shit team. Full of stat padders, very lucky, all the time. Wank football. I watch football to be entertained feck the results
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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shit team. Full of stat padders, very lucky, all the time. Wank football. I watch football to be entertained feck the results
I think Ole has done a good job because he’s majorly slashed the wage bill and kept us competitive. He’s getting more robust younger players who can play nearly every game. We still need to bring in an awful lot more quality if we want to make the jump to being a top team. We can’t rotate at RW, LW, Striker at all. We are flat out playing everyone who is available in every single game regardless of form, compatibility or even injury. There’s nobody else apart from the youth if we need to freshen it up. One or two more top players would make a huge difference if Ole would learn how to rotate
We need players to push those to the bench to give us the squad to really challenge in 38 league games and have enough quality to rotate and still win cup games etc. Plus everyones knackered they need a proper summer off.
They should have scrapped the euros in my opinion or made it an informal kind of kick-about with b teams. The football calender is ludicrous and the players are playing too much catchup. Got to get world cup qualifiers in too. Looking at the state of our group is it really necessary for england to have to prove we can beat those two bit teams twice?
Seriously our owners need to put down the cash to bring some good key players in here. We are worth billions but our entire current roster of forwards cost less than we got for Lukaku. We need to step it up and stop flogging the players we have to death. We need a lot more.
Ah, is this like a little sarcastic ‘schtick’ you do when you don’t like someone criticising the current team?
Not Bolton I think. They are Arsenal’s nightmare though. Blackburn was tough definitely for us.
guy is killing my love for the sport
Yet people think we just need more world-class players to play better. Clueless just like Ole.
We have a better team than Granada, yet we still played like amateurs. It is not down to the players at this point.
Did you have much love for the sport before?
bollocks. There are teams capable of having great games in the competition.
losing a match doesn’t mean you ‘bottle it’.
it’s not about liking or not liking the phrase, it’s about calling out people who use it incorrectly.
2-0 away from home is a very good result, not entertaining game but good enough performance in European away game against La Liga midtable team.
I did
You loved LVG and Jose’s United?
just go and watch netball will ya
No, I did not love LVG’s nor Jose’s United teams, which makes it harder to stomach Ole’s.
I’ll pass on your suggestion. For now.
What does them being able to play good games have anything to do with the fact that we are by far the strongest team remaining in the competition? Are Arsenal who are setting 10th in the same league as us anywhere close in strength to the 2nd team in the league ? Roma? Ajax? Villarreal? These are our competitors, all a step down from United's level.
If you are by far the strongest team in competition and go out to an inferior team then it's a bottling job. Again, it's doesn't really matter if you like the phrase or not.
Or it's fine using this term on other teams but not us? Spurs bottled it massively against Dinamo, they were top favorites and had great first leg result and went out in a shambolic way. Should we not call their exit "bottling" now just because Dinamo can put on "good matches" ?
Either you don't like the phrase being used on United only or you straight up don't like the term in general which, as I said, doesn't make it any false. I have seen many here previously who didn't like using it on Poch's Spurs, it is fine, still doesn't make it any wrong of a term in any way. When you are top favorite to get through and throw it away you bottled it, period.
Just because we were boring under those managers, doesn't mean we have to enjoy or accept the quality of football under Ole.
You loved LVG and Jose’s United?
just go and watch netball will ya
We're such a dull, lifeless football team and it's been like this for 8 years. Even when we win big, it's so darn functional and uninspiring. Would love for us to become a truly entertaining side again. I can't see it changing unless we add some really special players in the summer or have a tactical revolution at OT.
Its so weird that you say that without any context. What if we lose after a Nani against Madrid like decision? Is that a bottle job? @ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg is right, bottle job is such an overused term.
In 2 legs tie we should easily defeat any remaining team in the competition even if we fecked up in one game of the two. This is different from facing Real Madrid, of course.
Yes, a lot of people don't like this term here, as I used, there have been complaints about using it on Poch's Spurs back when he was still managing them. It's your opinions, but liking a term or not doesn't mean it's right or false by any means.
So under any context we lose to a worse team it’s a bottle job? It’s not about not liking a term it’s about a term being complete and utter rubbish.
The final is only one leg.
Look, I see your point about the context when it comes to the final or something, but in 2 legs tie there's no passable context in which it's acceptable for United to go out facing an inferior side. You can feck up or have a terrible referring in one game but not two.
Not really? Fine, what if there is a shockingly poor red card decision to one of our players in both legs in the first minute? Unlikely but surely a context where it isn’t a bottle job?
