Official: Solskjær has left his role as manager

I think part of his problem, aside from his lack of tactical knowhow and mismanagement of players, was he was just too nice, he didn't have a ruthless streak. Klopp, SAF, Pep etc seemed to have the balance between knowing when to put an arm round a shoulder and when to put a rocket up a backside. You wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of them, but I just couldn't imagine Ole properly rollicking poor showings. A classic example was hi fiving Maguire yesterday after he perhaps had just hammered the final nail into the coffin.
You rarely saw him in the technical area for long periods of time, I was at the Liverpool game and despite pasting us, Klopp never left his technical area, Ole did get up for periods of time, but would also send his staff or have no one there.
I know he probably didn't really know exactly what to do, but sitting in his seat while the s*** unfolds in front of him sends the message to the players that it's all fine.
Even f1, you look at Hamilton and Verstappen and Schumacher etc - all with a bit of a ruthless streak but they're winning races etc.
Ole was just a bit too nice. This perhaps also links to his not overhauling the coaching staff to help cover his short comings, or dropping massively out of form players.
I can imagine the quotes are true about players liking him as a person but doubting his ability to take them forward on the pitch. Perhaps he was trying too hard to be liked after Jose.

I hope he has a long time out with his family for the benefit of his health.

Even in that interview it looks like a weight has started to lift off his shoulders.
 
Abhi said:
He leaves us with a better squad and in a better shape then when he joined. Couple of additions and a better manager should be able to get much better performance from the team.
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Still don't get this better shape line being banded about. Out of contract Pogba, Lingard, Mata Cavani. Strikers with a combined age of 70.
7th in the league. 120m spunked on Maguire and AWB
 
The fact that he denied experienced coaching help speaks for itself. United is the biggest club in the world and as much as people love to bash the board and the club hierarchy, outside of the decision to sack him too late, they did everything right by Ole.
 
Class interview. A class bloke, he hasn’t deserved all the childish shite he’s been given especially online. He has without doubt left us in a better position on and off the pitch.
 
Massive Spanner said:
That’s just weird. Who fires someone and then does that? :confused:
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Ole is a club legend, he will be around the club in the future for events or maybe even as an ambassador. I think that it's a great thing to not treat him like everyone else and recognize that it's just the end of one journey and the beginning of an other. Personally I have no hard feelings toward him and will be glad to see him around United again. Not as a manager though!
 
JPRouve said:
Ole is a club legend, he will be around the club in the future for events or maybe even as an ambassador. I think that it's a great thing to not treat him like everyone else and recognize that it's just the end of one journey and the beginning of an other. Personally I have no hard feelings toward him and will be glad to see him around United again. Not as a manager though!
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Well said.
 
red4ever 79 said:
Still don't get this better shape line being banded about. Out of contract Pogba, Lingard, Mata Cavani. Strikers with a combined age of 70.
7th in the league. 120m spunked on Maguire and AWB
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Let's see how they look under a new manager. We have Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood, Martial, Bruno, Amad; Cavani barely plays and the other striker is bloody Ronaldo. We will also get to see how VDB and Fred both look under a different manager and I'm sure with better defensive organization, Maguire, Shaw and AWB will look good. Clubs sack managers for a reason and acting like we didn't see great performances for Maguire, Shaw and AWB for the majority of Ole's tenure is recency bias. The new manager would simply need to find us a midfielder and maybe another cb if Maguire proves to not recover his form. Its not too much and is far better than what Mourinho gave him
 
Unfortunately, he turned out to be our Hodgson.
Someone that even the most rabid hater of the club couldn't dislike, but also because it was always fairly clear he'd never bring on a period of success.
Could easily have nicked a cup though. People forget we were some dreadful pens away from the Europa at least. But even in itself that wasn't enough anyway.
 
