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I literally wrote he has questions himself … I don’t have faith in him either.

You did and yet it's still a mindboggling post to even mention yet put the questions bit in. You have to basically leave it at Burrow, the only one that hasn't choked it against KC at least one time. Baltimore gave Lamar a HOF back who nearly had 2k rushing yards at age 30 and they still couldn't get past the Bills let alone the Chiefs.
 
The modern day story of an overnight gloryhunting story when Chelsea bought their way to two instant titles off an oligarch's money. City fans today were the Chelsea fans of a decade before.

Thought so. Cool shit. That’s definitely not what I was referring to when I mentioned City. You’ve predictably misunderstood the entire post.
 
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You did and yet it's still a mindboggling post to even mention yet put the questions bit in. You have to basically leave it at Burrow, the only one that hasn't choked it against KC at least one time. Baltimore gave Lamar a HOF back who nearly had 2k rushing yards at age 30 and they still couldn't get past the Bills let alone the Chiefs.
Slim margins in playoffs. Win or loss, that particular game doesn’t make Lamar or Allen more/less suited to beat Mahomes. Until they’ve done it, both sadly will have questions marks hanging above them, and probably rightly so.
 
I will say in defense of some of these QBs not yet topping the mountain, I can recall people saying the same thing for Elway, Favre, P.Manning, and Young. It can happen. But for every one of those guys that finally tasted the title there are the likes of Fouts, Kelly, Marino, and Tarkenton.
 
Purely in terms of ownership Jerry is just a charismatic Daniel Snyder. I emphasize the ownership part because for all his faults Jones seems like a decent guy whereas Snyder from everything you read seemed to be a horrible human being.
 
Purely in terms of ownership Jerry is just a charismatic Daniel Snyder. I emphasize the ownership part because for all his faults Jones seems like a decent guy whereas Snyder from everything you read seemed to be a horrible human being.
Daniel Snyder's name regularly comes up in discussions as the worst owner in the NFL. In fact, that's exactly what Paul Tagliabue said he was. And while nobody thinks that lizard Jerry Jones is a decent human being, he did win 3 Super Bowls as owner of the Cowboys. You can't really compare the two.
 
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Daniel Jones' name regularly comes up in discussions as the worst owner in the NFL. In fact, that's exactly what Paul Tagliabue said he was. And while nobody thinks that lizard Jerry Jones is a decent human being, he did win 3 Super Bowls as owner of the Cowboys. You can't really compare the two.
Jerry's been the owner of "America's team" for 35 years. All his success was in the first 6-7 years with the help of Jimmy Johnson or Jimmy Johnson's players. Since going it alone he has won nothing. He's talked a lot about what he's going to do, but for 20 years or more he's hired "yes men" who would basically toe the line. For the last 25 years he's been a rotten owner.

Compared with Dan Snyder, Jerry is a decent guy. The bar is pretty low though.
 
It's interesting that the AFC has a lot of the star QB's and the NFC better teams generally are well oiled machines with good not great QB's - Eagles, Vikings, Lions, 49ers (last year).

Chiefs are probably the only team that has both.
 
It's interesting that the AFC has a lot of the star QB's and the NFC better teams generally are well oiled machines with good not great QB's - Eagles, Vikings, Lions, 49ers (last year).

Chiefs are probably the only team that has both.
Ravens have 9 Pro Bowlers, they choked big time against Bills but their offense is probably the best in the AFC. The defense isnt shabby either as they lead the league after the bye week (overall iirc the Eagles have the best defense)

KC is just following the Pats playbook, underpay a generational QB, build a great defense from that money and let him work with what they give him, take Mahomes out of that team and replace him with, idk, Stroud or Bo Nix, and they will struggle to get 10 wins, so idk how well oiled their machine is. Heck, even with Mahomes, all of the games they won in regular season but one were by 1 score. As good as Reid and Spag are, they were 1-4 in playoff games prior to Mahomes, hes the difference maker.
 
As good as Reid and Spag are, they were 1-4 in playoff games prior to Mahomes, hes the difference maker.
I'd just add that Spagnuolo came to KC in 2019 after the then DC Bob Sutton was fired following the loss to the Patriots in the 2018 season's AFCCG. The Chiefs had a terrible defense and were ranked 31st in yards per game.
 


I need to find a way to get Korean commentary for the Super Bowl. fecking awesome :lol:
 
I'd just add that Spagnuolo came to KC in 2019 after the then DC Bob Sutton was fired following the loss to the Patriots in the 2018 season's AFCCG. The Chiefs had a terrible defense and were ranked 31st in yards per game.
Fair, not Spag then. I didn't follow you lot closely enough back then to remember.

One thing I'd say though is your special team is pretty damn good even if they don't top the league in stats. Butker is very reliable in clutch moments and Remigio came up big in both playoff games with his KOff/Punt return.
 
