Nordic Ghost Yeti (Scandi Carroll) | Haaland at City

It’s also a chance it happens after next season if RM becomes desperate about replacing Benzema.
The information I have is that there is an exit clause in Haaland's second contract year, and the strange thing is that there are very favorable conditions for one club. which is Real Madrid, says Fernando Sanz according to Marca.:eek:
 
The information I have is that there is an exit clause in Haaland's second contract year, and the strange thing is that there are very favorable conditions for one club. which is Real Madrid, says Fernando Sanz according to Marca.:eek:

Somehow it is hard to believe City would accept to let Haaland leave easily after only two years.
 
He’s a great player and will break all sorts of records I’m sure but I don’t think he’s any different to other great forwards in the past. Imagine Van Nistelrooy or Henry for example playing now for this City team in an era where defending has seemingly taken a nose dive of a cliff and it’s all just about open expansive football.
 
He’s a great player and will break all sorts of records I’m sure but I don’t think he’s any different to other great forwards in the past. Imagine Van Nistelrooy or Henry for example playing now for this City team in an era where defending has seemingly taken a nose dive of a cliff and it’s all just about open expansive football.

Don't people on here often say that Arsenal invincibles and the United team RVN played in were better than current City.
 
Don't people on here often say that Arsenal invincibles and the United team RVN played in were better than current City.
They were great teams in their own right but right now this city side is above them in terms of how football is played nowadays I think. It’s just so easy for them 95% of the time.
 
Don't people on here often say that Arsenal invincibles and the United team RVN played in were better than current City.

Different times when defenders were defenders, teams were tactically more cautious, grounds were not as easy to play at and refs were a lot more lenient with fouls
 
He’s a great player and will break all sorts of records I’m sure but I don’t think he’s any different to other great forwards in the past. Imagine Van Nistelrooy or Henry for example playing now for this City team in an era where defending has seemingly taken a nose dive of a cliff and it’s all just about open expansive football.
No one has ever done what Haaland is doing at City before, so the mental gymnastics to try to make what he's doing less impressive is just silly.

Do you rate a guy like Aguero? He played 10 seasons in this team and maxed on 26 league goals in a single season.
Henry for Arsenal: 0,67 goals/90
RVN for United: 0,76 goals/90
Haaland for City: 1,67 goals/90
RVN and Henry had multiple seasons in dominating teams creating tons of chances for them and they were never even a little close to this level of goalscoring. United and Arsenal had 130 goals seasons with peak RVN and Henry in them. Haaland needs 11 goals in the next 30 PL games to top RVN best PL season in goals and he's already equalled his best PL season in assists. Henry had 31 goals to his name over 5 seasons (140 games) in France and Italy when he was Haalands age and came to Arsenal, while Haaland has 132 goals since the start of the 19/20 season in just 122 games for Salzburg, Dormund and City.
To put this in a little more perspective: Messi and Ronaldo both played for superdominant teams that scored 95-130 goals in the league and 130-180 goals total every season they played there. In Messi's record 11/12 season (73 goals in all comps for Barca) Barcelona scored 180 goals! City scored 148 last season. So far this season Haaland's been scoring 0,42 goals more per 90 minutes than Messi did that season (1,67 vs. 1,26 G/90). That means, if Haaland plays the same amount of minutes for City this season as Messi did in 11/12 and keeps up this scoringrate, he'll score 97 goals for City this season. 23 PL goals won you the golden boot last 3 seasons. The season before that you needed 22 goals to win it. Haaland has 14 goals now in his first 8 games in this league.....That's the level he's performing at right now. If you imagine RVN or Henry would do the same, I guess you are more creative than me.

Just find peace with the fact that we are witnessing something very special and hate/enjoy the ride. Pains me as a Man United fan, but as a football fan it's hard not to get exited by watching him play.
 
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Don't people on here often say that Arsenal invincibles and the United team RVN played in were better than current City.
I actually think City a few years ago were a better team than the current one. The current team has a freak in the team.

