolutely evident he brings down the overall ability of the team single-handedly.
Why does 80% of games under him made to look harder than it actually is? It feels like a lot of games we win in the past calendar year are 1-0 or 2-1, where we’re holding on by the seat of our pants until 90 minute stoppage time or the opposing team looks much more threatening than we do throughout the game.
fecking smiling while we drop points.
Look. It's early on in the season and there's still theoretically time to turn it round. If we win upcoming games against the big sides in October, as we've done before under Ole, things could look very different. But...
It's getting harder and harder to defend Ole, or even remain neutral. He has a lot of great qualities, but it's painfully obvious the coaching is substandard. How are we so poor at defensive transitions? How is it possible that when a team breaks on us, we can have an entire side of the pitch not covered by a single player? And am I really expected to accept that a team with this much quality can't break down an Everton side missing four of its best players?
If you can't see the issues at this stage, I can only assume you don't want to. We should have improved more than we have by this point. But it is increasingly feeling like this is just Ole's ceiling...
It's getting harder and harder to defend Ole, or even remain neutral. He has a lot of great qualities, but it's painfully obvious the coaching is substandard. How are we so poor at defensive transitions? How is it possible that when a team breaks on us, we can have an entire side of the pitch not covered by a single player? And am I really expected to accept that a team with this much quality can't break down an Everton side missing four of its best players?
If you can't see the issues at this stage, I can only assume you don't want to. We should have improved more than we have by this point. But it is increasingly feeling like this is just Ole's ceiling...
He’s making millions and will never again manage a club of a similar status to United, most probably he’ll not even get anywhere close to that level. There is zero pressure on him achieving results as the board and many of our fans are very much satisfied with our top4 no trophies ambition. It’s a perfect situation for him and I’m surprised people are shocked to see him smiling at the final whistle - these lost points mean less to him than to many upset fans here, because Ole never seemed to have thought we actually have a chance at winning something, while some here rightly expected a challenge or two considering our squad. Not gonna happen.
Should be gone by the end of the season, earlier if we're out of top 4 or fail to make it out of the CL group.
If you're going to bench your best and most important player, you better win.
We've been absolutely horrendous against wolves, Southampton, West ham in league cup, Villa, Everton, Young Boys and Villareal. Do you really think we will do any better against better teams? This is our last chance to do well as we will lose Pogba next season and Ronaldo will be 37 so, we really need to get a decent manager before it's too late. Look how well sacking Lampard turned out for Chelsea. We need a decent manager to do well with what is a really good squad on paper. Ole was supposed to be a placeholder and he acts like one as well.
He got us to consecutive UCLs something that no manager since Sir Alex had done, he's earned at least 3 more years without pressure.
Ole gets the club, has the DNA in his blood, he's a young manager thats still learning. He's only managed for 10 years or something like that so it's ok if he keeps learning here.
It will eventually come good, and even if we end up winning feck at all he'll leave the team in a much better place than what we had it under Mourinho. That was toxic you know? We should be grateful that it's not toxic anymore.
Ole gets the club, has the DNA in his blood, he's a young manager thats still learning. He's only managed for 10 years or something like that so it's ok if he keeps learning here.
It will eventually come good, and even if we end up winning feck at all he'll leave the team in a much better place than what we had it under Mourinho. That was toxic you know? We should be grateful that it's not toxic anymore.
Exact same.
Its time to sack him, its that simple. Even benitez would take this side further
Townsend just said that considering the injuries Everton would usually be happy with 1 point. However considering the chances they had then they are disappointed not getting all 3 points.
Pickford had nothing to do in the second half. and even in the first a couple of saves.
It's not me, it's you?
Remember when Bruno kept him in the job after joining United? I feel like this time it'll be Ronaldo that does the same.
Why the hell not? We've one of the best squads in the league
I can't imagine what's going through the heads of people who think Ole will suddenly turn competent.
He has spent 55m on AWB and 70 and Sancho. I don't think any manager in the history of the game has been allowed to burn the kind of Money Ole has for no substantial results. I know we won't sack him but there is no PL club who'd keep him incharge.
He has spent 55m on AWB and 70 and Sancho. I don't think any manager in the history of the game has been allowed to burn the kind of Money Ole has for no substantial results. I know we won't sack him but there is no PL club who'd keep him incharge.
I would hope so.
Two wrongs shouldn't make a right..but yeah you are probably correct, however the leeway this man gets because of his playing career with us is really having a negative effect.
No other manager would be getting the same level of support if they had no affiliation with the club.
Oh yes he will. We will somehow scrap into top 4 and ole will have met his minimum requirements. And the owners will reward him with an improved 6 year contract.
I genuinely want to hear a good reason from the Ole ins as to why we should give up on this season just to give him a chance?
Are trophies won with other managers any less worthy than those he might win, which aren’t exactly forthcoming right now? What was Busby and Fergie to this club before they came here?
Are trophies won with other managers any less worthy than those he might win, which aren’t exactly forthcoming right now? What was Busby and Fergie to this club before they came here?
I wonder how many more points we would have lost if half these teams weren't missing their best players? With the fixtures coming up we are absolutely toast.
He’s clearly done a lot of good for this club, but tactically he’s not good enough. Considering that we’re not set up to rotate managers, replacing him could be hugely disruptive. It would have to be an astute appointment, I hope we look at it if the right manager is available.
That midfield is poor but it's not like Liverpool have prime Barca midfield. Ole cannot get a tune out of a structure to improve us and he cannot get our team to break down a low block. He is ok when we need to counter and he is all at sea without that.
I never saw saf smiling even if we won a underserved scrappy 1 nil.
Creating lower quality chances than an Benitez-led Everton team.
Without fail every single game.Where the heck were these lots of chances we created? I genuinely can’t remember one Pickford save in the second half.
He really doesn't help himself laughing and smiling after watching that.
I'm not asking for him to be sitting there in tears or smashing the dugout up but it's just not a good look to have had yet another appalling performance and shit result and then it cuts to the manager and he's having a laugh and a giggle on the side.
If he doesn't care then why should we?
I'm not asking for him to be sitting there in tears or smashing the dugout up but it's just not a good look to have had yet another appalling performance and shit result and then it cuts to the manager and he's having a laugh and a giggle on the side.
If he doesn't care then why should we?
That's why I said we didn't take our chances. Ronaldo blasted wide, Pogba headed clear, Pogba didn't get his curler on target, McT didn't connect with the layoff. Just off the top of my head.
Whoever we bring in next, whether soon or at the end of season, it has to be someone NOT a part of class of 92 or legends. They can help the reserve team if they want. Because I believe the board is stupid enough to appoint Rooney as manager so he reunites with Ronaldo.
Zero accountability for his favourites
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