Handsome Devil
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Bring the Feds in again!Very difficult. Who is going to investigate it? Surely not UEFA as they are as corrupted as the oil clubs.
Bring the Feds in again!Very difficult. Who is going to investigate it? Surely not UEFA as they are as corrupted as the oil clubs.
Have you ever noticed that reporters and media rate clubs on how good their food is? That is one of the things that half of them go on about with City, Arsenal etc. What do United give them? A bowl of gruel.
The Man City stadium wasn't sold out and many of the VIP boxes were empty
They were complaining about OT wifi on Sunday Supplement a few months ago.Have you ever noticed that reporters and media rate clubs on how good their food is? That is one of the things that half of them go on about with City, Arsenal etc. What do United give them? A bowl of gruel.
They were complaining about OT wifi on Sunday Supplement a few months ago.
Why accommodate them at all? I never understood that. It would be mobile phone hotspots all round if I were in charge.
I like the way Chapter 2 starts:
You can be a state backed dodgy shite but some things never change
Then maybe the next episode will name and shame a few people who are on their payroll.I wouldn’t be surprised if journalists have been paid to give Jose and United bad press too.
I know the club hasn’t helped itself, but there’s a lot of journalists out there with an agenda against Jose and United.
Then maybe the next episode will name and shame a few people who are on their payroll.
Bad press can be an indirect result of it though, not a primary aim.I wouldn’t be surprised if journalists have been paid to give Jose and United bad press too.
I know the club hasn’t helped itself, but there’s a lot of journalists out there with an agenda against Jose and United.
Martin Samuel has to be on the payroll.
I believe Stan Collymore is as well. Now imagine the stick he'd give Guardiola if he wouldn't.That slime ball Oliver Holt as well.
Ballbag too.
Juventus ,Milan ,Inter even United to name few regarding City's fraudulent deals you need to understand why it came to that because UEFA came up with farcical FFP almost making it impossible for smaller club's to ever compete with big boys.Of course end game for City is to join elite and become one of the big boys , you can't deny they have shaken up the status quo . Please elaborate how a small club could dream to compete with established elites if outside investment is throttled because that's what FFP ends up doing .
Not going to lie, I want to see them burn. An example needs to be made of them, and UEFA and of FIFA and anyone else involved (Manchester Council?).
The fact Premier League clubs are pushing for an investigation is good. Just because others may be corrupt doesn't mean it should go unchecked. If the likes of Juventus can be demoted in Italy, then City can be crucified here.
Manchester Council are in it up to their necks with the Stadium deal etc, but there again when are local council not corrupt?Not going to lie, I want to see them burn. An example needs to be made of them, and UEFA and of FIFA and anyone else involved (Manchester Council?).
The fact Premier League clubs are pushing for an investigation is good. Just because others may be corrupt doesn't mean it should go unchecked. If the likes of Juventus can be demoted in Italy, then City can be crucified here.
I think it's time for us to become less emotionally invested. If I had a kid, I'd steer him away from being a football club fanatic.
If UEFA do nothing, maybe we will all be booing the CL anthem.Even if City go unpunished in the league, there's surely no way UEFA/City can spin this so much they will escape punishment in form of being banned from the CL? Surely not?
The only way it happens is if other clubs and supporters make a stand.If UEFA do nothing, maybe we will all be booing the CL anthem.
Yeah I think that's a leap.
I wouldn't be surprised if they splurged on the players in other extravagant ways, and that's what keeps them happy.
But funnelling money to dozens of players & staff through off shore accounts is a lot of loose ends, and frankly would be quite sloppy.
However, as a result of this, their reputation and integrity is in pieces, so it's unsurprising that these theories come to mind.
Is there anyway clubs can opt-out of playing in Europe?
If clubs took view that UEFA have compromised their integrity and therefore don't want to participate in any games that UEFA put on, then it will put pressure on them to bring sanctions forward.
Obviously it's a practically impossible idea, but that's the only kind of move that will really cause UEFA to act imo.
Media pressure isn't enough, and their reputation has been in the gutter for many years, they don't care.
Monaco started ‘shaking up the status quo’.......then City and PSG poached Mbappe, Bernardo and Mendy.
Spurs and Liverpool have gradually, organically built clubs that are competitive at the top of the Premier League, but will likely fall short of success because they can’t spend £50m on squad players like City.
Leicester have won the Premier League in the FFP era; Dortmund, Atletico, Liverpool and Juventus have all reached Champions League finals in it too. To suggest it’s implementation has acted as a preservation legislation for the elite clubs is clearly moronic.
City fanboys are laughably paradoxical when trying to defend the club’s vulgarity.
The only way it happens is if other clubs and supporters make a stand.
United, Liverpool, Bayern, Real refusing to enter etc. The problem is these clubs are also desperate about making money (that's what football has become- esacalated by needing to catch up with these Oil clubs) that they don't want that tap off.
Supporters stop following it etc but 95% of fans only care about what's on the pitch, they're not bothered by things like this.
FFS...The Telegraph using a book review - in their Football section, no less - to celebrate City's rise to power:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ears-ago-losing-tomansfield-auto-windscreens/
As much as I'd love to see them go the route of Rangers and Juventus, I don't think there are any laws in the PL about inflating money. FFP only affects European football.
Obviously it looks terrible for the FA that a club cheated their way to glory but they won't do anything about it.
First of all I am United supporter secondly Liverpool happen to be one of the elite and Tottenham for all their good work has also benefited from decline of other top club's let's see whether they can sustain it in the long run, Leicester was a freak a result and Champions League for all it's glory is still a cup and it's laughable you mention club's like Juventus and Dortmund ,Liverpool who happen to be among top club's in their respective countries.
Only some one deluded as you would deny FFP ist a self preservation exercise by Elite club's they feel threatened that continued investment by City and PSG owners would eventually pay off .
If UEFA ban City from the CL for say 3 years. What do you think their players would be thinking? Or prospective future signings? European Cup is the holy grail.What about the Premier League though? Dont the PL and the Football league have their own FFP regulations. the FA dont care about their brand, but the Premier League certainly do. They can go having a club like City involved if this is proven. They would have to revoke their invitation to play in the league, as would the football league if that was the case.
It is blatantly obvious that they have cheated but proving it might be tricky since the evidence is based on illegaly obtained documents and those documents are only emails revealing mostly intentions - not facts. Proving that those intentions have been realised might not be very easy as the traces lead to a country where the access to the necessary information might be blocked or cooked again.
How do we know these documents are obtained illegaly?
Bring the Feds in again!