Zabaleta, Kompany, Fernandinho, KDB, David Silva, Sane, Aguero, Sterling was a hell of a team.
 
Baldy, the voice of reason. :lol:

Pep Guardiola:"The difference, Erling needs maybe all his mates, you know to do it. Messi had the ability for himself to do it."
 
No one has ever done what Haaland is doing at City before, so the mental gymnastics to try to make what he's doing less impressive is just silly.
No one has ever done what city did before, period. You are starting to sound like a fanboy, gushing over him when the season has barely started.
 
No one has ever done what city did before, period. You are starting to sound like a fanboy, gushing over him when the season has barely started.

You sound bitter. The fact is Haaland is destroying the EPL, 17 goals in 11 games and is on course to shatter Man City's legendary striker Aguero's record by the time the WC comes around.
 
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Haha I have no issue with how good he is or what he’s doing now and will probably do I just don’t think he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.

@troylocker
 
You sound bitter. The fact is Haaland is destroying the EPL, 17 goals in 11 games and is on course to shatter Man City's legendary striker Aguero's record by the time the WC comes around.
Yeah he's great. Calm down.
 
But conquering every league boils down to wanting to challenge yourself and also create a legacy. He will want to play for historical great clubs. City don’t have a global appeal and likely never will. Winning the league every year with them ultimately means nothing.
In the end it is the number of trophies, record, and personal honors counts when a footballer retires. Every club starts from somewhere so I am not sure if City never be a global appeal, and I don't believe playing for a "historical great clubs" such as Notthingham Forest, Aston Villa, or Everton means anything. Winning the league every year with Man City to me has the same meaning as winning with Real Madrid. A league title in the end, is a league title. Also City's salary and transfer net spend is not bigger than Man Utd.

Haaland's camp has been saying he wants to try all the top leagues in Europe. So after EPL then Li Liga is the next logical destination. Only Real Madrid and Barcelona can provide the service and support that Haaland needs in the field.
 
He's too good :(

I guess that's how the other teams in Spain felt when the big two had Messi and Ronaldo at the same time.
 
I thought no one could surpass Messi and Ronaldo. Haaland looks like he is on another level and will go on to break all the records in world football. He is so scary to play against, basically unplayable.
 
No one has ever done what city did before, period. You are starting to sound like a fanboy, gushing over him when the season has barely started.
City's been doing it for more than 5 years now and Liverpools been up there a couple of them as well. Real Madrid and Barca did it for a decade or more. PSG and Bayern are doing it in weaker leagues.
He didn't start playing football in August.

I was a 6'3'' striker my entire football career myself, and I must admit I have never seen a better pure striker than him the 40+ years I've been watching football, so yeah! I'm very fascinated to say the least. I knew he was special as soon as I saw him singlehandedly destroy Brann for Molde (scored 4 in 21 minutes) when he was 17. I didn't think he was gonna become this good then, but when he exploded at Salzburg there was no doubt. I've never seen a striker move like him, dominate defenders so physically and produce this kind of endproduct, and he's so young. Quite unique. R9 did the same to me back in the mid/late 90s, but they were quite different players besides being physical aliens. R9 was more complete, but Haaland is even more deadly. I would choose Haaland over any other striker in the world to lead our line any day of the week.
I've been a Man United fan all my life, but I can still enjoy watching great football and great players from other teams as well. I've loved watching players like Platini, Maradona, Van Basten, Romario, R9, Zidane, Ronaldinho, Messi and Cristiano through the years. This guy will be up there or above when he puts his boot up on the shelf. The perfect wrecking ball of a striker.
 
City's been doing it for more than 5 years now and Liverpools been up there a couple of them as well. Real Madrid and Barca did it for a decade or more. PSG and Bayern are doing it in weaker leagues.
He didn't start playing football in August.