Ravens have 9 Pro Bowlers, they choked big time against Bills but their offense is probably the best in the AFC. The defense isnt shabby either as they lead the league after the bye week (overall iirc the Eagles have the best defense)

KC is just following the Pats playbook, underpay a generational QB, build a great defense from that money and let him work with what they give him, take Mahomes out of that team and replace him with, idk, Stroud or Bo Nix, and they will struggle to get 10 wins, so idk how well oiled their machine is. Heck, even with Mahomes, all of the games they won in regular season but one were by 1 score. As good as Reid and Spag are, they were 1-4 in playoff games prior to Mahomes, hes the difference maker.

Bills need more credit for the game against the Ravens. Ok Andrews cost them with the fumble and the drop on the 2 pointer but they did well to keep King Henry off the field.

Unfortunate that Flowers was injured, but that's playoffs for you.
 
I've come to terms with Chiefs winning. The only thing I've still struggling with is how people act like it's all Mahomes and it's going to get even more insufferable.
 
:lol: damn man.

Chiefs are like City to me. Dunno any of their fans. Their success is mildly annoying, and I’d rather see a different team win, it’s too boring otherwise, but would definitely rather Chiefs than the Eagles.
Their fans are more akin to whiny holier than thou Liverpool fans. Be thankful you don’t know many. Philly fans are unnecessarily bitter like our noisy neighbors. I hope you reconsider your stance.
 
Fair, not Spag then. I didn't follow you lot closely enough back then to remember.

One thing I'd say though is your special team is pretty damn good even if they don't top the league in stats. Butker is very reliable in clutch moments and Remigio came up big in both playoff games with his KOff/Punt return.
Special teams were a real weakness back in 22 but thankfully we have found a guy in Remigio who does not fumble the initial punt/kick and returns it well. You'll notice that we are returning the kickoffs most of the time now because the coaching staff are confident we can get big gains from these. Also blocking FGs is now a real threat because of Justin Reid and Leo Chenal, though we only really attempt it seriously in the critical moments towards the end of the game (probably for fear of offside penalties),. Our ST coordinator Dave Toub has come a long way in these last few years and I wanted him out before the Eagles Super Bowl.

Only disappointment so far is the punting from near the half way line. Our new punter Araiza can't seem to land them in the 0-10 range and they often go for touchbacks. He's been great at long distance punts though and is probably an upgrade on Tommy Townsend.
 
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I've come to terms with Chiefs winning. The only thing I've still struggling with is how people act like it's all Mahomes and it's going to get even more insufferable.
It's not that it's all him. But he is the difference maker.
 
Nah, put any of the top quarterbacks in the league there and you'd be saying the same
Fair enough, but I couldn't disagree with you more strongly on that. He's the best to ever do it on clutch do or die moments. The Chiefs have won their last 17 one score games and that's mostly down to a Mahomes game winning drive, with a few exceptions this year like vs Broncos and Raiders.
 
Ravens have 9 Pro Bowlers, they choked big time against Bills but their offense is probably the best in the AFC. The defense isnt shabby either as they lead the league after the bye week (overall iirc the Eagles have the best defense)

KC is just following the Pats playbook, underpay a generational QB, build a great defense from that money and let him work with what they give him, take Mahomes out of that team and replace him with, idk, Stroud or Bo Nix, and they will struggle to get 10 wins, so idk how well oiled their machine is. Heck, even with Mahomes, all of the games they won in regular season but one were by 1 score. As good as Reid and Spag are, they were 1-4 in playoff games prior to Mahomes, hes the difference maker.
Don’t do my boy like that
 
Fair enough, but I couldn't disagree with you more strongly on that. He's the best to ever do it on clutch do or die moments. The Chiefs have won their last 17 one score games and that's mostly down to a Mahomes game winning drive, with a few exceptions this year like vs Broncos and Raiders.

Helps you make these drives when your tight end catches the football and makes gains after the catch, instead of fumbling it on one drive, and then dropping it in the end zone at the death.

would love to see Mahomes do as much with as little as Burrow or Allen. Maybe he can do a Brady and feck off to a trash organisation and do it there too?
 
Don’t do my boy like that
Wasn't a dig though, I picked 2 high potential rookies to make a point, you can throw Daniels in there if you like. Point is, the drop off will be sharp for KC even if you replace Mahomes with good QBs, we saw how far they went with Alex Smith throwing to prime Kelce and Tyreek Hill, 1 and done in playoffs.
 
I should have put money down on the SB pairing. Somehow this year it felt like you could see it coming from a mile away.

The fact though we have two teams in there who almost everybody hates seems fitting for the times we live in.
 
Wasn't a dig though, I picked 2 high potential rookies to make a point, you can throw Daniels in there if you like. Point is, the drop off will be sharp for KC even if you replace Mahomes with good QBs, we saw how far they went with Alex Smith throwing to prime Kelce and Tyreek Hill, 1 and done in playoffs.
You are forgiven
 
Fair enough, but I couldn't disagree with you more strongly on that. He's the best to ever do it on clutch do or die moments. The Chiefs have won their last 17 one score games and that's mostly down to a Mahomes game winning drive, with a few exceptions this year like vs Broncos and Raiders.
Excuse me
 
Eberflus is a cracking DC hire for the Cowboys. Especially given the lack of HC experience Schottenheimer has.