Occasions where the clueless fans were spectacularly right

Oscar Bonavena

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First things' first, this is NOT an Erik bashing thread (although fill your boots if that's what you want!)

But seeing the outstanding recent form of Amad following his reintroduction to the first team, it surely vindicates the majority of fans who've been calling for him to start regularly, and makes a fool of Ten Hag who had him as probably 4th choice wide player (behind Antony FFS!)

In United's history, have there been any other occasions where the stupid, know-nothing fans have been proven to be so humongously right about something, and the manager completely wrong?
 
Oscar Bonavena said:
First things' first, this is NOT an Erik bashing thread (although fill your boots if that's what you want!)

But seeing the outstanding recent form of Amad following his reintroduction to the first team, it surely vindicates the majority of fans who've been calling for him to start regularly, and makes a fool of Ten Hag who had him as probably 4th choice wide player (behind Antony FFS!)

In United's history, have there been any other occasions where the stupid, know-nothing fans have been proven to be so humongously right about something, and the manager completely wrong?
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Hell of a statement to put in a threat which features the words “spectacularly right” in the title.
 
Is this I told you so thread?

In which we will come to the conclusion that OP was right about many, many things?

Humongously right at that.
 
3 games isn't a spectacular run in my book though long may it be extended!
 
Oscar Bonavena said:
But seeing the outstanding recent form of Amad following his reintroduction to the first team, it surely vindicates the majority of fans who've been calling for him to start regularly, and makes a fool of Ten Hag who had him as probably 4th choice wide player (behind Antony FFS!)
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Didn't he start most games at the start of the season? Whereas Antony has spent most season the bench.
 
Amad played early season and wasn’t great, he’s now had more games and done broadly ok. Very good versus PAOK or whoever they are but let’s wait at least a little before declaring ourselves ‘spectacularly’ right.
 
The Boy said:
Didn't he start most games at the start of the season? Whereas Antony has spent most season the bench.
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He got a few starts at the start of the season. Scored against Brighton, had the most chance creations in a game of any United player in donkeys years in the game versus Southampton, got United player of the month for August, was rewarded for that by being dropped for the Liverpool game. Was brought on at 3-0 down but in the short time he was on the pitch still managed to get more touches in the opposition box than any other United player in the game. Was put in the Bermuda Triangle again after that game and was very much 4th in the pecking order by the Porto game, where Ten Hag only brought him on because Antony got injured.

The lad has to shoot the lights out in every game just to keep his place in the team, he wasn't even given the luxury of having a "quiet" game, whereas other players had license to stink the joint out week after week and keep their place in the team.

Most knowledgeable fans could see that this guy is arguably our best wide attacker (some might prefer Garnacho), yet he was criminally under used by Ten Hag. How can a supposed "top class" manager not see this but dumb ass fans can?
 
In general, fans are more often right about players, particularly young ones, failing to make the grade - basically because most players never become good enough to play for a top team.

At United, we're usually spectacularly right about not wanting to renew the contracts of the injury prone on the grounds they seldom do get less injury prone. That's because we're both indifferent to the players as people/colleagues and we don't care about missing out on resale value.
 
quiet_united said:
None of us wanted Mount and clearly see it is a bad move
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This is probably the best example. Everyone was asking what is the point at the time, and the same questions still ring true now.

Usually it's the other way around though, everyone wants a signing, and when they turn up they are crap.
 
Every single fan who has reservations about a signing gets called clueless. Yet if you predicted every signing in the last 10 years would be absolutely shite you’d have an amazing hit rate.
 
quiet_united said:
None of us wanted Mount and clearly see it is a bad move
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Yes that's a good example. Clueless fans questioned paying so much for a player with only one year left on his contract, with a bad injury record, and with no obvious place in the starting line up.

But no, Erik and the club knew best.
 
quiet_united said:
None of us wanted Mount and clearly see it is a bad move
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No better example. Everyone, but a few of the 'experts' on here, was wondering what's the point of that signing, especially because it seemed like such a priority. Even when fit he isn't particularly impactful. Who knows, maybe he could find a place in Amorim's presumed system, if he manages to stay fit for more than 2 games. I very much doubt it and expect him to be moved on in the summer, alongside Antony. But yeah, an unsurprisingly terrible transfer.
 