I was a 6'3'' striker my entire football career myself, and I must admit I have never seen a better pure striker than him the 40+ years I've been watching football, so yeah! I'm very fascinated to say the least. I knew he was special as soon as I saw him singlehandedly destroy Brann for Molde (scored 4 in 21 minutes) when he was 17. I didn't think he was gonna become this good then, but when he exploded at Salzburg there was no doubt. I've never seen a striker move like him, dominate defenders so physically and produce this kind of endproduct, and he's so young. Quite unique. R9 did the same to me back in the mid/late 90s, but they were quite different players besides being physical aliens. R9 was more complete, but Haaland is even more deadly. I would choose Haaland over any other striker in the world to lead our line any day of the week.
I've been a Man United fan all my life, but I can still enjoy watching great football and great players from other teams as well. I've loved watching players like Platini, Maradona, Van Basten, Romario, R9, Zidane, Ronaldinho, Messi and Cristiano through the years. This guy will be up there or above when he puts his boot up on the shelf. The perfect wrecking ball of a striker.
Yeah i remember that, and felt something similar. I remember that he still moved really awkwardly at that age, but even then there was talk that if he ever grew into his body and gain full control of it, he could be deadly. Personally I have no problems with anyone threatening messi ronaldo lewa aguero records, records are meant to be broken anyway. Thing is, city are very well run and pep has them setup like prime barca. Liverpool was great for two maybe the years but city are a machine. Best environment for him to succeed, and worse for everyone else obviously.
 
Everything about City is hollow. It’s a soulless and plastic club. Their success means nothing. The Haalands are well aware of this and no wonder they are already thinking about the next step.
Very true but how do we go forward if we’re to catch them? Get similar owners which many fans would disagree on. The way things stand City are going to dominate for years and do what we did with the class of 92. That would be my worse nightmare.
 
I actually think City a few years ago were a better team than the current one. The current team has a freak in the team.

Zabaleta, Kompany, Fernandinho, KDB, David Silva, Sane, Aguero, Sterling was a hell of a team.

Me too, I'm always argue our best team was the one with ederson, walker, kompany/otamendi laporte and zinchenko/delph in defence, fernandinho, kdb and David Silva in midfield with sterling, Sane and Kun up top. Mostly cause of the midfield and frightening pace.
 
Maybe, and that’s why when he moved to Dortmund I didn’t agree with those who said “we should not sign players with release clauses”, because 2-3 years is a long time in football and players might actually decide to stay and extend their contracts.

But conquering every league boils down to wanting to challenge yourself and also create a legacy. He will want to play for historical great clubs. City don’t have a global appeal and likely never will. Winning the league every year with them ultimately means nothing.

Yeah this is the point that Utd's recruitment people clearly seemed to have missed and now we are having to see him make us suffer every single week in the Premier League, sometimes principles and we are too good for release clauses thinking needs to straight out of the window because some players are special cases.
 
Don't people on here often say that Arsenal invincibles and the United team RVN played in were better than current City.

Almost no one on here has ever said that about the teams RvN played in, I can assure you of that! It’s widely accepted that Ruud played for us during our not too successful bridge between the 1999 team and the 2006 team.
 
Pep’s contract ends after this season, and I think he leaves if City wins both PL and CL. I assume Haaland’s plan is to stay 3y before he moves on to RM or Barca and replace Lew or Benzema. It’s also a chance it happens after next season if RM becomes desperate about replacing Benzema.

Yeah FFS Guardiola leave this league in the summer and Real please make that need to replace Benzema more urgent
 
Just realised he’s only 9 goals away from the premier league golden boot tally from last year.

He’s currently got more goals than the 2nd and 3rd leading scorers in the league put together (Kane & Mitrovic) :lol:
 
It's hard to know what kind of a player he would be now if he went here from Molde though. Somehow I doubt Mourinho and Ole would give him the same amount of minutes he got in Austria and Germany. I think Haaland and his team has managed his career to perfection for his development so far to be fair. Story would probably be very different if he came here at 18.
Still hurts that we didn't get him from Salzburg though.
You'd absolutely have ruined him.

No offense but since SAF left, none of your managers has ever improved any of your players. If any, they go downhill as soon as they play for you. Ten Hag might very well be the (very) first decent one in this matter.
 
