To be fair, outside of Linfield and maybe Glentoran where are you going to get trouble from?
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To be fair, outside of Linfield and maybe Glentoran where are you going to get trouble from?
The return in windsor park should be fun
It's enough though to put a kabosch on the whole thing.
The league would be stronger and more competitive, but the NI teams are falling way behind in recent years and that trend will only continue as things are.
ballyclare, coleraine, ballymena, portadown.....etc
meh portadown maybe, what sorta crowds the others pull?
Not sure about Ballyclare, but Ballymena and Coleraine to a smaller extent get decent crowds.
Still think an all ireland league is doable but I suppose not to those who look for any excuse to deny an all ireland entity from happening.
It would be doable, especially seeing as Derry play in the Airtricity league, but Donegal play up North.
Finn Harps play down south no? Donegal Celtic up north.
Donegal Celtic are based in Belfast
I didn't know that Gaz, thanks
Don't spink so Jake.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/s...trike-ends-with-an-indian-curry-29121911.html
"Union flag protest leader Jamie ‘Biryani' Bryson's much-heralded hunger-strike lasted less than half a day. The baby-faced loyalist asked cops at Belfast's Musgrave PSNI station to get him an Indian takeaway after his arrest in Bangor last week."
Guess I was wrong about the two days after all. He couldn't even make it past dinner, the fool.
"Union flag protest leader Jamie ‘Biryani' Bryson's much-heralded hunger-strike lasted less than half a day. The baby-faced loyalist asked cops at Belfast's Musgrave PSNI station to get him an Indian takeaway after his arrest in Bangor last week."
Guess I was wrong about the two days after all. He couldn't even make it past dinner, the fool.
I'd be surprised if he was able to get an Indian take-away (is there any Indian restaurants left?), given that his loyalist asian-hatin ilk have been striving to fire bomb them out of Norn Iron for feck knows how many years!
welcome back rhd
A hunger strike is not courageous!
It doesn't require courage to go on hunger strike? that's absolute nonsense.
Thanks dude, its been a while alright. I see not much has changed on here, which is exactly the way it should be, so all is good
A hunger strike is not courageous!
Its just a pretty serious diet in most countries!
In Norn Iron its been quite popular over the years, but after a while of food deprivation yer Ma comes along & gives ya a slap around the loaf with a burger - "wise up & get that into ya son for goodness sake.."
Thats how the Norn Iron hunger strike works - the Ma rules!
People here are fat as feck now, there should be more of them on hunger strike.
A hunger strike is not courageous!
You are a plank if you really believe that. You may not agree with it and you may not agree with what the hunger strikes here have traditionally stood for but surely you must agree that it takes amazing belief that one is right in what they are doing and courage of convictions to carry it though.
I just think it is daft and hardly courageous. I mean prisoners have done this over the years and it achieves nothing. No prison is going to give in to demands made by any prisoner as it sets a precedent which cannot be allowed to be made.
I find it even more stupid that people in this thread are point scoring by saying "ah they can't do a proper hunger strike as they aren't courageous enough"
Utter utter bollocks.
That 'can't do' post wasn't point scoring. That lad is just a douche bag who couldn't keep the promises his big old mouth was making. No-one in here would be offended by calling him a fecking twat.
How can you say that hunger striking didn't achieve anything. Peaceful protest has achieved a hell of a lot, and as horrible as a hunger strike is it only effects the participants and surely that's a better way to make your point than violence.
How can you say that hunger striking didn't achieve anything. Peaceful protest has achieved a hell of a lot, and as horrible as a hunger strike is it only effects the participants and surely that's a better way to make your point than violence.
Educate yourself before you make stupid posts TR.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Irish_hunger_strike
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Irish_hunger_strike
You can't blame a copper for this type of uneducated post, IWTK. They are conditioned to hate anything that is even remotely connected to terrorism and that's as it should be.
Oh, and backpackers, they hate backpackers too. Especially Brazilian ones.
Oh, and backpackers, they hate backpackers too. Especially Brazilian ones.
Irish Republicans are not the only people to carry out hunger strikes. It's been a peaceful tool of protest for many groups and individuals.
Even if it was stupid, hunger strikes take bravery
Yep Donegal Pass
thats Donegall Pass.
theyre called Donegal Celtic because the streets/areas where it was formed were named after places in Donegal...nothing to with Donegall.
Not if you start out a fatty
Hey I killed a spider before.
Now that is courageous
Now that is courageous
Are you on drugs dude?
British government apologises over shooting of disabled man
The British government has apologised after the shooting of a disabled farm worker who ran away from soldiers almost 40 years ago in Northern Ireland.
John Pat Cunningham (27) had a mental age of less than 10 and a great fear of men in uniforms. He was unarmed when shot dead by soldiers from the Life Guard Regiment near his home in Benburb, Co Armagh.
Two soldiers suspected of the killing have refused to give an account.
The Historical Enquiries Team (HET), independent detectives investigating all conflict murders, said there were no grounds for their rearrest and no new lines of enquiry - a view disputed by his family.
Mr Cunningham’s nephew Charlie Agnew said: “John Pat may have been disabled but he was a human being with exactly the same rights as anyone else.
“The question must be asked: did the British Army consider John Pat ‘disposable’?”
The victim was walking home from the Servite Priory, where he helped out, in June 1974, along the Carrickaness Road when he was approached by a military patrol.
It had been deployed on follow-up operations after a different patrol was involved in a shooting incident with IRA gunmen two days previously.