Everyone knew Mount was bullshit for us. Ten Hag fecked it with the Antony and Mount signings.
 
Getting rid of all the backroom staff and bringing in his useless yes men from Everton was a great idea from Moyes that literally everyone else on the planet thought it was beyond the realms of idiocy let alone us fans.
 
quiet_united said:
None of us wanted Mount and clearly see it is a bad move
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Bad move in terms of injury.

Mount hasn't had a proper chance to prove his worth. Comparing him to Antony, who has repeatedly failed since a decent first season, is lazy.
 
I was right about something. Now I cant remember specifically what it was but I think I was right. Right ?
 
90% of transfers in the last 10 years? I understand being glass half full, but many transfers were outrageous on paper and people just buried their heads in the sand.

The transfer forum pessimists have probably been the most accurate posters
 
Playing two in midfield against Barca's three meaning we're completely overloaded and outplayed?

Especially when that two had a 38 year old Giggs in it.
 
Crostien said:
Bad move in terms of injury.

Mount hasn't had a proper chance to prove his worth. Comparing him to Antony, who has repeatedly failed since a decent first season, is lazy.
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When did I compare him to Antony?
If anything, most fans were excited with Antony at the time so he is not a great example of this thread. However most of us just couldn’t see the point of signing Mount and we still can’t! Especially the status of our squad when we signed him.
 
I was one of the few United fans who was adamant that we shouldn't sign Lukaku. I didn't think he had the tools required to be a starting striker for a club that had ambitions to win the PL. When everyone throws impressive stats at you and all you have as a counter argument is the 'eye test' then you look a bit clueless. But hey, at least Chelsea had their fingers burned worse than we did a few years later.
 
This just screams of "someone was rude to me ages ago about something I said and I couldn't let it go."

My advice; let it go.
 
With mount though, it wasn’t even a question of not wanting him because of his talent as a player, his profile just made absolutely 0 sense and we could all see it at the time.
 
Generally speaking, over the past decade, I reckon fan consensus on things like managers, transfers, tactics, sackings etc etc have been far more on the money then the actual decisions that the club has actually made.

From as far back as hiring Moyes all the way through to not sacking ETH in the summer I doubt there are many occasions where the club has gone against general opinion and been proven right to do so. I’m sure there are some occasions, but I doubt there’s many.

Previous to that, Fergie was always proving us wrong and making us look like idiots for doubting him.
 
Fellaini. I liked the guy overall and thought he had a decent career but the certainty that he was coming (in lieu of a Javi Martinez type, who we actually could've used) and then him being firmly mediocre and signaling our descent into mediocrity was like the knowledge that the sun would rise in the east.
 
Wasn't there a guy that said Ronaldo would flop badly and got a lot of stick for having that opinion? Most of us (me included) got caught up in the nostalgia and blinded by the goals. I still honestly don't think he was even the main problem with Ole's team, but it did speed up that team's and Ole's inevitable fall.
 
IRELANDUNITED said:
When I see the term “clueless fans” the first team that comes to mind is always Liverpool.
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City's for me, do they really think they got where they are playing by the rules?

At least Liverpool do have some real history to back up their cluelessness
 
Mourinho - it was always going to end like it did and most of us knew it
 
I remember people in 2013 saying that hiring David Moyes was going to be a catastrophic move, and that it would bring about our downfall.
 
Ralf Rangnick should have been kept as a DOF or a consultancy role at least.

But fans were blinded with hate due to our losing streak that they wanted him gone immediately, although he was just an interim manager. It wasn’t even a role he was famous for.
 
Sir Erik ten Hag said:
Ralf Rangnick should have been kept as a DOF or a consultancy role at least.

But fans were blinded with hate due to our losing streak that they wanted him gone immediately, although he was just an interim manager. It wasn’t even a role he was famous for.
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I never saw his role as manager to be really about managing the team, and trying to get better results.

I always saw it as getting someone who had experience as a DoF to come and take a really close look at the club, and try to see what the hell was going wrong all the time.
 
I remembered that I said we would go at least a decade without winning the EPL title again post Sir Alex's retirement and was told to do one by almost everyone here.
 
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