They should be moved to a different division. Having both Dolphins and Jets is a distinct advantage. Plus they are facing NFC East with Giants and Redskins plus a damaged Eagles.
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They should be moved to a different division. Having both Dolphins and Jets is a distinct advantage. Plus they are facing NFC East with Giants and Redskins plus a damaged Eagles.
So the Cowboys should be moved too
Is this the year of the Lions?
Hahahaha.. Yeah probably not but with U of M sucking one can hope there is some positive to their hard times.
Hahahaha.. Yeah probably not but with U of M sucking one can hope there is some positive to their hard times.
The Vikings are re-signing everyone Treadwell, Sherels and next year Bridgewater.
You could’ve picked a lot of examples to counter his ridiculous argument but this makes no sense tbh. The NFC East has delivered a SB champion in 3 of the last 12 seasons.
Not sure about how good this season will turn out, but there’s definitely been storylines so far that I didn’t even have as potentials on my radar pre-season, being:
Jackson - thought he’d improve, but the step up in his passing is colossal.
Allen - knew the Bills would be decent because of their D but didn’t expect Allen to progress as much as he has to be a key part of their start.
Trubisky - his regression is ridiculous. Didn’t expect that.
Browns - given the hype there was always a chance they’d blow it, but it’s Mayfield who’s surprised me - really looked out of sorts and don’t think it’s all down to the o-line.
Lions - where the hell did this come from?!
On the flip side, some story lines I’m not so surprised about:
Murray - I’m sure he will be a good QB in the league but the Mahomes comparisons were always a bit stupid. It just shows how great Mahomes actually is.
PI challenges - total unsurprised the overturn rate is basically nil.
Newton - his injury issues are quite chronic at this stage, I think it’ll be a bit like Luck where getting a full or even good chunk of a season from him at full fitness will be a challenge going forward.
Falcons - a lot of people had them down as contenders but never saw it tbh.
On a separate note, the injuries so far this season, I’m sure we say it every year but I’m also sure every year it just gets worse and worse.
Jackson - thought he’d improve, but the step up in his passing is colossal.
Allen - knew the Bills would be decent because of their D but didn’t expect Allen to progress as much as he has to be a key part of their start.
Trubisky - his regression is ridiculous. Didn’t expect that.
Browns - given the hype there was always a chance they’d blow it, but it’s Mayfield who’s surprised me - really looked out of sorts and don’t think it’s all down to the o-line.
Lions - where the hell did this come from?!
On the flip side, some story lines I’m not so surprised about:
Murray - I’m sure he will be a good QB in the league but the Mahomes comparisons were always a bit stupid. It just shows how great Mahomes actually is.
PI challenges - total unsurprised the overturn rate is basically nil.
Newton - his injury issues are quite chronic at this stage, I think it’ll be a bit like Luck where getting a full or even good chunk of a season from him at full fitness will be a challenge going forward.
Falcons - a lot of people had them down as contenders but never saw it tbh.
On a separate note, the injuries so far this season, I’m sure we say it every year but I’m also sure every year it just gets worse and worse.
To be honest I’d be in favor of a change up of divisions. Not necessarily to move the Patriots out, but to make things more regionally accurate.
Move Miami to the AFC South.
Move Indianapolis to AFC North.
Move Baltimore to AFC East.
By default that makes the East more competitive too.
Trubisky didn't dramatically regressed, if you look at his DVOA he was 19th last season and is currently 23rd, if you take into account the fact that defenses didn't really know what to expect from a scheme and ability stanpoint it's a normal trajectory for a below average QB.
On the three games so far
1) Pats
2)Chiefs
3)Packers
4) Cowboys
5) Rams
6)Ravens
These are the best 6 teams imo and there is a big gap after these. AFC has the two best teams but NFC is much deeper overall
1) Pats
2)Chiefs
3)Packers
4) Cowboys
5) Rams
6)Ravens
These are the best 6 teams imo and there is a big gap after these. AFC has the two best teams but NFC is much deeper overall
How can the Packers be in that group when they aren't better than the Vikings?
They beat the Vikings didn't they?
Maybe if Cousins wasn't QB the Vikings would be better.
Barely, in a game where the vikings dominated 3 out of 4 quarters and the refs took weird decisions. To put the Packers third and say that there is a big gap after these teams is far from reality.
You dominated a lot of that game and still couldn't win, that's exactly the problem with the Vikings. You can't run the ball 90% of the times and expect to go all the way in today's NFL. Whether Zimmer should trust Cousins or not is another question though..
The NFC North is wide open though and no way the Packers are #3 indeed. Matt LaFleur is just an awful HC, Rodgers seems to hate him already and the Packers have been carried by their surprisingly good D so far.
For me, it's:
1) Chiefs
2) Patriots
3) Rams
4) Ravens
5) Saints
6) Cowboys
Followed by all the NFC North teams, probably, in whatever order you'd have them.
The point wasn't to put the Vikings in a good light but wonder how the Packers can be that high and with a big gap. As long as Cousins is the QB, the Vikings will choke in big games.
Agreed on both. The Packers have been far from impressive. Rodgers has 9 TDs in his last 9 games which is already quite a big sample size. He's almost become too risk averse at this point (and his long TD throw last week unsurprisingly came on a free play).
Rodgers is no longer the NFLs shining talented QB star, Mahomes has truly taken that mantle.
We’d be singing a different song if Rodgers was at KC and Mahomes was stuck with the infuriating ineptitude of LaFleur though.
Rodgers already ran off one of the greatest offensive coaching minds of this generation out of pure spite, he doesnt get to complain that the replacement isnt as good.