Stop spamming my notifications. He hasn't done shit yet. Any decent striker (including Nunez) would feast in that team. Give Alvarez more gametime and he would score tons of goals too.

If Haaland shows up in the CL knockouts and helps them win the whole thing, I'll give him some credit.
Trolling got a bit obvious. I'm sure you could do a bit better.
 
You'd absolutely have ruined him.

No offense but since SAF left, none of your managers has ever improved any of your players. If any, they go downhill as soon as they play for you. Ten Hag might very well be the (very) first decent one in this matter.

Well hoping these beatings we have taken are a bit like the 4-2 at Leicester and 4-0 at Everton in Guardiola's first season while he tried to change their style from Pellegrini to his.
 
Stop spamming my notifications. He hasn't done shit yet. Any decent striker (including Nunez) would feast in that team. Give Alvarez more gametime and he would score tons of goals too.

If Haaland shows up in the CL knockouts and helps them win the whole thing, I'll give him some credit.
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Ronaldo's two peak seasons :

13/14 - 1,14 G/90 & 1,52 G+A/90
14/15 - 1,19 G/90 & 1,63 G+A/90

Messi's two peak seasons:
11/12 - 1,25 G/90 & 1,81 G+A/90
12/13 - 1,32 G/90 & 1,70 G+A/90

Haaland for City so far:
22/23 - 1,67 G/90 & 1,97 G+A/90 (Sustainable? We'll find out soon enough)

Unless he breaks his legs, he will break their scoring records. If not this season, then sometime the next 10 seasons.

There we go @Sky1981. Statistics aren't really up to debate. We aren't talking about preferences.

Thank you Troylocker. Always the go-to-guy when it comes to football stats.
 
What's nice is that they don't really have much room for improvement results-wise.

Haaland is bloody brilliant when fit and he might just be what they need to go to an imaginary next level where,
it seems from this thread, that they'll win every match 15-0 and bathe in the sun with unicorns around them...

But they're not going to suddenly get 105, 110 points just because they'll field an exceptional striker instead of one of their technical midgets up front.

They'll win the games they usually win most likely, they'll drop points when the pressure is on, and well, they'll probably win another league or finish second and nobody will give a toss about them.

....

A bit stupid quoting yourself, but I vaguely remembered posting something about them signing Haaland as it broke out,
And I was wondering whether I was one of those who thought he'd be shit... genuinely couldn't remember in the slightest what I tough of him.

So while I seem to be on the side of the fence who was right regarding his brilliance, and my ego is patting itself on the back...

I do wonder about my train of thought regarding City's room for improvement with Haaland.

Could an exceptional striker, if fit, take them from ~97 points to over a 100?
Can they actually win, say, 33 of their PL games, or even 34?

If him being there makes it easier for City to win the absolute majority of their games (i.e leading 3-0 still in the first half instead of only deciding the game later in the second half, thus enabling them to reserve more energy as the season wears on),

Will it make it more plausible for them to perform better at one of those challengeing games, away to Pool, Chelsea, Spurs for that matter?

I'll hazard a guess saying they probably won't better their 100 points record.
 
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There we go @Sky1981. Statistics aren't really up to debate. We aren't talking about preferences.

Thank you Troylocker. Always the go-to-guy when it comes to football stats.


You made 2 mistakes:

1- Lumping prime Messi and prime Ronaldo in one conversation as if they're equal when they're not. Messi was simply a much better scorer at his peak. His goals/90 mins dwarfed Ronaldo's.

2- Claiming that Haaland isn't as good a scorer as Ronaldo when - again - the numbers indicate that he had a better scoring average than any version of Ronaldo. As a result of having that pointed out to you, you're digressing, discussing "variety of goals".

I'd say this is the bollocks part. Not the stat.

You're making it sounds as if it's fecking Fillipo Inzaghi vs. Leo Messi

Ronaldo is the closest competition to Messi in modern times, saying htey don't even belong in one conversation is bollocks.