Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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ForeverRed1 said:
Does anyone still want him out?
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Right now only City and Liverpool fans.
After the season it may depend on who we can get and if our form has declined.

It we keep up performing then I think we will win something this season.
If City and us keep performing the same then I think we will win the league.
Although they can get Aguero back which would improve them.
 
Paul_Scholes18 said:
Right now only City and Liverpool fans.
After the season it may depend on who we can get and if our form has declined.

It we keep up performing then I think we will win something this season.
If City and us keep performing the same then I think we will win the league.
Although they can get Aguero back which would improve them.
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We can get Martial, Marcus and Mason back. Which would improve us.
 
FatherWolff said:
We live in two different worlds, you and I. Molde? Molde is a selling club, and difficult to maintain a squad. Once he had it, he played it. His results in Europe proves it.

Maguire is perfect for a high line! Is is good on the ball and will win 99% of any head duell. He needs a compadre covering runs behind though. You can bitch all you like about his price. But centerbacks is expensive these days..

Leave our Aaron alone! He is young and unfinished article. But has talent as few right backs do. We are not even close being one of the best squads. We are even unbalanced looking at mid tables clubs. You need to read more and play more fifa!
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You are right, except from the exaggeration “we are unbalanced looking at mid tables clubs“;)
 
Struggling. should really have buried that mid table team we played in the cup today.

Only beat them by one goal, they are out of the top 6 of everyone wins their games in hand?
 
anant said:
Where is the "Guess where we would have been had we had a competent manager?" group now?
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They generally take the night off when they know their argument is bollocks. They’ll come back tomorrow with the “moments of brilliance” and “Liverpool were there for the taking” arguments most likely.

Fantasy land.
 
Ole knows we're still 2-3 players short, I'm looking forward to seeing who he brings in over the summer. Regardless of what happens between now and the end of the season, he still has work to do on this squad.
 
keener said:
I so love Ole and that he's one of our own making good at the club. I like his style and think the media are always just looking to pick at us to try to criticize when there's nothing there to be critical of... That said I do have one criticism and I'm hopeful he's slowly going to get this right as well. I can't see his insistence on including Martial so often. It's not just his scoring form, he can't hold up the ball thus can't plan as a target man up top, he can't make more than a 5 foot pass, has no vision. I've grown so overwhelmingly disappointed with him that when I watch him play, I begin counting his turnovers (often easily in double digits) instead of enjoying the game. He's such an interruption to how we play and what we actually need is #7 ALWAYS up top. Cavani is THE solution and makes us truly a lethal side with his movement, his finishing and his unselfishness. Cavani works his brains out for us every second and think he should play every second he's able. I'm hopeful we can acquire a truly top winger to go with Rashford and Cavani so we can play the 433 that Ole seems to want to play. I'd prefer that formation for us as well but have been excited lately to see the diamond in the midfield because that allows us to get our actual best players on the field as we have solid midfielders at this moment with Donny not even getting a real run of games and I rate him so highly. Having Fred, McTom, Pog and Bruno in the lineup is so solid in the midfield so I'm currently willing to concede the width and pace of a proper 433 for the quality of our 442.

I've seen enough of Martial's crap and I'm hoping Ole will fade him to the background as this season progresses but there are NO signs of that.
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Martial showed that he can be the number 9 last season.

He held it up well with his close control and was actually battling centre halves. He was scoring headers and fox in the box goals too. He had 17 goals and 6 assists from 32 league games.

I was hoping he would kick on this season but that bloody sending off against Tottenham really knocked him back and I reckon Cavani being signed might have knocked his confidence a bit.

Ole obviously rates him especially for the fact that he can play across the front. I agree with you that his vision isn't great but I think he's at least a very very good squad player. Ole seems to know what he's doing.
 
FatherWolff said:
We live in two different worlds, you and I. Molde? Molde is a selling club, and difficult to maintain a squad. Once he had it, he played it. His results in Europe proves it.

Maguire is perfect for a high line! Is is good on the ball and will win 99% of any head duell. He needs a compadre covering runs behind though. You can bitch all you like about his price. But centerbacks is expensive these days..

Leave our Aaron alone! He is young and unfinished article. But has talent as few right backs do. We are not even close being one of the best squads. We are even unbalanced looking at mid tables clubs. You need to read more and play more fifa!
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FatherWolff said:
Try pulling your own. We have holes in our squad bigger than most teams down the table. Most of us know this, and know what we need. Guess you are not one of them. We are a couple of injuries short, and we are back playing Lingard as our number 10. And we have no cover at right back. If you think Matic can cover the same ground as Fred, I don’t know know what to tell you..
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Seeing as though most teams have 2 players for each position, a couple of injuries in the same position will always see teams struggling. Just look at Liverpool.

We're short Jack Grealish. That is all
 
crossy1686 said:
So the real question is, who do we sack Ole in favour of at the end of the season? Pochettino is at PSG so we can’t hire him.

What are our options?
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Fletcher 'til the end of the season.
 
While I love the team he has built and think he is doing well, today’s game is not the game to gloat I don’t think.

This is a struggling Liverpool team that haven’t won yet this year (bar against villas kids). It would have been poor to lose to them at home with Williams at the back.

It’s a good result, but I don’t think there is much to take away from today besides that. Always great to beat Liverpool, but I don’t think today’s result is particularly significant.
 
Never been Ole out...but he is performing better than I expected.

The mentality he seems to have installed is most important to me.

Man management seems to be elite. How he is handling Pogba, Dean Henderson and VDB is amazing.

I mean he gave VDB 70 mins today and unfortunately for Donny it only took Bruno 7 mins to make more of impact.

Gotta trust the process I guess.

Long may this continue.
 