Can anyone shed some light on why Rodgers family hates him?
I know he's an asshole but did anything happen?
I know he's an asshole but did anything happen?
Probably the State Farm commercials.
It’s a fair point for sure. But we set different standards for different QBs.
You always hear Brady is only good because of the system.
We don’t hear that Mahomes is only good because of the system.
We always hear Rodgers sucks because of the system.
We don’t hear about Brees and what he might be like in another system.
When do we talk about Rivers and what he might do under Reid? Or if Mariota hadn’t been surrounded by crap coaches and changes his entire career?
I’m not saying you can’t consider systems, coaches etc. I’m just saying that it’s a “what if” criteria which is applied inconsistently to various QBs in different ways.
No doubt Rodgers would be better and Mahomes worse if they switched teams. But by how much? How do we know how each might do? We don’t. That’s why sometimes you just have to take a step back and decide on what you see with consideration to all those factors (there are indeed many to factor in) but not be blinded by them.
Anyway, my comment was a little in spite of course. I firmly believe and said it last year too that Mahomes has taken things to another level. Forget the stats and coaches, just watch him. The way he combines athleticism with wits, his accuracy yet arm strength. His ability to read and play from the pocket yet scramble. I think it’s another level. When things g wrong he improvises. When he’s in a tough spot he can come back. When he’s made mistakes be bounces back. The way he can suddenly turn it on and torch teams to take games away in as little as a quarter. And he’s still so young too. Honestly it’s so early in his career that I’m probably aboard the express hype train so fast but genuinely at least since I’ve watched the NFL I haven’t seen anything like it even compared to players like Brady, Manning or Rodgers at their best.
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It's not really that his family hates him, there is a mutual issue with some of them and it's supposed to be work related.
He ran off Mike McCarthy and was rude to Samkon Gado.
Several years ago, his brother was on a reality show called The Bachelorette and shed some light on it. Iirc, his family thought he changed after he became famous while Aaron thought his family was trying to get famous off his name.
https://people.com/sports/olivia-munn-talks-aaron-rodgers-family-rift/
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On a side note has anyone received their Spurs NFL tickets yet?
They have played 3 of the best defences in the league and have a new coach so I can only see them getting better . I don't rate the Vikings at all with cousins at the helm
Which is the point, they aren't better than the Vikings. If you watched them play there is no way you saw a gap between them.
Cousins plays for the Vikings though - which is why there's a clear gap.
And yet on the field there were no gaps, it's actually not a good thing for the Packers.
Melvin Gordon returns to the Chargers today. Won’t play this week but should be alright for Week 5.
Fecking hell, thought Ekeler would be good for me thru week 8 at least. Still prolly be RB2 worthy, but he was genuinely great while Gordon was out. Hope Gordon comes back fat and outta shape.
Such a weak holdout. What did that even accomplish?
Such a weak holdout. What did that even accomplish?
Got to skip all of preseason and a few weeks to get less mileage and still counts as a year towards becoming a free agent. He can also point to the Chargers being 1-2 when he came back (likely 2-2 by the time he plays since they have the Dolphins next and that will be a massacre) as proof of his importance to the team, especially if they get a wildcard slot like last year.Fecking hell, thought Ekeler would be good for me thru week 8 at least. Still prolly be RB2 worthy, but he was genuinely great while Gordon was out. Hope Gordon comes back fat and outta shape.
Such a weak holdout. What did that even accomplish?
Why are Pats signing Cody Kessler?
Let's be real, the entire point of his holdout was to get a new contract. He had until Nov 29 to report to accrue a year of service. That he's caved much earlier shows how little leverage he actually had. Chargers were never going to pay him top 3 RB dough and no other team would offer what the Chargers were demanding for a trade. Little chance he sees Zeke/Gurley/Bell type payday even when he becomes a free agent for that matter (he's seeking $13 million plus and Chargers were supposedly offering $10 million). To add salt to the wound, he's accrued over $1 million in fines (in addition to the $900k+ lost in game checks). Typically teams will waive that for players returning from a holdout, but the Chargers are known to be one of the rare teams who don't.
As for the Chargers being 1-2, not sure having Gordon would have made much difference. Ekeler and Jackson have filled in nicely during his absence. Perhaps the Chargers would have run the ball a little more with Gordon, but I contend not having Derwin James as more of a reason for our slow start.
That was the primary reason and that obviously was a failure. But he still made it more likely he hits free agency, saved some mileage/avoided injury and the money he's lost can be made back in one year if he gets a nice contract even if he gets a bit under the 13m he's asking for. Rest will depend on how he performs, he has another year like last year with over 5 YPC and I reckon some team will overpay in free agency.
On the 1-2 thing, I'm not saying that his absence is the reason why you started poorly, just that he and his agent will no doubt claim it is.
The Chargers would be 2-1 with Gordon, at least. Ekeler literally fumbled the ball at the Lions 1-yard line in Week 2 - I believe Gordon runs that in and the Chargers probably never look back from that moment on.
I actually think Gordon is as good a back as Gurley is. He was on pace for 2,000 scrimmage yards and 20+ TDs last season in a 12-game sample size. I think no one bar Gurley has more scrimmage yards since he came into the league in 2015.
I actually think Gordon is as good a back as Gurley is. He was on pace for 2,000 scrimmage yards and 20+ TDs last season in a 12-game sample size. I think no one bar Gurley has more scrimmage yards since he came into the league in 2015.
Anyone?
Keenan Allen is all of us who own Gordon in fantasy right now