My point is you can retrospectively point to a bottle job performance but flat out preempting it is a bit silly. Especially when we’re facing Ajax or Roma who aren’t a joke by any means.
Do you go around taking the time to tell people what they’re free to do in your day to day life?
I don’t know what kind of weirdo stuff you have going on, but I do not post on redcafe because I want to be missed by most fans.
Bizarre post
I mean you know this is a far fetched scenario.
Ajax and Roma are a step below United. We will be top favorites in everyone's eyes to get through. They aren't bad. We are far stronger though.
Anyway, let's just hope we will win it and won't have to actually discuss if we bottled it or not in the future.
Yes but it’s a potential context, would it be a bottle job?
Agreed.
Well, it won't, I can't complain, Ok.
Its not quite the same though is it. Pretty much everyone can tell if a player had a poor game or not. Greenwood had a poor game, but no one is suggesting we bin him off and if they did everyone would tell them to feck off.
It was a drab afair alright, but a good result nonetheless. Why are you having a go at the manager? Granada played with 10 men behind the ball all game, even at 1-0. Considering our most creative player is running on fumes and pretty much all of our attacking players are in terrible form, did you expect us to tear through them?
You poor soul. Those of us who enjoy watching our team are surely blessed.
Well, it won't, I can't complain, Ok.
have a good one buddy!I love how people expected us to easily steamroll past a Granada side who didn`t get to where they are by accident. They didn`t just knock out the likes of Napoli miraculously on their day they can cause problems for anyone and after seeing them yesterday they are quite clearly aggressive ruffians a tactic that can frustrate any top team. A 2 goal cushion both being away goals plus a cleansheet is a huge positive. An earlier post here compared this to our CL winning season in 2008 which is frankly bobbins but a relevant example is our last EL winning campaign with Jose. We shithoused our way to winning the trophy for practically 70-80% of the competition so people are going to have to accept we are at a stage where getting the result is what matters and based on our 16/17 season it worked out perfectly
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Thats the most melodramatic thing ive read in a while
People are really annoyed at the fact that we didn't put away Granada in style. Even though you know, we won 2-0, it was very controlled, we conceded no clear chances, it was midweek and only our second game back from Internationals, and Granada themselves deserve credit for the level they reached to this season.
We've lost what, 1 in the last 20 odd games or so, with an injured Rashford, no real right winger and no fit striker and people expect us to control games and play with style more frequently than we have, in a congested fixture season where fatigue sets in even more than normal?
Even I doubt Ole at times, but feck off with that.
We've lost what, 1 in the last 20 odd games or so, with an injured Rashford, no real right winger and no fit striker and people expect us to control games and play with style more frequently than we have, in a congested fixture season where fatigue sets in even more than normal?
Even I doubt Ole at times, but feck off with that.
Thanks mate still waiting for mods to like that post
Yeah he said getting second with that squad was his biggest career achievement. I mean the squad is pretty good especially the first XI. But at the same time looking at City’s depth it’s clear Ole needs backing in the market to compete with them. Attacking reinforcement is needed.
Finally some common sense, and that bolded part is really something everyone should take into consideration before they declare they will fall on their swords.
Granada tried to shithouse themselves to an result here and we did not let them.
Great post!
Last nights result was a job well done.
We always looked the stronger team, and Granada never really threatened us. Their biggest chances were those 2-3 long shots that hit straight at De Gea.
They were also playing shithouse tactics, kicking at our heels and coming late into tackles always when the ref was looking the other way. While the ref kept carding us for just looking at them the wrong way. You could easily see how frustrated our boys got with the ref, but they had to act like nothing and play a measured and controlled way to get through the match with a result and as few as possible suspensions. There was no way we could try to play fancy with those constraints.
Great result away, it should make the return leg (with a different ref) an easy affair to get through.
The football is fecking dire. As long as he keeps getting results we will be stuck with this for a while.
Exactly this. Its as if people lose all semblance of context when criticising games like last night.
Id understand if it just happened, if this were the end game of the rebuild but these same criticisms are from the same fans who were slating him this time last year or this time 2 years ago.
On the other hand, its a great sign that our fanbase are now taking wins for granted.
Also worth noting that a lot of SAF's dominant wins in Europe or even in cups were far from pretty. They were boring and controlled but we often got the job done convincingly enough.
Ha ha. It seems that way yeah
It's really not that simple. Give him time and the money to buy some exciting players (Grealish, Sancho etc) and watch how the football improves.
Managers get you results
Players give you style
Solid game yesterday, even though it was quite boring. I'll take a 2 goal win and a clean sheet away from home in the QF in Europa every single time, the performance is secondary really.
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