A GP had already made representations to the Army about Mr Cunningham‘s fear of men in uniform.
Mr Cunningham appeared startled by the soldiers, jumped into a field and began to run for home pursued by two servicemen shouting commands for him to stop.
Evidence from another soldier, Soldier E, suggested he believed the man may have been armed, the HET report said.
Two troops then fired five shots and the victim died where he fell. It was not possible to determine who fired the fatal shot. The cause of death was recorded as bullet wound to the trunk, the HET added.
Soldiers A and B were interviewed briefly by the Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) under caution and exercised their right to silence. The Director for Public Prosecutions (DPP) decided against criminal proceedings.
The HET concluded that, because of the absence of original case papers, it was not possible to establish whether the investigation into the death was independent.
Its report added: “HET also concluded that by not obtaining the soldier’s (sic) account of what happened more vigorously, the investigation was not as thorough or effective as it could have been.”
It said interviewing soldiers A and B represented the only realistic lines of enquiry. HET requested interviews, but both declined - one after seeking legal advice.
The HET said: “They have both chosen not to engage and there are no grounds to arrest and further interview them under caution. There are therefore no new lines of enquiry to progress the investigation into John Pat’s death.”
The Team said his death was a tragedy which should not have happened.
“He was a vulnerable adult who was unarmed and shot as he was running away from soldiers. There is no evidence that he posed a threat to the soldiers or anyone else.”
It said the soldiers’ decision not to cooperate meant the full facts had never been established.
Andrew Robathan, minister for the armed forces, said it was right and proper to make an apology on behalf of Government.
“I do not believe that anything I can say will ease the sorrow you feel for the death of a much-loved relative, but I hope that the findings of the HET and our full and sincere apology will be of value by setting the record straight on these tragic events,” he told relatives.
Mr Agnew said the soldiers had never been compelled to account for themselves.
“He was a completely innocent man who did not deserve to die,” he said.
“In our opinion those who murdered him disgraced themselves, their uniform and the state in whose name they bear arms.”
Family solicitor Kevin Winters has written to Attorney General John Larkin QC asking for a fresh inquiry, has sought a new compensation settlement after £750 was granted originally, and asked PSNI chief constable Matt Baggott to make the soldiers accountable.
The British government has apologised after the shooting of a disabled farm worker who ran away from soldiers almost 40 years ago in Northern Ireland.
John Pat Cunningham (27) had a mental age of less than 10 and a great fear of men in uniforms. He was unarmed when shot dead by soldiers from the Life Guard Regiment near his home in Benburb, Co Armagh.
Two soldiers suspected of the killing have refused to give an account.
The Historical Enquiries Team (HET), independent detectives investigating all conflict murders, said there were no grounds for their rearrest and no new lines of enquiry - a view disputed by his family.
Mr Cunningham’s nephew Charlie Agnew said: “John Pat may have been disabled but he was a human being with exactly the same rights as anyone else.
“The question must be asked: did the British Army consider John Pat ‘disposable’?”
The victim was walking home from the Servite Priory, where he helped out, in June 1974, along the Carrickaness Road when he was approached by a military patrol.
It had been deployed on follow-up operations after a different patrol was involved in a shooting incident with IRA gunmen two days previously.
A GP had already made representations to the Army about Mr Cunningham‘s fear of men in uniform.
Mr Cunningham appeared startled by the soldiers, jumped into a field and began to run for home pursued by two servicemen shouting commands for him to stop.
Evidence from another soldier, Soldier E, suggested he believed the man may have been armed, the HET report said.
Two troops then fired five shots and the victim died where he fell. It was not possible to determine who fired the fatal shot. The cause of death was recorded as bullet wound to the trunk, the HET added.
Soldiers A and B were interviewed briefly by the Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) under caution and exercised their right to silence. The Director for Public Prosecutions (DPP) decided against criminal proceedings.
The HET concluded that, because of the absence of original case papers, it was not possible to establish whether the investigation into the death was independent.
Its report added: “HET also concluded that by not obtaining the soldier’s (sic) account of what happened more vigorously, the investigation was not as thorough or effective as it could have been.”
It said interviewing soldiers A and B represented the only realistic lines of enquiry. HET requested interviews, but both declined - one after seeking legal advice.
The HET said: “They have both chosen not to engage and there are no grounds to arrest and further interview them under caution. There are therefore no new lines of enquiry to progress the investigation into John Pat’s death.”
The Team said his death was a tragedy which should not have happened.
“He was a vulnerable adult who was unarmed and shot as he was running away from soldiers. There is no evidence that he posed a threat to the soldiers or anyone else.”
It said the soldiers’ decision not to cooperate meant the full facts had never been established.
Andrew Robathan, minister for the armed forces, said it was right and proper to make an apology on behalf of Government.
“I do not believe that anything I can say will ease the sorrow you feel for the death of a much-loved relative, but I hope that the findings of the HET and our full and sincere apology will be of value by setting the record straight on these tragic events,” he told relatives.
Mr Agnew said the soldiers had never been compelled to account for themselves.
“He was a completely innocent man who did not deserve to die,” he said.
“In our opinion those who murdered him disgraced themselves, their uniform and the state in whose name they bear arms.”
Family solicitor Kevin Winters has written to Attorney General John Larkin QC asking for a fresh inquiry, has sought a new compensation settlement after £750 was granted originally, and asked PSNI chief constable Matt Baggott to make the soldiers accountable.