Jesus, some of these comments! The worst legacy of all this is the Ole in vs Ole out brigade and its toxicity which could take a long time to purge. Calling the man names and insulting a legend is just mind boggling when the ultimate fault lies with the board for hiring him in the first place; remember the line after Jose left; "we will conduct a vigorous and thorough search for the next manager" and Ole wins a few games and suddenly it's "screw the long search, welcome aboard!".

On the other side of the fence, the mental gymnastics defending his time here is equally crazy; he's been lucky to survive the sack on 3 occasions previously and it's been clear as fecking day that this wasn't going to end well despite the top 4 finishes. The optimism was just bordering on delusion at times.

Hopefully we'll put an end to this 90s Liverpool style nostalgia and "United DNA" stuff and look to move forward for once. With the people in charge of the club I seriously have my doubts though.
 
JPRouve said:
Ole is a club legend, he will be around the club in the future for events or maybe even as an ambassador. I think that it's a great thing to not treat him like everyone else and recognize that it's just the end of one journey and the beginning of an other. Personally I have no hard feelings toward him and will be glad to see him around United again. Not as a manager though!
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It’s not Ole I have the problem with. It’s the club. It’s a really weird thing to do when you sack someone for not being good enough at their job. We’d be pissing our holes laughing if Arsenal did it with Arteta.
 
iKnowNothing said:
I wonder if we will ever see him back in the PL as a manager. Who would hire him?
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We won't. I think he'll get a job on a low league or maybe international football for Norway.

There's no chance any team in a top league will hire him, maybe if he has left in the summer but right now his status as a manager has been damaged for ever. He won't get the loser tag off him.
 
Massive Spanner said:
It’s not Ole I have the problem with. It’s the club. It’s a really weird thing to do when you sack someone for not being good enough at their job. We’d be pissing our holes laughing if Arsenal did it with Arteta.
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Arteta isn't an Arsenal legend, if they sack him there will be no reason for him to be tightly and positively associated with the club. Ole is part of the club history, the minute he isn't a manager, he is a club legend as a former player. If opposition fans want to laugh at that they can, I don't care.
 
JPRouve said:
Arteta isn't an Arsenal legend, if they sack him there will be no reason for him to be tightly and positively associated with the club. Ole is part of the club history, the minute he isn't a manager, he is a club legend as a former player. If opposition fans want to laugh at that they can, I don't care.
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I love Ole and I want him to still be associated with the club in a positive way but it’s a really weird thing for the club to release a farewell interview after sacking a manager who wasn’t up to the task. Like seriously, really weird. It just feels wrong.
 
People getting offended for calling a spade a spade? He was a crap and I'm glad to see he is not the manager anymore. The news about United not having any plans to sack him until the Watford result, shows how much of a free rein he had, and often his comments at various times highlighting how much he's taken things for granted. Case in point is the response to RvP(in the first few pages of this thread).

You know what? Good riddance. I hope he doesn't get any job at United that will influence the football side of things here; same for the rest of the ass of 92.
 
Massive Spanner said:
I love Ole and I want him to still be associated with the club in a positive way but it’s a really weird thing for the club to release a farewell interview after sacking a manager who wasn’t up to the task. Like seriously, really weird. It just feels wrong.
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He probably just wanted goodbye, I doubt it the club forcing him to do it.
 
LJJT said:
Class interview. A class bloke, he hasn’t deserved all the childish shite he’s been given especially online. He has without doubt left us in a better position on and off the pitch.
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How are we better on and off the pitch? He picked favorites and alienated bench players, stuck to his guns on keeping coaches over from the previous failed management and paid for it with his eventual and very predictable dismissal.
We're playing worse football with a better squad than the one he inherited.

Solskjaer has left us 12 points off the top in week 12. In week 12 of 2018/19 under Mourinho we were also 12 points off the top, also had a negative goal difference but we managed 3 points more than we have now.

