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Awful challenge by McVay.

Really hope the Boys do them.
 
Doesn’t matter if you’re playing against a modern pass-happy spread or a 70’s Big 8 or 10 offense, you cannot allow 250+ yards rushing and hope to win.
 
Offensive playcalling has been great by the rams but damn did mcvay feck up with his use of TOs
 
Feck jason garret with a rusty chainsaw :mad:

Go for two you cnut. You better get the ball back and score now :mad:
 
Game over

Excuse while i go hunt down jason garrett :mad:
 
giorno said:
Feck jason garret with a rusty chainsaw :mad:

Go for two you cnut. You better get the ball back and score now :mad:
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Garrett has had plenty of criticism during his tenure in Dallas, I'm not sure why you'd have a problem with him after that loss to the Rams though. Barely put a foot wrong.
 
adexkola said:
That's nonsense, how does that put us behind for years?
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Because Eli is long since finished, and the next two QB drafts are weak.

That referendum is contingent upon Darnold, Allen, or Rosen coming good in the long run, though. And assuming there was no chance of moving up for Baker...
 
Organic Potatoes said:
Because Eli is long since finished, and the next two QB drafts are weak.

That referendum is contingent upon Darnold, Allen, or Rosen coming good in the long run, though. And assuming there was no chance of moving up for Baker...
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Was about to say that.

I'm more interested in building up the OL. With the weapons we have, a great OL will allow for a stopgap/veteran at QB. Attracting suitors to NY won't be too hard.
 
adexkola said:
That's nonsense, how does that put us behind for years?
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I don't think it does. Having a 21 year old kid who should be a senior in college this year, smash the league in yards from scrimmage is now somehow considered a bad thing.

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/stats.html?mode=Y

The Giants could actually wind up with someone like Rosen for less than what the Cardinals gave up for him in the draft if Kingsbury thinks he's surplus to requirements when he goes after Murray.

 
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RooneyLegend said:
What did he do this time?
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Carl said:
Garrett has had plenty of criticism during his tenure in Dallas, I'm not sure why you'd have a problem with him after that loss to the Rams though. Barely put a foot wrong.
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It had to do with betting and me succumbing to the late hour and forgetting the line i bet was +7 and not +7.5

:lol:
 
Point is as amazing as Saquan is, picking a RB at #2 makes sense only if you don't need anything else. Giants could have traded that pick and end up with two of Nelson, Leonard and Derwin James. That would've been s much better haul than Saquan

Though imho they should have picked Lamar Jackson
 
giorno said:
And missed the playoffs. Same team had gone 16-0 the previous season
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That was just luck. The supposed GOAT to a scrub only changed 5 wins, and with some other good pieces missing.
 
giorno said:
Point is as amazing as Saquan is, picking a RB at #2 makes sense only if you don't need anything else. Giants could have traded that pick and end up with two of Nelson, Leonard and Derwin James. That would've been s much better haul than Saquan

Though imho they should have picked Lamar Jackson
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There's nothing they could've done that yielded a better result than what Barkley has delivered this year (1300 rushing yards + 91 receptions/700 receiving yards). At this point it's not really a debate about RB vs other positional needs. It's one of - whether the Giants were prepared to pass on a transformational player in the Marshall Faulk mold (12k+ career rushing yards + 700 receptions). Barkley in his first year has already equalled Faulk's best year ever over his decade plus, hall of fame career. That's not the sort of player you pass on because of some historical statistical debate about RBs v QBs or offensive lineman.
 
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Eboue is 100% correct by the way, I just like to shit on Brady
 
http://www.footballperspective.com/saquon-barkley-did-not-fix-the-2018-giants/

The biggest red herring, I think, comes in the terms of receiving yards. Barkley has 688 receiving yards, which sounds great until you realize that Barkley has 21% of Giants targets and 24% of Giants receptions, but only 17% of Giants receiving yards and 15% of Giants first downs. This isn’t a knock on Barkley as much as it is a knock on the position: for the most part, running backs don’t make a big contribution in the passing game, even when they have a lot of receptions.

Consider that Barkley had 113 targets. Of those:

  • 26 were incomplete passes;
  • 16 were third down receptions that did not pick up a first down;
  • 8 were first or second down receptions that gained negative or zero yards
That’s 50 of 113 targets that did not provide value, compared to 28 of 113 targets that gained a first down. Again, this isn’t much of a knock on Barkley the player: for a running back, it’s extremely difficult to provide significant value in the passing game.1 And in the modern NFL, there’s a very real cap as to the value a running back can provide in the running game, while passers are picking up first downs with relative ease. By comparison, Barkley has gained a first down on just 18% of all rushing plays.

Barkley looks like he may be the next great running back, but it’s not looking like he was a great choice with the #2 pick.
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I don't understand why crap teams don't just pick QB every year until they get a good one.
 
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