Have to give him so much credit for his squad management of late. Our fixtures have been absolutely relentless and yet we're getting results whilst staying (touch wood) fit and healthy

Shef utd should be another chance to rest one or two too

I want him to win a cup so badly, it'll get the last of the naysayers off his back
I think the league might be a step too far but the FA Cup would be lovely
 
Eventually even the ABU media will be forced to recognise Ole's impact at Old Trafford as manager. Again we went behind, this time against a top team. Yet the mentality was right to come back. Since Sir Alex retired its been so easy to get at us. Setbacks in games have often led to limp finishes and the odd collapse. However, under Ole some of our old never say die spirit has been restored.

When Liverpool equalised they got some real wind in their sails and, under Mourinho or Van Gaal or Moyes, I could have seen the game getting away from us. Not tactically, mentally. We have been soft upstairs over the past seven years. However, Ole made the right subs. He brought Fred on to settle us defensively, he introduced Bruno to help our forward press, and we got our rewards.

We're on a roll and long may it continue.
 
Said that he wanted to be more adventurous when we played Liverpool last week and that's exactly what he did today.

Took the game to Liverpool, especially in the first half and got the job done in the end.

The sub of Fred and Bruno changed the course of the game, as before that, Liverpool looked likely to get the third.

Doing great things at the moment and rotating players in the process.

Well in, Ole!
 
Mockney said:
Think that was huge mentally. Have to say he’s proving all my doubts embarrassingly wrong at the moment
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Fair play for admitting you were wrong. I hope you can see now that a manager doesn't necessarily have to have qualifications or experience to be successful. Pep didn't have any when he took over at Barca.
I hope you can see now that we weren't affording Ole leeway when we stood by him. We saw that he was signing good players, instilling a team ethic and spirit and slowly building the club back to what it used to be, after the club had been dismantled by a sabateur. We had fallen so low and finally we're close to where we belong.
 
Maluco said:
While I love the team he has built and think he is doing well, today’s game is not the game to gloat I don’t think.

This is a struggling Liverpool team that haven’t won yet this year (bar against villas kids). It would have been poor to lose to them at home with Williams at the back.

It’s a good result, but I don’t think there is much to take away from today besides that. Always great to beat Liverpool, but I don’t think today’s result is particularly significant.
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No chance. We were up against a cracking team. They had 1 weak link at the back but Salah, Fabinho, Thiago, Arnold, Robertson, Mane, Wijnaldum and Allison would walk into any team in the league.
 
Big win for Ole! Hadn't beaten Klopp until this evening and did it in some style too I think.

Under Ole, the team has matured and grown more resilient. His best quality is definitely his man management, he has got every player fighting for the win out there, most of all Pogba which is a huge win for him as he is half out of the door already.

There is still some way to go to get back to the levels of yesteryear but I'm confident he will turn us into a force again if backed this summer.
 
As a neutral Caftard, it's great that United is back to challenging the other big clubs. Watching their games is fun again.
 
Olecurls99 said:
Seeing as though most teams have 2 players for each position, a couple of injuries in the same position will always see teams struggling. Just look at Liverpool.

We're short Jack Grealish. That is all
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He play right back to? Didnt know, my bad!
 
This whole Scouse mentality of keeps him in a job longer is going remarkably well. :D
 
Synco said:
As a neutral Caftard, it's great that United is back to challenging the other big clubs. Watching their games is fun again.
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I’ve a Liverpool pal who says the same thing . The buzz is back , rivalry between 2 sets of clubs/ supporters is back .
 
Maluco said:
While I love the team he has built and think he is doing well, today’s game is not the game to gloat I don’t think.

This is a struggling Liverpool team that haven’t won yet this year (bar against villas kids). It would have been poor to lose to them at home with Williams at the back.

It’s a good result, but I don’t think there is much to take away from today besides that. Always great to beat Liverpool, but I don’t think today’s result is particularly significant.
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I would say it is very significant. Simply because now mentally we are getting better. We know that we can concede against Liverpool and still come back and win. That is massive.
 
I will make him our family recipe Nihari, Korma and Karahi if he wins us the league.
 
Olecurls99 said:
No chance. We were up against a cracking team. They had 1 weak link at the back but Salah, Fabinho, Thiago, Arnold, Robertson, Mane, Wijnaldum and Allison would walk into any team in the league.
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Foxbatt said:
I would say it is very significant. Simply because now mentally we are getting better. We know that we can concede against Liverpool and still come back and win. That is massive.
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It might be a cracking team on paper, but a number of those players are woefully out of form and they hadn’t won against a proper team in a while before today. It would have been disappointing to lose to them the way they are playing.

I hope it does provide a mental lift, but a win over Liverpool at the moment isn’t the same. Players need to keep focused and feet firmly on the ground because there will be games ahead with players and teams in far better form than the one they played today.
 
Went through these opinions during the match:

"Why can't we play more like a big club in these matches, they've got a passenger at centre half ffs"
"Ole really knows what he's doing and the team just grows into these matches"
"Why are we inviting them onto us when we're all panicked under the slightest bit of pressure"
"Oh, that's why"
"Why can't you make a sub when we're in the ascendancy here to put this to bed"
"Ah, I see, you're calm and you know what you're doing"
"thank you"
 
Maluco said:
It might be a cracking team on paper, but a number of those players are woefully out of form and they hadn’t won against a proper team in a while before today. It would have been disappointing to lose to them the way they are playing.

I hope it does provide a mental lift, but a win over Liverpool at the moment isn’t the same. Players need to keep focused and feet firmly on the ground because there will be games ahead with players and teams in far better form than the one they played today.
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I’d say a wounded tiger is the most dangerous. It’s not exactly uncommon for form to go out the window in derby matches either. Lord knows they’d be putting teams to bed more consistently if they went at them like they did against us today.
 
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