So even statistically Solskjaer has had a worse start this season than Mourinho's miserable final season. Our defensive record under him has been worse than it was under Mourinho despite throwing money at Maguire and convincing many that we finally had a true leader at the back. He couldn't even win a single piece of silverware with this squad

So please tell me how we're better on and off the pitch
 
United in sin said:
How are we better on and off the pitch? He picked favorites and alienated bench players, stuck to his guns on keeping coaches over from the previous failed management and paid for it with his eventual and very predictable dismissal.
We're playing worse football with a better squad than the one he inherited.

Solskjaer has left us 12 points off the top in week 12. In week 12 of 2018/19 under Mourinho we were also 12 points off the top, also had a negative goal difference but we managed 3 points more than we have now.

So even statistically Solskjaer has had a worse start this season than Mourinho's miserable final season. Our defensive record under him has been worse than it was under Mourinho despite throwing money at Maguire and convincing many that we finally had a true leader at the back. He couldn't even win a single piece of silverware with this squad

So please tell me how we're better on and off the pitch
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The squad is far far better, off the field we are far far better. Couldnt care less for your Jose comparisons that guy was an absolute drain on us financially and mentally. He took us to a dark dead end. There’s no huge rebuild required now. Just need to get the right man in to take us forward. We’ve every reason to be optimistic and don’t need to wait 6 transfer windows to get the squad anything like how it should be. If you don’t agree with that, then that’s up to you but personally think we are miles better off.
 
What undid Ole the most was that we stopped getting a load of penalties to bail us out. Only 1 pen this season which we missed compared to 18 and 22 the respective seasons
 
This decision was way too overdue for me to celebrate in any meaningful way

I would've even given to the "he left us in a better position" argument if we weren't so abject in the last few weeks destroying the morale in this club, which was going to happen at some point or another

He was too stubborn to realize the errors of his ways (e.g. grilling van persie over his criticism of him) and in the end it has predictably come back to haunt him

But there's no use complaining about what happened in the past. Need to set our eyes on getting a competent manager in the future
 
Pep Guardiola on Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's sacking
"I wish him all the best. It was a pleasure to play [against] him. He beat me more than I wanted..."
"He knows, like I know, when you're in charge of a team like United, Man City, Chelsea, Tottenham, Liverpool, you have to win. I'm still here because I won. Otherwise, it'd be another person here. Hopefully one day we can see each other again."
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Pretty classy from Pep there tbh.

Pretty funny how he mentioned Spurs and not Arsenal in those list of clubs :lol:
 
Sultan said:
You don't make managerial decisions on short term results. It's the progression of on-filed performances over a longer period of time. Even if the Watford result was positive it was quite obvious the team needed a change of direction. Fans in my opinion are getting this wrong wishing negative results. Obviously, the board needs to be proactive and should not have let this get this bad before acting.
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I think we did though mate. The board went from trying to avoid the sacking at all costs to firing him in a matter of hours.
 
JPRouve said:
Ole is a club legend, he will be around the club in the future for events or maybe even as an ambassador. I think that it's a great thing to not treat him like everyone else and recognize that it's just the end of one journey and the beginning of an other. Personally I have no hard feelings toward him and will be glad to see him around United again. Not as a manager though!
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Yep, he should have an ambassadorial role for life.
 
LJJT said:
The squad is far far better, off the field we are far far better. Couldnt care less for your Jose comparisons that guy was an absolute drain on us financially and mentally. He took us to a dark dead end. There’s no huge rebuild required now. Just need to get the right man in to take us forward. We’ve every reason to be optimistic and don’t need to wait 6 transfer windows to get the squad anything like how it should be. If you don’t agree with that, then that’s up to you but personally think we are miles better off.
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Agree totally
 
alexthelion said:
Wow! What a load of shit this post is :mad:
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Go cry about it. All this sanctimonious nonsense now is nauseating.

He had no business being Utd manager in the first place, and only ever got the job based on how inept we are run.

At any properly run club he would have been sacked three times over by now. So he done well out of us really.
 
Ronaldo hasn’t posted anything about Ole on his socials & he seems to be the only senior player (alongside Cavani?) not to do one yet…
 
That_Bloke said:
It's not like the board has a choice and Carrick is the only option right now. You just can't sack the whole coaching staff when you don't already have a replacement aligned.

Now how they did get into this mess is for everyone to see. Ole should've gone in the summer, after the EL final and especially after all the marquee signings (C. Ronaldo in particular). You have are big, ambitious players, used to win big trophies and they won't take average results or pastings like Liverpool very well. They won't put up very long with an inexperienced, rudderless coaching team that seems to play the same batch of players, regardless of their form or the opposition and without any real plan. At a certain moment, they'll stop to believe in the manager and play for him even if they like him, and I think that's what happened. Anyone who played in a club, and it doesn't need to be a high level, knows that when the doubt sets up, the results don't follow and you'll start to lose the dressing room. Players won't turn on you off the bat, but they'll start gradually to question your decisions and then stop giving you 100%. Which will bring even more bad results. It's a vicious circle and what happened yesterday is the culmination of what was brewing since September.

Your board has to take full blame for hanging onto OGS until the very last moment, tolerating the actual shit-show and never planning for the long-term. They panic sacked him, that's why Carrick is now in charge and that means the season's gone if they can't find a capable manager very soon. It's a real pity because while imperfect you currently have a great squad, capable of achieving something, especially if you get a DM. Who knows who you're going to lose in the summer if you don't reach top 4 at the end of the season? C. Ronaldo will also be a year older in the next one.

A long as you don't have a competent DoF and the owners really willing to acknowledge your club's footballing dimension, then you're never going to really achieve what your club should be capable of.
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I never thought I’d find myself defending the Glazers. But you can’t have it every way. Ole was popular with the fan base. Once he went on his run(s), hubris and nostalgia and simply optimism set in. Rio and G Nev weren’t alone. Most of the Caf were delighted too. As was I. Both appointment and extension were popular moves.

I know you are saying he should have gone sooner. But there was that narrative: ‘give him time’. SAF needed four years or whatever, there was a gradual points/league position improvement. And he’s apparently a really sound, genuine guy. I have long had doubts, but I’d say the hesitation was understandable. Maybe the great and good in the club were asking for a grace period.

I’d put some blame at Woodward’s door. Joel knows he knows feck all about football. But the other clown thinks he’s an expert. Hence marquee signings, not supporting managers, etc.

You can accuse them of many things. Taking money from the club. Keeping football people/fans off board. Overly commercial boardroom setup at expense of football (as you say). . . Not fixing stadium. Keeping on Woodie, would all be problems caused by owners.
But OGS? We all have to shoulder some of the praise and blame for that one.
 
passtheball said:
Terrible decision of looking to appoint only an interim to the end of the season.

We needed a permanent manager now who would decide on the summer in-comings (and also convince Ronaldo and Pogba to stay). This is basically throwing this season away + damaging the 22/23 one.

What a stupid club.
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What? I'd rather we took our time and get a world class manager. There's nothing stupid about that at all.
 
Ole will always be a United legend. He loves the club and what a player he was for us. Sadly, it all went wrong this season and he should have been sacked weeks ago. Today had to happen. Let's remember he finished third and second in the league and also reached the Europa final, but this season has turned into a car crash after starting with such high hopes. By the end he didn't know what to do for the best; nothing he tried worked. We all wanted it to work out for Ole, but there was no recovering from the past few weeks. He gave it his best shot, which is all anyone can do.

Some of the abuse he received was unnecessary. It wasn't his job to resign, that's on the board.

By all accounts you couldn't wish to meet a nicer guy than Ole. I hope he resurrects his career like Moyes has done. Don't be a stranger Ole.

By the way, all his assistants should have gone with him; we needed a complete cleaning of house. As usual our board are clueless.
 
UnitedSofa said:
Ronaldo hasn’t posted anything about Ole on his socials & he seems to be the only senior player (alongside Cavani?) not to do one yet…
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They are winners and not part of nostalgia FC.

Don't worry though, their PR teams will get to it soon enough, if they haven't already.
 
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